Extremist or offensive Guild names..

[Milkdude99]

I am by no means a bigot , it seems you ppl have missed the point entirely... but all this ia a mute point and could go on forever , this is a Game with rules and you follow the rules as laid out by the Admins of the Game , no matter whether you agree or not; to play the Game you have to follow them.As I stated already , this is no place to make an issue or mute points of your beliefs, just play the game. Offensive or illegal Guild names will be up to the Admins to what is allowed or not , this is the way it is setup on the Game and what you agreed to when you signed up for an account , so to bicker with an Admin over a name for your Guild would get you nowhere and pointless. Just enjoy the Game as it is set up and don't try to nit pick it to death..

It is also illegal to put "I am going to commit sucide! " Or I will rape you, or other nonsense like this and this comes from Stefan , the rules we enforce like I said are the Guide lines set by Graal not us. The point of the Game is to have FUN not make some stupid polital soapbox out of it . Graal setup the Game to please "the Majority " because it is impossible to please everyone, so to call me a bigot is also calling Graal a bigot because it is Graal that sets the rules. You know you guys can just nitpick this to death and try to make it impossible to run or play the Game , but what you still don't sem to realize is "this is the rules your agreed to when you signed up so why don't you guys just play it and quit the nonsense?

[Milkdude99]

And if I am so narrow minded why would I post it here?Why would I even bother?

[Mman]

Originally posted by supersaiyanja
SATANISM IS NOT A CULT
it IS a religion moon god, i dont care if you like it or not.
it should be allowed, if not, then i dont EVER want to see a guild with the name holy or heaven, or anything like that in their names

this is FoamyBoa incase you didnt know

moon god, you are the most opinionated person i have ever talked too, you wont allow anything just because you think its evil, or extremist. you didnt even bother finding anything out about satanists, you just said no, i dont like it, so it cant be here.

you also said that it doesnt matter because it is a minority, and you only care about pleasing the majority peoples.
why dont you just say "NO BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE A MINORITY, AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE OFFENDED BY THEM PLAYING"

dont try saying its different, because its not, and you know it.

I agree, just because you are offended doesn't mean everyone will be. I'm sure there is a large majority that wouldn't give a ****.

[Mman]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I am by no means a bigot , it seems you ppl have missed the point entirely... but all this ia a mute point and could go on forever , this is a Game with rules and you follow the rules as laid out by the Admins of the Game , no matter whether you agree or not; to play the Game you have to follow them.As I stated already , this is no place to make an issue or mute points of your beliefs, just play the game. Offensive or illegal Guild names will be up to the Admins to what is allowed or not , this is the way it is setup on the Game and what you agreed to when you signed up for an account , so to bicker with an Admin over a name for your Guild would get you nowhere and pointless. Just enjoy the Game as it is set up and don't try to nit pick it to death..

It is also illegal to put "I am going to commit sucide! " Or I will rape you, or other nonsense like this and this comes from Stefan , the rules we enforce like I said are the Guide lines set by Graal not us. The point of the Game is to have FUN not make some stupid polital soapbox out of it . Graal setup the Game to please "the Majority " because it is impossible to please everyone, so to call me a bigot is also calling Graal a bigot because it is Graal that sets the rules. You know you guys can just nitpick this to death and try to make it impossible to run or play the Game , but what you still don't sem to realize is "this is the rules your agreed to when you signed up so why don't you guys just play it and quit the nonsense?

In that case, Graal is a bigot, and so is anyone who agrees w/ the rules

[supersaiyanja]

the only people ive talked to that have a problem with a guild using that name are you and moon goddess, which makes you the minority.
so therefor, you must allow this as the majority of players so far has no problem with it.

how can satanism be a minority when millions of people are members of that RELIGION?

moon god, i say you are opinionated because you outright attacked satanism calling it extremist, and a cult.

you never even bothered finiding anything out about it.

[LOA--Paul]

Originally posted by Milkdude99
this Game is not a democracy but a game run by Graal and its rules , you follow them or you don't play; its that simple...

The rule against non offensive things? Everything on Graal is opffensiveto at leastone person or group. What about the guild JF, you need to go out on them too. What about the church in Graal City on classic, must it be removed just because someone found it offensive? This reminds me of the South Park Episode where evryone was offended by Christmas, and soon the children's play consisted of them twirling in black shirts saying "HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, EVERYBODY HAPPY"

[Necronut]

I don't really think you are understanding what we are saying either MG. We are also trying to prove a point.
you may think its an extremist group or a cult but its NOT it is a recognized Religion. Maybe not the religion I like but it is a religion. and as I stated before and Im pretty sure everyone else that agrees with it. Are you gonna refuse a guild with the name Minority just cause its called Minority? No I don't think so. and don't say you would cause you know you would be lying.
I don't claim to be perfect or not a part of a Minorty even though Im most likely not. and I may Be catholic but I dont put anyone down for there religion. thats like me saying to a jewish person that practices the religion that they have the wrong religion. It may be just a game but some ppl try to make it fun by making varios different guilds with various different names. take the guild NOOBS for instance us oldbies on Npulse call ppl that use NPCs nOObs does that mean we are making fun of them no. and by calling them nOObs we are actually trying to point out to them that they shouldn't even use NPCs in a fight but thats off subject still the same they are considered a Minority though as the game goes. just something to make you think.

