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bank shouldn't be that stupid

Originally posted by FateKnight_2001
bank shouldn't be that stupid

Sometimes, a bank can take a long time to follow up examining its records or investigating fraud. If criminals aren't caught until six months, sometimes years after their crimes, does that make the police stupid?

[Birdbird_0]

My dad just closed the other card that we have that is not based off of the bank, (diffrent card)
Well, june 28th some 30 odd dollers were deducted in Paris France, from a place called "Euro Center" so, he closed that aco****, but that has nothing to do with the card I used for graal, does anyone know what "Euro Center" is?

[CrazedMerlin]

euro center is like where pay box is located or something

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
My dad just closed the other card that we have that is not based off of the bank, (diffrent card)
Well, june 28th some 30 odd dollers were deducted in Paris France, from a place called "Euro Center" so, he closed that aco****, but that has nothing to do with the card I used for graal, does anyone know what "Euro Center" is?

EUROCENTER is unixmad's place of work. The place he is CEO of, I think, or just the building which houses the Cyberjouer business. I'm not sure.

[Birdbird_0]

Than, how the heck did my other card, not the visa card from my account, get 30 some odd dolers deducted from it in Paris France, for Euro Center? on the 28th of june?!

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Than, how the heck did my other card, not the visa card from my account, get 30 some odd dolers deducted from it in Paris France, for Euro Center? on the 28th of june?!

Umm. I don't know. Maybe unixmad = mad haxor?

[Birdbird_0]

Somthing Fishy is going on./

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Somthing Fishy is going on./

IS IT A TROUT?!

lol

[Merlin]

this is fcukde pu y0

[Rekad]

call the police on Unix

[Birdbird_0]

the thing is, this is the card that I use in case of emergencys, and it turned up this thing on June 28th that 30 somthing $ was percheced there, I wana know whats going on.

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
the thing is, this is the card that I use in case of emergencys, and it turned up this thing on June 28th that 30 somthing $ was percheced there, I wana know whats going on.

MAYBE YOUR DAD SECRET PLAYS GRAAL?! or works for Cyberjouer?!

[BrianDAPenguin]

Originally posted by konidias
I paid and the money was deducted from my card.. if mine gets cut off because of cc fraud, stefan has some explainin' to do

Heh, guess what? it happened to me! and i have 3 accounts, but only one went down @_@ (my good account)

[BrianDAPenguin]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Than, how the heck did my other card, not the visa card from my account, get 30 some odd dolers deducted from it in Paris France, for Euro Center? on the 28th of june?!

OMG! something like that happened on my mom's cc, too!

[Birdbird_0]

Originally posted by BrianDAPenguin


OMG! something like that happened on my mom's cc, too!

O_o I am not liking the feeling that I am getting, I wish unixmad would post now giving us some insight on what the frell is going on.

The credit card listing for
"PARIS FRANCE, EUROCENTER" is the transaction for a Graal 2001 account. If people closed their creditcards after seeing such an odd listing, that's why it's been disabled.
However, in BirdBird's case, I'm not sure why it showed up repeatedly. Also, I suggest unixmad gets a paybox system that is:
A. secure, so things like this don't happen
B. in ENGLISH, SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.
C. Has a more descriptive listing than "PARIS FRANCE, EUROCENTER." Perhaps "Eurocenter - Graal 2001 - Account Upgrade, (amount of months)", or something like that.

[Aknts]

I don't know whats going on, nor do I want it to happen to my account. So I told my mom whats going on and she is going to contact a friend of hers (who is a lawyer) and he is going to check in to this. I will have news within a week.

Originally posted by Aknts
I don't know whats going on, nor do I want it to happen to my account. So I told my mom whats going on and she is going to contact a friend of hers (who is a lawyer) and he is going to check in to this. I will have news within a week.

Half the people that this has happened to will probably quit by then.

[Birdbird_0]

HAS BEEN VICOTMIOZWDS AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHH NOOOOO!O

[Makox]

This is really freaked.. half of all the players have lost there accounts.. :/

This needs to be fixed right Unixmad.. :/


(yey first time im using this forum) :P
/Makoz

[Admins]

There are many ways to refund money:
When you buy something with credit
card then you can go to the bank and
cancel the transaction, the bank can
cancel transactions too. We don't get much more
informations than '215 euro transferred to
your account, transaction number xxx'
(paybox gives us the transaction number too
so we know for which Graal account the transaction is)
Then sometimes later the bank says
'transaction xxx has been canceled, the money
needed to be transferred back to the credit
card owner'.
There is not much we or anyone could make
wrong. The only thing that we are doing now
is cancelling the accounts where the transactions
have been cancelled.

[Admins]

it's less than 4%

Originally posted by Stefan
it's less than 4%

The people who bought mine certainly knew what I was buying cause I had to plead with them to buy it!

[Admins]

?

[Cloud_X]

Well if im on that list i already have many many record to prove I paid and the account was not canceled Hopefully nothing will get messed up. Odds are peopel saw "Cyberjouer" and said WTF? not knowing it was graal...

[Rainstorm]

Even if the card was canceled , it wouldnt matter about the account since it was already paid for.

[Crono Illusion]

Originally posted by Stefan
There are many ways to refund money:
When you buy something with credit
card then you can go to the bank and
cancel the transaction, the bank can
cancel transactions too. We don't get much more
informations than '215 euro transferred to
your account, transaction number xxx'
(paybox gives us the transaction number too
so we know for which Graal account the transaction is)
Then sometimes later the bank says
'transaction xxx has been canceled, the money
needed to be transferred back to the credit
card owner'.
There is not much we or anyone could make
wrong. The only thing that we are doing now
is cancelling the accounts where the transactions
have been cancelled.

The most likely reason for the transaction to be canceled is because of how undescriptive it is on the credit card bill. When the cardholder of my family obtained the bill, they were going to cancel the transaction and maybe even the creditcard after seeing a charge for "PARIS". I have a feeling many people cancelled transactions like this one, mainly because of how cryptic it appears. I highly reccomend you make the paybox more descriptive, and perhaps even make the confirmation in English.

[Admins]

Yes would be better to speak with the owner of
the credit card before using it for the upgrade
The company is Linux Cyberjoueurs,
unixmads old company is Eurocenter
(don't ask me about internal company stuff),
both located in Paris

[LordMax]

i think its more than 4% that have been cancled after hearing all these stories.