Guns

tstre · #1 06-23-2011, 04:48 PM

Ok, so I just got unbanned from Era yesterday, when I noticed all guns were nerfed..........All the fking guns suck now except, of course, MP5. "Rebalancing" guns that weren't in need of a 'rebalance' should have stayed the same. This is the dumbest **** I've ever seen.

Dragon551 · #2 06-23-2011, 05:17 PM

I hope you know there's been several threads about the same topic, no need to create another one.

tstre · #3 06-23-2011, 06:08 PM

I wouldn't care to look. If they're several more threads, and complaints on the same topic, wouldn't it be better if the guns were changed back? Smart idea huh?

Venom_Fish · #4 06-23-2011, 06:12 PM

Or ignore them until they stop <- Much easier.
j/k

But uh, you were just unbanned yesterday. Considering you haven't used many of the guns, perhaps not even your own (fluently) enough, you can be ignored.

Most people I've encountered, ranted and raved the first few days, then a week later told me "omg this is fkn awesome dude, i just owned a ACR or Mp5"

So, yeah... if you aren't able to immediately use a gun to its fullest potential and feel sluggish <- The balancing worked.

Guarantee: I can take whatever your gun is and use it as if it had .05 freeze given 3 spars to adjust.

Advice: Guns now are about timing. Plan/time your shots = Win. <- Hard to do, but its beneficial.

Good luck, lil' guy.

WillaWonka · #5 06-23-2011, 06:32 PM

Wil Soul doesnt want his hard work to go to waste, so he repeats himself over and over again why this mass nerf was needed...

Arakonda · #6 06-23-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Or ignore them until they stop <- Much easier.
j/k

But uh, you were just unbanned yesterday. Considering you haven't used many of the guns, perhaps not even your own (fluently) enough, you can be ignored.

Most people I've encountered, ranted and raved the first few days, then a week later told me "omg this is fkn awesome dude, i just owned a ACR or Mp5"

So, yeah... if you aren't able to immediately use a gun to its fullest potential and feel sluggish <- The balancing worked.

Guarantee: I can take whatever your gun is and use it as if it had .05 freeze given 3 spars to adjust.

Advice: Guns now are about timing. Plan/time your shots = Win. <- Hard to do, but its beneficial.

Good luck, lil' guy.

Tell me, what gun do you use?

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Originally Posted by tstre

Ok, so I just got unbanned from Era yesterday, when I noticed all guns were nerfed..........All the fking guns suck now except, of course, MP5. "Rebalancing" guns that weren't in need of a 'rebalance' should have stayed the same. This is the dumbest **** I've ever seen.

Remind me, who owns a Mp5?

Supaman771 · #7 06-23-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Arakonda

Remind me, who owns a Mp5?

About half of era.

Dragon551 · #8 06-23-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771

About half of era.

Hmm... Only a server reset can solve this! TO THE LAB!

Supaman771 · #9 06-23-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551

Hmm... Only a server reset can solve this! TO THE LAB!

Gtfo forums.
SELF-DISTRACTIONS D:!

Also... I thought we turned the lab into a taco bell last week for your birthday? Whose job was it to clean that up...

Dragon551 · #10 06-23-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771

Gtfo forums.
SELF-DISTRACTIONS D:!

Also... I thought we turned the lab into a taco bell last week for your birthday? Whose job was it to clean that up...

Alfs @ work

And wut D: WHY WASN'T I INVITED!?

tstre · #11 06-23-2011, 07:40 PM

Well, back to Willey Soul. We all have our favorite guns, obviously, mine was SMGPK but that's total ass right now lol, but 'I guess I have to get used to it'.

BigBear3 · #12 06-23-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

Or ignore them until they stop <- Much easier.
j/k

But uh, you were just unbanned yesterday. Considering you haven't used many of the guns, perhaps not even your own (fluently) enough, you can be ignored.

Most people I've encountered, ranted and raved the first few days, then a week later told me "omg this is fkn awesome dude, i just owned a ACR or Mp5"

So, yeah... if you aren't able to immediately use a gun to its fullest potential and feel sluggish <- The balancing worked.

Guarantee: I can take whatever your gun is and use it as if it had .05 freeze given 3 spars to adjust.

Advice: Guns now are about timing. Plan/time your shots = Win. <- Hard to do, but its beneficial.

Good luck, lil' guy.

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whats

up

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Venom_Fish · #13 06-24-2011, 07:56 AM

@Arakonda
I use: Coregun, Mp5, PL-9 Shotgun.

Guns have all be balanced and altered, including MP5 Navy.
However, for the most part, guns have retained value.
That was the objective of the rebalancing (without reset),
was to change the notch / clean up the mess on weapons with minimal impact on Prices.

For the most part, successful.
As a part of this, Mp5 Navy is the best gun on era (in my opinion).
Statistically speaking, there are weapons that are equal in comparison (Tier 3).

Overall, if someone can't pk and have an MP5. You'll beat them with MK23s.

Actually, in any case, I think I lost to Repo today in that same scenario lul.

@tstre
I like the SMGPK, I think its one of the most versatile weapons. It can take on anything and warrants use in any situation. Again, you'll have to use the gun more to figure this out. First-hand judgements would be unwise.

If you want, I can give you a display of its capabilities in a scenario of your choice to help you better adjust.

Overall, could NOT make the ACR super-bad in new standards because its pricing, amongst other things, did not warrant it.
Therefore, could NOT make the MP5 Navy the freezetime of an Uzi because of the same reason.