[Milkdude99]

The point is , this is a Game NOT a arena for politcal or religious beliefs of any kind , I would no more allow a Satianist Guild anymore than I would allow a Holy God guild why? Because it has NO PLACE on the game for this , kids do not get on here to be "preached at " by someone on their beliefs nor to listen to any political opinions or views.. You guys fail to realize , Graal is in your home and others do NOT have the right to intrude on your privacy, no more than if they were on your doorstep trying to get in.... So Graal keeps everything "netural" in this respect and does not takes sides with any of it nor allow it to be on the Game because of that fact. It is not because I am for or against it because it is up to you what you believe in on Religion or politics and not appropriate in any form on the Game , this is how is must be to remain netural in these matters , in other words Off the Game..This Game is Fantasy Not reality so just keep the reality off the game... and just have fun for crying out loud sheesh

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by supersaiyanja
SATANISM IS NOT A CULT
it IS a religion moon god, i dont care if you like it or not.
it should be allowed, if not, then i dont EVER want to see a guild with the name holy or heaven, or anything like that in their names

this is FoamyBoa incase you didnt know

moon god, you are the most opinionated person i have ever talked too, you wont allow anything just because you think its evil, or extremist. you didnt even bother finding anything out about satanists, you just said no, i dont like it, so it cant be here.

you also said that it doesnt matter because it is a minority, and you only care about pleasing the majority peoples.
why dont you just say "NO BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE A MINORITY, AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE OFFENDED BY THEM PLAYING"

dont try saying its different, because its not, and you know it.

Foamy if you had bothered to look on the Npulse site you would know how absurd this statement is ..... My Granddaughter is half black and her pic is on a mouse over the pic of me... Her or anyone else's color to me makes no differance to me at all.....

[AlkarenHyralt]

What may not be offensive to you may be offensive to someone else.

BEsides it's the Guild Admin's decesion.

[Mman]

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
What may not be offensive to you may be offensive to someone else.

BEsides it's the Guild Admin's decesion.

Not many people would be, as shown in this quote

the only people ive talked to that have a problem with a guild using that name are you and moon goddess, which makes you the minority.
so therefor, you must allow this as the majority of players so far has no problem with it.

Evidently most players don't really care. Anyone who is not mature enough to see a (satanic) tag and not be offended by it is not mature enough to play Graal. Offending people is no excuse to prohibit guilds from having certain names. I believe censorship as a whole is stupid, I can't believe people go to such extremes to avoid "offending" people.

[Necronut]

MG you need to open your eyes. The Majorty of the players of the game are ok with the damn guild's name and I have seen 2 ppl that has anything wrong with it and that is you and your wife.
you say you care about the Majority of the players but in actuallity you are puttiong out a double standard by not going with the majority and going with the minority opinions. just let the guild become official. after all if ppl can't be mature enough to understand that its just a game then why the hell are they playing the game?

[Necronut]

the following post is actually from supersaiyanja(FoamyBoa) since he can't post here for some reason.
Moon God, you need to read my posts a little better.
I did not say you are racist, I said you are opinionated (not the same thing).
What I said about not letting black people play was an example of what you are doing.

Not letting black people play is the same as not letting a name like satanic be an official guild name.

The only reason you wont let this be official, is because YOU don't like it.

The rules for Graal 2001 say no OFFENSIVE names. from everyone else's
reactions to all of this, id say the only person getting offended is you.

You don't know a damn thing about Satanists...

For you too say it is a cult, or it is extremist, is just you showing how much of a bigot you are.

Stop saying that Graal is no place for this kind of argument.
because as long as things like this continue too happen, it will be.

FoamyBoa

[Mman]

Originally posted by Necronut
Not letting black people play is the same as not letting a name like satanic be an official guild name.

No, it is the same thing as not letting a guild called Blacks be official. This is just as low however, and I still consider him a bigot from all this, him and everyone else who makes the rules on Graal. He was wrong and he should know it by now.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Mman


No, it is the same thing as not letting a guild called Blacks be official. This is just as low however, and I still consider him a bigot from all this, him and everyone else who makes the rules on Graal. He was wrong and he should know it by now.

Define "bigot"