PWA Duties - Dealing with Corruption

Thallen · #1 06-22-2004, 01:41 PM

I've come to see that, as far as I know, the only PWA that is really productive is Spark. Everyone else just deals with common player problems, and one of them, who I will not mention, aren't even good at that. I rarely even see them online. Playerworld Administrators need a new duty, they need to have the responsibility of actually playing playerworlds, which is something most globals don't have the chance to do, and stopping constant corruption from happening. Things need to be done about the greed and envy on Classic servers, it gets rediculous. Just last night, myself and a friend won the Babylon Tag-Team Spar Tournament and a player without a tag named "Oasator" comes into the spar and begins to attempt to PK me. I ran around, and he summoned me, slicing at me, proclaiming I was 'hacking' when he couldn't hit me, even though you become paused when you are summoned, because of the say2 message. Things like this get really annoying, and I think a lot of these things happen to me because I'm more of an outsider that plays Graal Kingdoms. What I'm saying is, PWA should be responsible for playerworlds when managers can't. Sometimes even managers can step out of line, y'know?

Crono · #2 06-22-2004, 03:33 PM

Killer told me about that babylon situation, Thallen. It's times like those where you WISH you had some PWA that actually play a PW and know how stupid some staff can be.

Spark910 · #3 06-22-2004, 03:38 PM

hmm well no one was contacted about this. But myself and Houdini are doing exams, although he finished a day or two ago, and I finish tomorrow

WanDaMan · #4 06-22-2004, 03:41 PM

if you ask me spark does alot of work and he has exams..
VTs p2p ran out, or did he upgrade? :O
moongod was promoted to accounts admin but now has quit so spark might be new accounts dude

ugh
and houdinis... sparks said..

matt8891 · #5 06-22-2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

if you ask me spark does alot of work and he has exams..
VTs p2p ran out, or did he upgrade? :O
moongod was promoted to accounts admin but now has quit so spark might be new accounts dude

ugh
and houdinis... sparks said..

I rarely seen Houndiniman on. Is he still Playerworld Admin?

Oldbie · #6 06-22-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

I've come to see that, as far as I know, the only PWA that is really productive is Spark. Everyone else just deals with common player problems, and one of them, who I will not mention, aren't even good at that. I rarely even see them online. Playerworld Administrators need a new duty, they need to have the responsibility of actually playing playerworlds, which is something most globals don't have the chance to do, and stopping constant corruption from happening. Things need to be done about the greed and envy on Classic servers, it gets rediculous. Just last night, myself and a friend won the Babylon Tag-Team Spar Tournament and a player without a tag named "Oasator" comes into the spar and begins to attempt to PK me. I ran around, and he summoned me, slicing at me, proclaiming I was 'hacking' when he couldn't hit me, even though you become paused when you are summoned, because of the say2 message. Things like this get really annoying, and I think a lot of these things happen to me because I'm more of an outsider that plays Graal Kingdoms. What I'm saying is, PWA should be responsible for playerworlds when managers can't. Sometimes even managers can step out of line, y'know?

Would you just shut up? Your just trying to score points for this NEW PWA that they're hiring. Trying to make yourself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference. If you weren't after that then you would have just forum PMed spark and complained.

matt8891 · #7 06-22-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldbie

Would you just shut up? Your just trying to score points for this NEW PWA that they're hiring. Trying to make yourself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference. If you weren't after that then you would have just forum PMed spark and complained.

Heh....I think everyone wants that PWA spot...Especially me...But i live in the USA so i cant even tryout.

Xecutor · #8 06-22-2004, 04:27 PM

VT reupgraded and is not at all hard to reach (AIM, Forum, E-mail).

I've never had trouble contacting any PWA member when needed (Takes a day at most).

thrashsoul · #9 06-22-2004, 04:41 PM

They don't want americans. -_-

dlang · #10 06-22-2004, 05:21 PM

Timezones are irrelevant.
What matters is when you can be online.

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Originally Posted by Oldbie

Would you just shut up? Your just trying to score points for this NEW PWA that they're hiring. Trying to make yourself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference. If you weren't after that then you would have just forum PMed spark and complained.

I think Spark knows enough to not let such things as this influence his decission.

Malinko · #11 06-22-2004, 05:24 PM

PWA, fun. O_o, yeah, but Spark is the only one who does work. VT is useful and is always there if you contact him by AIM or e-mail. I won't start to get into the other one, but yeah. Oh yeah Thallen, Babylon is dead, who cares.

