Thread for Nations on Classic - Page 2

Minoc · #1 05-25-2002, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by BBflat

Gah. How many times does it have to be stated you can't mess with AP?

I used the Gaia Shot =\

Tyhm · #2 05-26-2002, 02:43 AM

Which is funny in an annoying sort of way, as I'm certain you weren't invited to test my stuff. :grrr:

Minoc · #3 05-26-2002, 03:03 AM

=\ I didn't know it was wrong, I just added all NPCs.
But now it's gone and I deleted it from the other GPs I showed that =\

DarkCloud_PK · #4 05-26-2002, 11:19 PM

Hmm, I see we have hats there now...
Perhaps we could use these hats to show seniority.
Example, you get "blank" hat after being in the Nation for 12 hours, and this one for 24, and only the edler gets this hat.
That way we could use hats for something other than a decoration(unless it's already that way).

Wow, that idea was half-asked.
I'll think of something better later.

darkriders_p2p · #5 05-26-2002, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by DarkCloud_PK
Hmm, I see we have hats there now...
Perhaps we could use these hats to show seniority.
Example, you get "blank" hat after being in the Nation for 12 hours, and this one for 24, and only the edler gets this hat.
That way we could use hats for something other than a decoration(unless it's already that way).

Wow, that idea was half-asked.
I'll think of something better later.

OR u can give hats away for hours, like 1000 hours you get all the hats, because I now got 1000 hours :P

But really, Staff having hats is sad, release it for everyone

albus777 · #6 05-26-2002, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by darkriders_p2p

OR u can give hats away for hours, like 1000 hours you get all the hats, because I now got 1000 hours :P

But really, Staff having hats is sad, release it for everyone

WAIT FOR NATIONS

Tyhm · #7 05-27-2002, 05:27 AM

Been thinking about that.

Any staffers who have the hats and are not on the testing squad will be summarily executed for crimes against me. And yes Minoc, I am looking at you.

DarkCloud_PK · #8 05-27-2002, 07:57 AM

Hopefully those executions will be public and I won't be executed

Anyway, are we stuck with the usual hats or can Classic procude their own? I'd hate to see Babord go with just a monocle.

Tyhm · #9 05-27-2002, 07:59 AM

I guess we can make our own, but I mean, what is a thief hat? They don't really have hats...they're thieves...

DarkCloud_PK · #10 05-27-2002, 08:07 AM

...could give them some Pirate Hats and Eye Patches, Pirates are Theives in a way, and we have Lord Chimp in Babord with all his Pirates, fits the theme.
Bandana could work as well.

Minoc · #11 05-27-2002, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
Been thinking about that.

Any staffers who have the hats and are not on the testing squad will be summarily executed for crimes against me. And yes Minoc, I am looking at you.

I never had the hats XD

Tyhm · #12 05-27-2002, 01:37 PM

M'kay, I guess Pirate and Thieves works better than Pirates and Lizardons.

Vikings too?

And what do I give the Dragoons, besides the two Dragoon Helmets?

Spanko · #13 05-27-2002, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
M'kay, I guess Pirate and Thieves works better than Pirates and Lizardons.

Vikings too?

And what do I give the Dragoons, besides the two Dragoon Helmets?

If you're going for Vikings you should (let someone) make one of those horned helmets.
Dragoons is harder to think of though. :/

DarkCloud_PK · #14 05-27-2002, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
M'kay, I guess Pirate and Thieves works better than Pirates and Lizardons.

Vikings too?

And what do I give the Dragoons, besides the two Dragoon Helmets?

I'll go through there and give it a look.
Might as well check out the other Nation's hats as well, as long as I'm there.

Tyhm · #15 05-27-2002, 10:42 PM

There are two viking hats, I currently have it assigned to Lizardon...
the Dragoons only have the two Dragoon helmets and the purple hair wings Saria made...
the Vampires just have sunglasses, because I don't think Vampires really wear hats...the Thieves now have all the pirate hats and the monocle....
the Graal Nation has all the helmets, the Ninji have all the Samurai recolors, but I don't think I can really break those up...

DarkCloud_PK · #16 05-28-2002, 06:11 AM

I'll try making a Dragoon hat from the Dragoon head(head23.png) over the next few days. I'll have to resize it so it fits on most heads though. Then you could just make 5-6 recolors of it.

