The masquerade continues!

[LoveableNalle]

Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee

Well, tonight's little meeting sure was entertaining, for me especially since i managed to prove further the complete lack of RPing skill nayako posesses.

When challenged to a roleplaying duel, the challenge itself being RPed also, she merely sat silent posting the same (())message (which was entirely irrelevant to all happenings and conversations) and then went inside her castle.

So, we know that she has absoultely no care at all for whether or not the members of her kingdom can and do roleplay or not. We know that she does not even bother to encourage roleplay. We also know now that she lacks the skill to even accept a challenge.

Just wanted to let you samurai members, and the rest of the graal community know, that the leader you currently have cannot Roleplay, and thus goes against the very idea of the kingdoms, and the community she is in charge of.

PS. Yeah, if this thread is deleted along with my other posts, nayako, i'll try having a word with a few REAL, and responsible, and intellgent, and mature moderators about your bad moderation of your forums. It might not get me anywhere, but i hope it will, since there's absolutely nothing illegal about this thread. It's just pointing out some proven facts.

The fact that I refused to acknowledge your presence, does not mean I do not RP or encourage RP to my members. You all come here uninvited unannounced while your Kingdom leaders are not even online, much less have made agrangements for RP Event and expect me to RP at your demands?
I don't think so, mr self-rightous better go learn the RP rules then open your mouth.

[TeRRi2k]

Originally Posted by LoveableNalle

You all come here uninvited unannounced while your Kingdom leaders are not even online, much less have made agrangements for RP Event and expect me to RP at your demands?

Maybe it was planned as an ambush. Maybe they wanted to come 'secretly'. Right now KJ members are viewed as vermin (at least rp wise) so of course we would not have cared if you sent us a friendly invitation to your island or not. We weren't about to announce it to the world that we're going to KJ either. (Mind that you hired people to come to Dustari 'uninvited/unannounced' to destroy our forts? Same idea: what if we just came here to destroy your forts/whatever? We're just retaliating.)

Unannounced or not, you expected our arrival, hence you trapped us all with your kingdom-protected fences.

Btw, Lego asked to do some rp-challenge with you, while members from either Dustari/Zormite around you were waiting for something to happen: would you get on bmode or say an announcement to us? I understand you didn't have to rp at that time, (because most were OOC saying you can't rp/blah blah) but taunting us with your whistling didn't improve the situation either. To me it was more like a message saying "Hahah what can you do now. W'e're all on pmode, and we're sitting here like it's a comfy picnic. "

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally Posted by LoveableNalle

The fact that I refused to acknowledge your presence, does not mean I do not RP or encourage RP to my members. You all come here uninvited unannounced while your Kingdom leaders are not even online, much less have made agrangements for RP Event and expect me to RP at your demands?
I don't think so, mr self-rightous better go learn the RP rules then open your mouth.

Wheee, what a load of crud.
For a start, yes, it DOES maen you don't RP, because you refuse to prove otherwise, suggesting that you can't prove otherwise. Secondly, yes it DOES mean you do not encourage your members to RP, because you fail to set them an example by accepting my challenge/invitation. Instead, you encouraged them not to interact at all, and let many of them simply run around looking silly and saying/doing silly OOC things ontag - if you gave the slightest crap, you would have at least reminded them that they should have been RPing while on their tags.

Secondly, you cannot simply void our IC prescence, and not respond ICly, unarranged attack or otherwise. The fact is, we were still there, In character, demanding a battle. You can't deny the fact of our IC existance, and if you think you can i suggest you go research some RPing groundrules.
Roleplaying does not always have to be predetermined and planned out beforehand...otherwise, what the hell is the point? We might as well all just go and read a book that we've already read.


On the topic of rules, although straying a little from the path (not too much though), there really, really needs to be:
A)A thoroughly planned, carefully devised, and widely agreed upon set of rules that EVERY member of every kingdom must know and obey. This set of rules will be clearly displayed on the Kingdoms Forum.
B)An administrator whos sole job is to regulate the kingdoms/their members, and to punish those who disobey the rules.
(possibly only the first is -essential-, the otherone might be avoided through such a system as...the kingdom leaders are incharge of their members obeying the rules, and if a current developer such as jagen or loriel or something recieves enough reports of a poorly disciplined kingdom, they will punish the kingdom leader)
Anyway, until we see this put into motion, everything we do, all our hard work and effort, is futile, and the server will never become a good place to RP in.

[LoveableNalle]

Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee

Wheee, what a load of crud.
For a start, yes, it DOES maen you don't RP, because you refuse to prove otherwise, suggesting that you can't prove otherwise. Secondly, yes it DOES mean you do not encourage your members to RP, because you fail to set them an example by accepting my challenge/invitation. Instead, you encouraged them not to interact at all, and let many of them simply run around looking silly and saying/doing silly OOC things ontag - if you gave the slightest crap, you would have at least reminded them that they should have been RPing while on their tags.