Darlene159 · #12 06-22-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

if you ask me spark does alot of work and he has exams..
VTs p2p ran out, or did he upgrade? :O
moongod was promoted to accounts admin but now has quit so spark might be new accounts dude

ugh
and houdinis... sparks said..

I wish you would get the correct info, or just not post about things

MG was NEVER accounts admin, that is the job he wanted, but they didnt want him...it is my understanding that another accounts admin will not be hired

As for MG quitting PWA and Graal...I have no comment

And as for this thread, it shouldn't have been started, that's what forum PM's are for

Malinko · #13 06-22-2004, 05:46 PM

Truthfully, globals help me with account problems more than any Accounts Admin could ever do O_o.

Spark910 · #14 06-22-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Truthfully, globals help me with account problems more than any Accounts Admin could ever do O_o.

Angel/Tyhm will have to do account related stuff now, i'd like to but won't get rights to, but there should still be an accounts admin just for account things if you ask me.

NeoJenova · #15 06-22-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Truthfully, globals help me with account problems more than any Accounts Admin could ever do O_o.

True, It took me 2 weeks to get an e-mail changed. The only global that I could contact or get in touch with was VT, and MG who told me he hadn't gotten his powers yet, and all VT could do was ask people. I finally had to get on Era and talk to Angel through PM in order to get an e-mail change.

Contacts and player relations seems very poor.

Loriel · #16 06-22-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

there should still be an accounts admin just for account things if you ask me.

Wait, were you not the one constantly arguing against that?

Reflux · #17 06-22-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

hmm well no one was contacted about this. But myself and Houdini are doing exams, although he finished a day or two ago, and I finish tomorrow

How dare you finish tomorrow :P I don't finish until next tuesday :'(

matt8891 · #18 06-22-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reflux

How dare you finish tomorrow :P I don't finish until next tuesday :'(

Dang...I finished mine a week ago.

Darlene159 · #19 06-22-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

Angel/Tyhm will have to do account related stuff now, i'd like to but won't get rights to, but there should still be an accounts admin just for account things if you ask me.

I agree there should be one, and someone who would be active.....MG was really looking forward to doing the job

Thallen · #20 06-22-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldbie

Would you just shut up? Your just trying to score points for this NEW PWA that they're hiring. Trying to make yourself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference. If you weren't after that then you would have just forum PMed spark and complained.

Alright. I don't know who you are, but I'm already starting to dislike you. I shouldn't have to go to Spark about problems like this, I thought the current PWA could be responsible. What major issues have the current PWA members really covered? I find it funny that when I IM HoudiniMan about an issue, he responds with "if you IM me again today, I will block you", but when his buddy Laslow IMed him was someone was on my Inphektid account, when my passwords were all stolen, he showed no hesitation in immediately getting it banned. I'm not trying to 'score any points', I am trying to set standards, and get opinions of others. 'Trying to make myself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference'? If I wasn't concerned, I wouldn't be posting this, nor would I be inclined to even apply for PWA. I'd appreciate if you never brought something like this on me again.

Loriel · #21 06-22-2004, 09:39 PM

So are a lot of people.

Scott · #22 06-22-2004, 09:44 PM

What happend to Lyndzey?

protagonist · #23 06-22-2004, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

I've come to see that, as far as I know, the only PWA that is really productive is Spark. Everyone else just deals with common player problems, and one of them, who I will not mention, aren't even good at that. I rarely even see them online. Playerworld Administrators need a new duty, they need to have the responsibility of actually playing playerworlds, which is something most globals don't have the chance to do, and stopping constant corruption from happening. Things need to be done about the greed and envy on Classic servers, it gets rediculous. Just last night, myself and a friend won the Babylon Tag-Team Spar Tournament and a player without a tag named "Oasator" comes into the spar and begins to attempt to PK me. I ran around, and he summoned me, slicing at me, proclaiming I was 'hacking' when he couldn't hit me, even though you become paused when you are summoned, because of the say2 message. Things like this get really annoying, and I think a lot of these things happen to me because I'm more of an outsider that plays Graal Kingdoms. What I'm saying is, PWA should be responsible for playerworlds when managers can't. Sometimes even managers can step out of line, y'know?

You can contact me fairly easily.

Milkdude99 · #24 06-22-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

What happend to Lyndzey?

I made mention to this here..