DarkCloud_PK · #17 05-29-2002, 09:44 AM

Meh, whenever I try coloring it back in by hand, it comes out too low quality.
Tried about 5 times.
Sorry, Tyhm.

Tyhm · #18 05-29-2002, 10:42 AM

Oh well, didn't really want to make Classic hats anyway.

I almost want to give them the winged knight helmet, but I just know that'd get confusing...

Terazel Tenjin · #19 05-29-2002, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
Oh well, didn't really want to make Classic hats anyway.

I almost want to give them the winged knight helmet, but I just know that'd get confusing...

Don't focus on hats for Classic. It doesn't even look all that good on the bodies on Classic. If anything, should make it so that permaclothes saves hats, too, or have another permaclothes NPC that's for hats.

Tyhm · #20 05-30-2002, 03:56 AM

Feh, just one more reason for the dragoons and vampires to complain, plus I'd have to double up my nation/hourchecking code in the permaclothes and in the hat setters so you can't save all the hats from another nation, then quit and keep using them...

kevy · #21 05-31-2002, 08:49 AM

woah, i just read threw this whole topic, and am very cornfused...

Tyhm · #22 06-06-2002, 11:48 AM

Zorbis, Thieves and Vampires remain underpowered...no ideas...

DarkCloud_PK · #23 06-06-2002, 10:07 PM

I'll be sending you some new ideas later.

magicbud3344 · #24 06-07-2002, 03:20 PM

i would love to be a vampire, and maybe have the ability to drain the hearts of others and add on to your hearts,and you could jump of walls and run on walls ^-^

DarkCloud_PK · #25 06-08-2002, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by magicbud3344
i would love to be a vampire, and maybe have the ability to drain the hearts of others and add on to your hearts,and you could jump of walls and run on walls ^-^

They can already heal by biting others for hearts.
Jump and run on walls?
No.

Terazel Tenjin · #26 06-09-2002, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted bymagicbud3344
i would love to be a vampire, and maybe have the ability to drain the hearts of others and add on to your hearts,and you could jump of walls and run on walls ^-^

Infected bite should be implanted...

Vampire speed is pretty close to jumping off of and running on walls. Graal's 2D, ya know.

BLOOD_kane · #27 06-18-2002, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
1) Not quite. If I could figure out guildtag scripting maybe, but since Classic has no NPCServ probably not.
2) Zorbi (Ceres) Nation will exist. There are 10 in all.
3) Yup.
Graal Nation - Shield (defends against all attacks from that direction) - Spin 2 (throw your sword afterwards) - 90 AP Min
Ninji Nation - Counter (immediately attack anyone who hits you with their sword), Parry (deflect sword blows outside spar rooms) - 80 AP Min
Ceres/Zorbi - Whirlpool (widerange water attack) - Regen in water - 70 AP Min
Lunaris - Lunaris Blast (spaceships drop bombs on the map) - Revive where you died - 60 AP Min
Rag narok - Dragoon Jump (rushing sword attack) - Strafe (constantly face your opponent) - 50 AP Min (Rag narok was a PKer. ^_^)
Gaia - Something to do with turning arrows into items, I think... - deflect arrows - 40 AP Min (might make it 50 Max and give them a PK weapon)
Sardon - Osmosis (steal MP from players) - 2x MP Regen - 30 AP Min (might make it 40 max and/or swap with Gaia)Babord - Steal (knock a player's gelats all over the place) - AntiSteal - 30 AP Max
Vampire - Bite (steal a player's heart) - Vampspeed (dash across a level in a second, inside or at night) - 20 AP Max
Lizardon - Baddy Form - Other baddies won't attack - 10 AP Max

Feedback is appreciated. Cries of "THAT'S STUPID!" will be ignored - I'm primarily concerned with the balance issues. Goes to figure the low AP races would need better PK Weapons since they can't heal...
There's gonna be castles configured for Nation battles and stuff, so it'll be neat, you'll see.

Or have one nation thats a combo of all called "Uber Cashmonies Tyhm Delux"....or not

DarkCloud_PK · #28 06-20-2002, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by BLOOD_kane

Or have one nation thats a combo of all called "Uber Cashmonies Tyhm Delux"....or not

Your Chris Farley sig scares the hell out of me.

mikepg · #29 06-20-2002, 11:49 AM

You guys are actually gonna make a nation called Rag narok? Boy, that's original.

