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Old 01-30-2003, 11:23 PM
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now that i read it all im gonna post.....

for starters i wanna say.
konidias you are a spoiled hypocrital stuck up a$$

you posted about my review that worlds shouldnt be required to have new graphics and new systems, yet you say thats the best thing about your world, and its WHY you should not have 4 week. but you dont want that to be required
if we dont require it this problem will keep occouring

your pw isnt "THE BEST" sure lots of people work on it, sure its got good ideas, but you are ASSUMING that its the best (there goes that word again) best to keep your mouth shut unless you know, unless you like the taste of your foot.

you were put up by stefan, congrats. but that doesnt give you bragging rights. i hate people like that. im NOT saying I like era
but they scripted all their stuff offline, why cant you!?

and you know what, if you have such superior staff, it SHOULDNT take so long for it to get completed. you say era is nice, well it didnt take half the time you did.

in regards to those top 7 worlds
take a look at a pattern.....
UN - Has desgusting things in it, hoe*s slu*ts, and the management doesnt enforce the rules, you know why? because players like doing whatever they want
Era - guns? gangs? mafia? swords? people are already shooting up schools, im not saying everyone who plays era is gonna get in trouble, but i was shutdown once for having the world "SL*UT" in a sign. you know why? because i was told "some young people play the game, and we dont wnt to influence them badly" how well are players being influenced with guns, gangs, violence like this? or having ho*es like that, or signs taht say 'YO SLU'T' is that good?
Valkorlia - doesnt have ANY rules, but will eat your head off if you dont have an 'rp name'
Delteria- dude i went on there and hacked in front of the former police chief, he did nothing. but i said he was an irresponsible chief and he jailed me... hmm fun!
Babylon - uhm... i was banned there once because some player that doesnt like me said i did something i didnt... wee a playerworld where you can ban people you dont like! FUN!!

this is all a biast situation
and if GO administration doesnt take care of this, and stop thining bout their pocketbook, they will be in BIG trouble

as the game grows, more people notice it, and if a rating board gets ahold of it, im sure itll get a Mature rating (which is possible for online games) and will require parental concent for anyone under 16 to play. graal DOESNT want that because 75% of their player income comes from little kids and their allowance.
Well, I think you are being a hypocrite. You're not living up to the standards you posted. Now please return to the festering hole from whence you came. Oh! And have a nice day

There's just as much potential to be creative and original using the default tileset, you're just not looking hard enough. Those that use different graphics perhaps want thier world to have a different feel and appearance aside from going outside the norm. Did you ever consider that? As for an ESRB rating. Graal itself is capable of anything but would most likely wind up with either E or T (probably T more than anything). What should be done is to directly give ESRB ratings to each individual PW. Just because people can spew out vulgarities and such does not automattically equal and M from ESRB. Heck, look at TheSimsOnline or Phantasy Star Online. Both are rated T, but anyone can go on and swear up and down. Its up to the administration to enforce a rule concerning swearing or not. The game is rated based upon the contents of the game such as violence or themes. Besides, its not like kids don't play games like Halo, GTA, or Mortal Kombat. Those games have blood, gore, swearing, etc. Graal is about violence anyway. Every server that has swords falls in the catagory. ONO! Classic has people running around hitting each other with swords, lets put a stop to this violence so we don't influence the children

As for having good staff, things will still take long. Its possible to go through many different builds of a script or different level designs and styles before one is found appropriate and efficient and so forth. This is why commercial games can take upto 4+ years to complete. Mostly because the final product is the final product when concerning console games. Even though you can make fixes and such for PC games, its best to do what you can do right before releasing it publicly. Its probably a very painful task to make patches for software sometimes and sometimes its just simple updates and improvements that didn't quite make it to the deadline or that are being saved for other purposes.

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Playerworlds are about being creative. When you put on restrictions that are likened to a vice, you're just restricting that creativity. This is not to say that I approve of playerworlds that have nudity or assorted obscenities. That's just being disgusting, not creative. If someone can make a playerworld that although its small yet is fun, exciting, new, and unique, why penalize them? You're wanthing playerworlds to be more diverse, correct? Well then a server like this fits the bill granted that it may not have achieved a certain standard. I think Era has a rather small overworld, but it got up. Despite what players do on it, I still think its original, fun, unique, and new. Again, you're focusing on quantity and not quality. This isn't a contest to see who can make the biggest overworld or who has the most new stuff. Although having more new than not is a plus, it shouldn't be a total detriment to the playerworld so long as the quality of it meets a certain level. When you focus on quantity rather than quality, you'll get more crap than not.

