Oasis?? - Page 2

sage_chaozu · #16 08-03-2002, 12:17 AM

Actually, your characters are anime style, or at least the eyes and hair are, but thats beyond this subject.

Just because people try to make their work similar to yours because they envy you, doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop posting screen shots. It makes people lose interest in oasis, and like this person has stated, he thought it was dead. If your not going to at least post screen shots on your progress, you can at MOST just tell us a little what's going on. You don't have to be paranoid about it (and yes, you are paranoid if you think people steal your work and thats why your not posting it.). And if they steal your work? WHO CARES? I've had people submit my graphics to the server I work on and say they made them, but I don't let it get to me because I know that if they have to steal graphics then they just must be desperate.

Then again, though, this is you, you have a different way of thinking, but if you think that it's too risky to post a screen shot once or twice a week, then you shouldn't be making a playerworld in the first place unless it was top-secret when it started. Notice in the word "Playerworld" there is the word "player", which doesn't just mean it's made BY the players, it means it's made FOR the players.

royce · #17 08-03-2002, 01:11 AM

Koni, you have to understand that you were not the first person to make art like that. Yes it is wrong that some other people take your tiles and modify them or dont even modify them. But you have people learning the skills of dithering, and thats what all your graphics are, just dithering with shadowed colors.

konidias · #18 08-03-2002, 01:53 AM

I can't see how square eyes and spikey hair = anime. Anime is a japanese art form, and Oasis chars don't look like japanese anime at all in my honest opinion.

I'm not truely bothered by people copying my style. What bothers me is when they deny that they have done so. Like the graphic looks near identical and they will swear up and down they have never even seen my graphics or something. That is what gets me pissed.

I'm not showing screenshots not just because I don't want people copying stuff, it's because I don't want to show everything and then have nothing be a suprise. I could care less about pleasing the public by releasing screenshots. I only showed screenshots in the beginning because I wanted people to know what Oasis was going to be like, and look like.

Having to constantly give everyone eye candy is a chore. I know showing screenshots shows actual progress, but you're just going to have to trust me when I say that Oasis is progressing. This is what happens with things like this. People get impatient and demand stuff, and then they get low quality stuff in return.

Just look at 2k2 for example. People nagged and nagged for 2k2 to be released, they released it in alpha version, and then people got mad because of bugs. If I keep showing screenshots, people are just going to pick everything apart, and it also makes me look ****y or something (obviously to some people, you know who you are) Who think just because I'm showing stuff, that I'm doing it to get attention.

So with all that said, I'm still not going to show anything. Sorry guys, but when the playerworld is done, you will appreciate not having seen everything.

screen_name · #19 08-03-2002, 02:13 AM

i understand where koni is coming from

he is tired of people modding his gfx and saying they made them
and about the screenshots, agree again i do

perfect example he gave

Shadow Knight · #20 08-03-2002, 02:18 AM

evildred144: See recently I can now see where Koni comes from, Go look at this Thread This guy copied the old Tempest of Time tiles and since Godspeed has allowed Krynn to use the tiles it makes me upset. Why? Because the guy wont admit it even when i posted proof so i do have to agree with koni on this one. Since the tiles are being copied I will not be showing screenshots from krynn either.

konidias · #21 08-03-2002, 08:29 AM

FINALLY, people understand what I have been saying. I'm not paranoid, I'm observant.

I don't trust anyone except myself when it comes to the net. People that you have trusted for a year could turn around and screw you at the drop of a hat. That's just how the net is.

Kuza · #22 08-03-2002, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by konidias
FINALLY, people understand what I have been saying. I'm not paranoid, I'm observant.

I don't trust anyone except myself when it comes to the net. People that you have trusted for a year could turn around and screw you at the drop of a hat. That's just how the net is.

I beg to differ.

Just the other day, my friend over the net sent my ******ok Online through the mail, because my PC can't download it. I've knew him for about three years. I trust 'em.

There's people that know my passes and stuff, but I don't worry about it. You can find some of the nicest people on the net, but if you use the internet too much... well, you start losing your social skills. You've gotta find that equillibrium of trust in yourself, and others.

Okay, I'm done ranting for tonight. ^_^

James · #23 08-03-2002, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Kuza

I beg to differ.

Just the other day, my friend over the net sent my ******ok Online through the mail, because my PC can't download it. I've knew him for about three years. I trust 'em.

There's people that know my passes and stuff, but I don't worry about it. You can find some of the nicest people on the net, but if you use the internet too much... well, you start losing your social skills. You've gotta find that equillibrium of trust in yourself, and others.

Okay, I'm done ranting for tonight. ^_^

Too bad you won't be able to play for 3 months, blah.

AlexH · #24 08-03-2002, 01:28 PM

It's simple.
It's Konis player world, if he doesn't want to post screen shots or release information about it he won't.

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Originally posted by Kuza

I beg to differ.

Just the other day, my friend over the net sent my ******ok Online through the mail, because my PC can't download it. I've knew him for about three years. I trust 'em.

There's people that know my passes and stuff, but I don't worry about it. You can find some of the nicest people on the net, but if you use the internet too much... well, you start losing your social skills. You've gotta find that equillibrium of trust in yourself, and others.

Okay, I'm done ranting for tonight. ^_^

Which e-mail do you use because isn't Rag like 200+ mb?

Kuza · #25 08-03-2002, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by James

Too bad you won't be able to play for 3 months, blah.

So I heard... that's pretty cheap, eh? I was talking with him and he explained everything to me. That's pretty damn low of them to do.

James · #26 08-03-2002, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Kuza

So I heard... that's pretty cheap, eh? I was talking with him and he explained everything to me. That's pretty damn low of them to do.

Yeah, it's really dumb. They are *****s, the English/American servers are the ones that are going to bring in the money, not the Korean, it's not a smart move on their part.

Neglegence2002 · #27 08-03-2002, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow Knight
evildred144: See recently I can now see where Koni comes from, Go look at this Thread This guy copied the old Tempest of Time tiles and since Godspeed has allowed Krynn to use the tiles it makes me upset. Why? Because the guy wont admit it even when i posted proof so i do have to agree with koni on this one. Since the tiles are being copied I will not be showing screenshots from krynn either.

lol, its so funny how you just keep going with this bullshit, everybody tells me the fourms are ****in crap, but keep on disgreeing becasue i like how people post interesting threads about certain things. Now i understand how some people opperate on these fourms. fu evildred *****, go to hell kthxbye

IAMNOTAFREAK · #28 08-04-2002, 10:49 AM

yay, i'm one of those guys that copied from a pic of koni's!
i used it to eventually get to my first version of my characters, and yes, i asked permission to use them to base mine from and was denied so i had to change them and they sucked, so i made new ones...
and some of my new ones have brown vests with green undershirts, so if i'm the guy he's referring to i just want to say that i used the predefined paint rgb's or made my own...k...
anyway, i miss oasis screens and stuff, it looks like it's gonna be great!

Graal2001_LAT · #29 08-04-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by James

Too bad you won't be able to play for 3 months, blah.

Yes I was truely disappointed.

MalakSylv · #30 08-04-2002, 09:26 PM

i'm not sure why it is i've been so mean to konidias in the past, when it's obvious he's one of the few intelligent people left in graal. and one with talent, as well.

kon, take your time with oasis. i'll be waiting eagerly to play a playerworld that is so similar to the ones i wish were available.