It's also an online game btw.

magicbud3344 · #30 06-20-2002, 02:18 PM

NINJAS >:[
where is this vampire nation at?

Tyhm · #31 06-20-2002, 08:34 PM

It was a Graalian first (Rag narok Draconis of Avalon - yeah, it censors if I take out the space), and a mythological context before that.

I could call it the Nation of Avalon, but that lacks the same punch.

The Ventrue people are working on making a Vampire Island, on which they hope the castle will be placed. I guess if it's good enough, it'll go there.

DarkCloud_PK · #32 06-20-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
It was a Graalian first (Rag narok Draconis of Avalon - yeah, it censors if I take out the space), and a mythological context before that.

I could call it the Nation of Avalon, but that lacks the same punch.

The Ventrue people are working on making a Vampire Island, on which they hope the castle will be placed. I guess if it's good enough, it'll go there.

Yeah, I heard a lot about Vamp Island, sounds like it's going to take a lot of time and skill to make from what I am told. Hopefully they have both, as the ideas they have sound pretty good.

kevy · #33 06-20-2002, 10:41 PM

maybe theives could cloak for a short period of time?

kevy · #34 06-20-2002, 10:42 PM

or would that not work, from that anti-invisble hack thing?

Terazel Tenjin · #35 06-21-2002, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
It was a Graalian first (Rag narok Draconis of Avalon - yeah, it censors if I take out the space), and a mythological context before that.

I could call it the Nation of Avalon, but that lacks the same punch.

The Ventrue people are working on making a Vampire Island, on which they hope the castle will be placed. I guess if it's good enough, it'll go there.

We all know what R@gnarok means from Norse mythology...maybe that isn't the BEST name for the nation. Why not call it Avalon Dragoons or something, like Graal Knights?

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Originally posted by DarkCloud_PK
Yeah, I heard a lot about Vamp Island, sounds like it's going to take a lot of time and skill to make from what I am told. Hopefully they have both, as the ideas they have sound pretty good.

From what I've heard about it (I hear something about it these days like every other week from Sting), it sounds like it might be fun script-wise, but some of their scripters have asked me to help out with REAL simple scripts (or ideas on how to script certain things like the coffins in the graveyard) so that doesn't bode well. It will probably be fun to mess around with/in if and when it goes up, but I doubt it will be a graphical masterpiece.

Tyhm · #36 06-21-2002, 10:47 AM

The new Zorbi weapon's fun. Stick someone in a bubble and send them bouncing across the level. You gotta love that.

BLOOD_kane · #37 06-21-2002, 12:40 PM

I miss Rag...he was cool, but now his email doesnt work and I quit that OTHER game we played so i got no contact with him anymore. Wow sounds cool. So where exactly will each Nations capital be? (most are a given but some arent)

albus777 · #38 06-21-2002, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Tyhm
The new Zorbi weapon's fun. Stick someone in a bubble and send them bouncing across the level. You gotta love that.

Yea, it's nice. Just annoying when Dark Cloud traps you and keeps using it though

DarkCloud_PK · #39 06-21-2002, 10:36 PM

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Yea, it's nice. Just annoying when Dark Cloud traps you and keeps using it though

That was for one day, shoulda seen all the bubbles Tyhmmie made in Bro's field. I got him back, yes I did.

Tyhm · #40 06-21-2002, 11:37 PM

Graal Nation - Graal Castle
Ninji Nation - Ninji Castle
Lunaris Nation - Southern Lunaris
Ceres Nation - Zorbi Castle
R@gnarok Nation - Avalon
Sardon Nation - Under Sardon's Tower
Gaia Nation - Nimda Forest
Babord Nation - undecided, may be removed/replaced
Vampire Nation - Vampire Island if it ever gets finished and approved, Voluran's Mausoleum otherwise
Lizardon Nation - I'm thinking of revising the Lizardon Temple, such that the existing Temple becomes a Castle with certain doors only available to Nation members and baddy-triggered doors set to allow passage of Lizardon Nation members - they're immune to baddies, so they'd be well defended there.