You were not RPing in the first place, unless you reguard Knight Sofia and Soldier Thallen's cussing on tag as RPing. And Going on Bmode is not RPing its Pking learn the difference.

[Splke]

First thing

Declaring War should make all players in that kingdom while on their own island be in b-mode, no matter the reason / situation.

Second

I was on Teamspeak, and Nido was telling Nayoko what to do while they 'Roleplayed', while she laughed in real life about how she was mocking you all. It's pathetic.

Third

This thread isn't a flame, you do not see one direct flame upon Nayoko as a person(s ), you simply see facts derived from her behavior while 'Roleplaying' on-tag and infront of these individuals. For ****s sake, you cannot say they are breaking the rules, or say Nayoko is a great roleplayer if she has never shown them this.

Fourth

I RP daily, and you don't see me as the 'center of attention'. Hell, I've RP'd with people and they've tried to PK me, this server's roleplay compatibility is ruled out, and there is no chivarly or respect for us anymore.

Lastly

If you have a problem with her, a group of people should PM Stefen (Forums) and advise him, or perhaps notify him of your dis-satisfaction of the current leader who is not allowing RP to undergo, and is not allowing kingdom activitys, is selfishly holding onto her kingdom, and has no reason to be in power.

Thanks, I think I basically said everything possible.

moonie sawks <3

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by Splke

If you have a problem with her, a group of people should PM Stefen (Forums) and advise him, or perhaps notify him of your dis-satisfaction of the current leader who is not allowing RP to undergo, and is not allowing kingdom activitys, is selfishly holding onto her kingdom, and has no reason to be in power.

Thanks, I think I basically said everything possible.

moonie sawks <3

Didn't work with Marksie B...

I guess so yeah <3

[LoveableNalle]

Originally Posted by Splke

First thing

Declaring War should make all players in that kingdom while on their own island be in b-mode, no matter the reason / situation.

Second

I was on Teamspeak, and Nido was telling Nayoko what to do while they 'Roleplayed', while she laughed in real life about how she was mocking you all. It's pathetic.

Third

This thread isn't a flame, you do not see one direct flame upon Nayoko as a person(s ), you simply see facts derived from her behavior while 'Roleplaying' on-tag and infront of these individuals. For ****s sake, you cannot say they are breaking the rules, or say Nayoko is a great roleplayer if she has never shown them this.

Fourth

I RP daily, and you don't see me as the 'center of attention'. Hell, I've RP'd with people and they've tried to PK me, this server's roleplay compatibility is ruled out, and there is no chivarly or respect for us anymore.

Lastly

If you have a problem with her, a group of people should PM Stefen (Forums) and advise him, or perhaps notify him of your dis-satisfaction of the current leader who is not allowing RP to undergo, and is not allowing kingdom activitys, is selfishly holding onto her kingdom, and has no reason to be in power.

Thanks, I think I basically said everything possible.

moonie sawks <3

Argo what is your problem? You are lying thru your teeth. On one had I am accused of NOT Role Playing, then you accuse Nido of telling me what to do while I Role Played. It cannot be both. If you are going to continue to lie at least get your story straight.

And you Role Play everyday, funny but being on bmode and Pking people in trading room is not Role playing its pking.
And as far as declaring war on a kingdom, none of the leaders of Dustari or Zormite were online and far as i'm concerned I dont have to acknowledge presence of people who come over on thier own without prior arraingments.

And one more thing, go troll your own kingdom forums. Your kingdom is dead. why dont you go liven it up and stop putting your two cents in on something you know nothing about?

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally Posted by LoveableNalle

You were not RPing in the first place, unless you reguard Knight Sofia and Soldier Thallen's cussing on tag as RPing. And Going on Bmode is not RPing its Pking learn the difference.

I tried roleplay in several places there, which you would have noticed were you not sitting there being childish. But w/e, your loss. Wait, no, its all our losses. Because it means samurai loses, which means the whole server loses because we have a crap kingdom tainting everything

[TeRRi2k]

Originally Posted by LoveableNalle

You were not RPing in the first place, unless you reguard Knight Sofia and Soldier Thallen's cussing on tag as RPing. And Going on Bmode is not RPing its Pking learn the difference.

Um. I saw him 'trying' to RP with you, but you either didn't see him or just totally ignored him. What Sofia/Thallen was doing, that's there business. You don't tie other's cussing/poor rp/whatever they were doing to someone who sincerely tried to rp with you.

Anyway I didn't see either of them swearing but that may have happened before I came / I didn't notice it and I apologize for them. They may be expressing frustration due to you 'mocking' them. Now that you brought up some of my members, you should be looking after your own. Some fool constantly flamed at us, and he was right in front of you, AND he was on tag, yet you made no move to stop him, or at least remind him that he shouldn't be doing so. Again, this shows that you don't encourage RP within your kingdom (or to a limited extent) or maybe you think that type of behaviour is acceptable.