Guns

[Arakonda]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

it's subjective, imo tg is the gun with greatest potential (except it can be sticky) and acr is the lamest (semi-auto so if ur a d holder ull suck with it) but mp5 is still a good gun
the problem is that many guns were nerfed more than others and prices got fked up

How come you are always contradicting yourself?

[The_Federov]

Wil did a good job, get off his ass. you know how much time he took to make sure he made the game fair? He could have half assed, and nerfed every gun he didn't have. instead, he tried all the guns, and made the Game fair.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Arakonda

How come you are always contradicting yourself?

??? i dont agree with gun nerfs but those r still the best guns lmao, theres only a bigger gap between expensive and cheap guns

[DirtySk8erballs]

Anybody could have taken the time to do what our current guns admin did, he simply took each weapon and edited the stats based on the current value or pawn price. He wasn't super biased with the guns he or his "friends" had so I give him that. What's missing are the few unique weapons that throw off the order and are easily obtainable from player to player

[taylor]

Bloodykiller you're a ****ing tool, has anyone told you that?

If not, well you learn something new everyday!

[bloodykiller]

y?

[punkrules]

It's a joke hearing all this talk about skill when every single "Soul" member, owns/uses/borrows an Mp5 at all times. Wil nerfed every gun and barely touched the Mp5. Whether it's regular spars, gangs events, or raids, every single Soul uses Mp5 only. If the NEW AND IMPROVED Mk23s and Stens give you a raging boner that hard, why don't you use them? Why doesn't a single member of your clueless family use em? In case you haven't noticed Era, all the Mp5 are in the Soul family. I guess it's just a wild coincidence amiright? ****heads.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by punkrules

It's a joke hearing all this talk about skill when every single "Soul" member, owns/uses/borrows an Mp5 at all times. Wil nerfed every gun and barely touched the Mp5. Whether it's regular spars, gangs events, or raids, every single Soul uses Mp5 only. If the NEW AND IMPROVED Mk23s and Stens give you a raging boner that hard, why don't you use them? Why doesn't a single member of your clueless family use em? In case you haven't noticed Era, all the Mp5 are in the Soul family. I guess it's just a wild coincidence amiright? ****heads.

umad?
But no.. why would someone use a M23k when they have access to a better weapon. You're just talking out your ass here bro.

Plenty (I mean dozens) of people have Mp5's that aren't inclusive in the 'Soul' family. Mp5 was always the best gun... they (as individual players) earned them pre-regulation and used them as such pre-regulation. Why would they need to 'abuse' the regulation of guns to be better?

It's not like Mp5 Navy is account-locked to Soul family members only.
Your argument is utter crap.

[punkrules]

Who the hell was asking you *****?
According to Wil, Mk23s can easily be used to beat an Mp5.
Didn't you get banned/reset?
Then you "tried" raiding with MS for a little bit after being unbanned and it was a riot.
Now that you have Mp5 back, god knows why, you decided to hop back to the glory days of Mp5 **** riding. I can buy an Mp5 at any given moment, but that is not part of my agenda. It's disappointing to see every player without an Mp5 get practically plowed by someone while using an Mp5. Remember you were one of those players? Or is Wil's fist that far up your ass... rubbing your belly, caressing your heart?

Fact of the matter is, every gun was nerfed, including Scar/Souizen, and Mp5 should have suffered as well.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by punkrules

Fact of the matter is, every gun was nerfed, including Scar/Souizen, and Mp5 should have suffered as well.

I don't think a history lesson of everything I do has anything to do with the argument so I won't comment.

All I know is, it was changed like every other gun. And the comment I made earlier is factual. When Soul owns every single Mp5, or it becomes locked to them only.. and THEN Wil uses his position to change it for advantageous reasons; I'll consider your argument valid.

Until then, you can generalize that about anyone who owns any weapon.
"Omg.. Osiris Minigun wasn't changed! The two people who own it must've been in cahoots with Wil so they could have an unfair advantage!!"

[taylor]

ya!

[Venom_Fish]

Originally Posted by DirtySk8erballs

What's missing are the few unique weapons that throw off the order and are easily obtainable from player to player

There are certain guns in Tier 1 (Lowest Grade) that have the potential to be considered Tier 2 as a treat to the players who aren't rich.

Like I said, I can't make newb guns equal Tier 3 guns because... well I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand the whole reason.

@Katbot:
Uh, to be honest, the only weapon that was UNTOUCHED was Osiris Minigun.
The least weapon altered other than that was the: P2Ks.

P2Ks are the only guns that retained their stats other than clip size.
I don't know where anyone is getting this "MP5 Navy" was untouched from.

In any event, use an Mp5 Navy and I'll beat you with a Tier 2 or Tier 1 Gun.

As I stated before, the MP5 Navy (in my opinion) is the best gun in the game. Statistically speaking, every gun in its class is SEPARATE but equal.
Its just my cup of tea due to the precision it provides.

@Tk
Quite the contrary, the space between great and good value weapons are smaller, alot smaller.