All Tier 3 Guns are comparable to the MP5 Navy.
Sell your Soul for one of you believe they're so great.
I will advise you: In the new system, if you can't pk: It'll show.

ilovegirlzz · #14 06-24-2011, 08:05 AM

but mp5 is still the best gun...wtf if you want balancing why not just give all guns same stats lol that wud suck but **** u want "balance"

bloodykiller · #15 06-24-2011, 06:33 PM

it's subjective, imo tg is the gun with greatest potential (except it can be sticky) and acr is the lamest (semi-auto so if ur a d holder ull suck with it) but mp5 is still a good gun
the problem is that many guns were nerfed more than others and prices got fked up

Arakonda · #16 06-24-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller

it's subjective, imo tg is the gun with greatest potential (except it can be sticky) and acr is the lamest (semi-auto so if ur a d holder ull suck with it) but mp5 is still a good gun
the problem is that many guns were nerfed more than others and prices got fked up

How come you are always contradicting yourself?

The_Federov · #17 06-24-2011, 08:41 PM

Wil did a good job, get off his ass. you know how much time he took to make sure he made the game fair? He could have half assed, and nerfed every gun he didn't have. instead, he tried all the guns, and made the Game fair.

bloodykiller · #18 06-24-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Arakonda

How come you are always contradicting yourself?

??? i dont agree with gun nerfs but those r still the best guns lmao, theres only a bigger gap between expensive and cheap guns

DirtySk8erballs · #19 06-24-2011, 09:23 PM

Anybody could have taken the time to do what our current guns admin did, he simply took each weapon and edited the stats based on the current value or pawn price. He wasn't super biased with the guns he or his "friends" had so I give him that. What's missing are the few unique weapons that throw off the order and are easily obtainable from player to player

taylor · #20 06-24-2011, 09:36 PM

Bloodykiller you're a ****ing tool, has anyone told you that?

If not, well you learn something new everyday!

bloodykiller · #21 06-24-2011, 09:38 PM

punkrules · #22 06-24-2011, 10:05 PM

It's a joke hearing all this talk about skill when every single "Soul" member, owns/uses/borrows an Mp5 at all times. Wil nerfed every gun and barely touched the Mp5. Whether it's regular spars, gangs events, or raids, every single Soul uses Mp5 only. If the NEW AND IMPROVED Mk23s and Stens give you a raging boner that hard, why don't you use them? Why doesn't a single member of your clueless family use em? In case you haven't noticed Era, all the Mp5 are in the Soul family. I guess it's just a wild coincidence amiright? ****heads.

Supaman771 · #23 06-24-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by punkrules

It's a joke hearing all this talk about skill when every single "Soul" member, owns/uses/borrows an Mp5 at all times. Wil nerfed every gun and barely touched the Mp5. Whether it's regular spars, gangs events, or raids, every single Soul uses Mp5 only. If the NEW AND IMPROVED Mk23s and Stens give you a raging boner that hard, why don't you use them? Why doesn't a single member of your clueless family use em? In case you haven't noticed Era, all the Mp5 are in the Soul family. I guess it's just a wild coincidence amiright? ****heads.

umad?
But no.. why would someone use a M23k when they have access to a better weapon. You're just talking out your ass here bro.

Plenty (I mean dozens) of people have Mp5's that aren't inclusive in the 'Soul' family. Mp5 was always the best gun... they (as individual players) earned them pre-regulation and used them as such pre-regulation. Why would they need to 'abuse' the regulation of guns to be better?

It's not like Mp5 Navy is account-locked to Soul family members only.
Your argument is utter crap.

punkrules · #24 06-24-2011, 10:51 PM

Who the hell was asking you *****?
According to Wil, Mk23s can easily be used to beat an Mp5.
Didn't you get banned/reset?
Then you "tried" raiding with MS for a little bit after being unbanned and it was a riot.
Now that you have Mp5 back, god knows why, you decided to hop back to the glory days of Mp5 **** riding. I can buy an Mp5 at any given moment, but that is not part of my agenda. It's disappointing to see every player without an Mp5 get practically plowed by someone while using an Mp5. Remember you were one of those players? Or is Wil's fist that far up your ass... rubbing your belly, caressing your heart?

Fact of the matter is, every gun was nerfed, including Scar/Souizen, and Mp5 should have suffered as well.

Supaman771 · #25 06-24-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by punkrules

Fact of the matter is, every gun was nerfed, including Scar/Souizen, and Mp5 should have suffered as well.

I don't think a history lesson of everything I do has anything to do with the argument so I won't comment.

All I know is, it was changed like every other gun. And the comment I made earlier is factual. When Soul owns every single Mp5, or it becomes locked to them only.. and THEN Wil uses his position to change it for advantageous reasons; I'll consider your argument valid.

Until then, you can generalize that about anyone who owns any weapon.
"Omg.. Osiris Minigun wasn't changed! The two people who own it must've been in cahoots with Wil so they could have an unfair advantage!!"

taylor · #26 06-24-2011, 11:38 PM

Venom_Fish · #27 06-25-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtySk8erballs

What's missing are the few unique weapons that throw off the order and are easily obtainable from player to player

There are certain guns in Tier 1 (Lowest Grade) that have the potential to be considered Tier 2 as a treat to the players who aren't rich.

Like I said, I can't make newb guns equal Tier 3 guns because... well I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand the whole reason.

@Katbot:
Uh, to be honest, the only weapon that was UNTOUCHED was Osiris Minigun.
The least weapon altered other than that was the: P2Ks.

P2Ks are the only guns that retained their stats other than clip size.
I don't know where anyone is getting this "MP5 Navy" was untouched from.

In any event, use an Mp5 Navy and I'll beat you with a Tier 2 or Tier 1 Gun.

As I stated before, the MP5 Navy (in my opinion) is the best gun in the game. Statistically speaking, every gun in its class is SEPARATE but equal.
Its just my cup of tea due to the precision it provides.

@Tk
Quite the contrary, the space between great and good value weapons are smaller, alot smaller.