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...914#post979914

DarkShadows_Legend · #25 06-22-2004, 10:18 PM

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Would you just shut up? Your just trying to score points for this NEW PWA that they're hiring. Trying to make yourself sound concerned and make it sound like you can help and make a difference. If you weren't after that then you would have just forum PMed spark and complained

This is something that has been mentioned plenty of times in the past so what leads you to believe that his main intent of this thread is to score good points to become a PWA?

Crono · #26 06-22-2004, 10:47 PM

<Edit> No discussing bans, use forum pm's <Edit>

(I would pm but i'd rather just post it here so that I dont have to pm every single global -_-; )

zs0 · #27 06-22-2004, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

if you ask me spark does alot of work and he has exams..
VTs p2p ran out, or did he upgrade? :O
moongod was promoted to accounts admin but now has quit so spark might be new accounts dude

ugh
and houdinis... sparks said..

For the millionth time, Moongod wasn't accounts admin. Sorry if this has already been said, but I am too lazy to read through the whole thread.

dlang · #28 06-22-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

I find it funny that when I IM HoudiniMan about an issue, he responds with "if you IM me again today, I will block you", but when his buddy Laslow IMed him was someone was on my Inphektid account, when my passwords were all stolen, he showed no hesitation in immediately getting it banned.

I had this problem with him aswell =/, IMed him once and hes like "I'm soo off duty".
And he threatened to block me if I didn't stop talking to him.

Thallen · #29 06-22-2004, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

You can contact me fairly easily.

I've contacted you several times, and I think you are the best regular PWA member. You've handled problems I've asked of you, and I think it is about time that the rest of the team share the duties. By the way, are protagonist and Houdini the only PWA members?

Darlene159 · #30 06-23-2004, 12:26 AM

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By the way, are protagonist and Houdini the only PWA members?

yes, besides Spark
I too quit going to Houdiniman with stuff because of him getting angry, but what can you do?
I always go to Spark because he is normally the one on when I need PWA.

Milkdude99 · #31 06-23-2004, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

I've contacted you several times, and I think you are the best regular PWA member. You've handled problems I've asked of you, and I think it is about time that the rest of the team share the duties. By the way, are protagonist and Houdini the only PWA members?

Since I left yes they are besides Spark.

Crono · #32 06-23-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99

Since I left

you were the best pwa I had ever seen.

Thallen · #33 06-23-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

yes, besides Spark
I too quit going to Houdiniman with stuff because of him getting angry, but what can you do?
I always go to Spark because he is normally the one on when I need PWA.

I don't think he deserves to be a PWA if he can't control his own problems. I IM him, and instantly get "don't IM me again or you will be blocked"...

Scott · #34 06-23-2004, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

I don't think he deserves to be a PWA if he can't control his own problems. I IM him, and instantly get "don't IM me again or you will be blocked"...

Then spam his email saying "FINE I DIDN'T IM YOU I EMAILED YOU."

Crono · #35 06-23-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

"FINE I DIDN'T IM YOU I EMAILED YOU."

w0rd up mang scottmiester.

Thought · #36 06-23-2004, 03:45 AM

Can someone point me to the global rules for staff behavior?

I don't recall ever seeing anything like such, hence why I believe that 'corruption' is not an issue for the PWAs to handle. It is up to the administrator of the server to set the rules, I guess.

protagonist · #37 06-23-2004, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Thought

I don't recall ever seeing anything like such, hence why I believe that 'corruption' is not an issue for the PWAs to handle. It is up to the administrator of the server to set the rules, I guess.

The complaint we get 99% of the time is that the manager doesn't do anything, either.

P.S:The staff have to at least follow the ToS/User Agreement.

matt8891 · #38 06-23-2004, 04:40 AM

Ive been to alot of private/public playerworlds...On some cases, ive seen certain problems concerning the players, and the Manager has no idea what to do. If a player keeps asking the Manager for help or something he/she would just disconnect him/she..I think the Managers of Playerworlds should take a test in order to be Manager...= \...But they PAID for it i guess.

zs0 · #39 06-23-2004, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Thought

Can someone point me to the global rules for staff behavior?

I don't recall ever seeing anything like such, hence why I believe that 'corruption' is not an issue for the PWAs to handle. It is up to the administrator of the server to set the rules, I guess.

Just because you are staff doesn't mean you shouldn't have rules too

matt8891 · #40 06-23-2004, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zs0

Just because you are staff doesn't mean you shouldn't have rules too

Im hoping thats sarcasm...The Staff of a playerworld are supposed to be setting an example for players basically. If staff dont follow rules, and go corrupt. Imagine what players would be able to do. Its like Staff are the adults and players are the children kind of.