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Old 01-31-2003, 01:23 AM
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for starters i wanna say.
konidias you are a spoiled hypocrital stuck up a$$

you posted about my review that worlds shouldnt be required to have new graphics and new systems, yet you say thats the best thing about your world, and its WHY you should not have 4 week. but you dont want that to be required
if we dont require it this problem will keep occouring

your pw isnt "THE BEST" sure lots of people work on it, sure its got good ideas, but you are ASSUMING that its the best (there goes that word again) best to keep your mouth shut unless you know, unless you like the taste of your foot.

you were put up by stefan, congrats. but that doesnt give you bragging rights. i hate people like that. im NOT saying I like era
but they scripted all their stuff offline, why cant you!?

and you know what, if you have such superior staff, it SHOULDNT take so long for it to get completed. you say era is nice, well it didnt take half the time you did.
LOL I'm spoiled and hypocritical? No I don't think they should be required to have new graphics or systems. Yes I did say the new graphics and systems make my playerworld better. I never said the old graphics and systems were unacceptable.

You're ASSUMING my playerworld isn't the best. How are you any different than me? At least I know what my playerworld has to offer. So I was put up by Stefan. Did I brag? No, I just stated that Stefan put my playerworld up, and it's his decision to remove it. I didn't say "neener neener my pw rox and stefan put it up because it is the bestest!"

Era scripted their stuff offline? Yeah they did, then it went online, and got reset a week later because of bugs in their online bank. I have great staff, but I have 2 staff. Me and Falados (at the moment). So of course it's going to take longer than a team of 20. Era is nice for 15 minutes, then it becomes repetitive and loses all replay value. I probably have less than an hour logged there because I went through everything there was to do in 20 minutes and I'd rather not join a gang so I can work in a sweatshop and make guns and ammo for a bunch of kids that will go around and kill girls with them as they call them sl*ts.
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LOL I'm spoiled and hypocritical?
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He missed ass
I'd just like to know how he claims I'm spoiled and stuck up when my family pulls in a mere 30,000 a year to support 4 people, and I'm having to pay for most of my food and many of the bills, and I haven't recieved anything for myself in months. Yes I'm so spoiled and so stuck up. I work my ass off for a game that I get nothing in return for it, and then just because Stefan likes my work and treats me as a friend, I'm spoiled and stuck up.
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Old 01-31-2003, 02:22 AM
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WELL ITS TRUE!
He's like admitted to being an ass twice now.
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I'd just like to know how he claims I'm spoiled and stuck up when my family pulls in a mere 30,000 a year to support 4 people, and I'm having to pay for most of my food and many of the bills, and I haven't recieved anything for myself in months. Yes I'm so spoiled and so stuck up. I work my ass off for a game that I get nothing in return for it, and then just because Stefan likes my work and treats me as a friend, I'm spoiled and stuck up.
Try 36,000 for a family of 6.
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o.o.. thats 6,000 per person.. but including bills and everything.. O.O
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Umm, only child. Parents make slightly above average wages.. o.O
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I'd just like to know how he claims I'm spoiled and stuck up when my family pulls in a mere 30,000 a year to support 4 people, and I'm having to pay for most of my food and many of the bills, and I haven't recieved anything for myself in months. Yes I'm so spoiled and so stuck up. I work my ass off for a game that I get nothing in return for it, and then just because Stefan likes my work and treats me as a friend, I'm spoiled and stuck up.
and yet you can stay online 24/7

im sure thats cheap =D
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im NOT saying I like era
but they scripted all their stuff offline, why cant you!?
How many times must this be answered? He could, but it would increase development times and decrease world quality. What is so difficult about this concept?

And Warcaptain, don't turn this into a personal war on Konidias. If you wanna argue the topic at hand then do so, but don't turn the thread into a flamefest.
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