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Old 06-11-2004, 07:56 PM
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Playerworlds that Hire Staff

I am a little concerned on what is happening with playerworlds these days.
I know it may not be my buisness (sp?), but I am helping alot of servers out and am not liking what I am seeing.

When you hire any person, you should never give them a Chief, Asst. Chief or Admin position. I also suggest that you not hire developers but only promote people to those jobs. And you should NEVER hire someone to be your Manager or Asst. Manager even if you think you know them well. Again, make sure the person is familier with your goals and rules before promoting people to these jobs.

The only exception I would see to this is if you had previously worked with this person and seen how they work in a work enviroment. Having RC and a Job does not only depend on Scripting, Tiling or Graphics skill. It also requires maturity and respect. That means IF you get fired you DON'T decide to delete everything. I personly think you are 8 years old if you do this or deserve to be treated like so.

I am really tired of people PMing me or IMing me saying:
Person: "Can you script for me?"
Me: "Maybe."
Person: "Plz, I will make you Co-Manager."

This is just intolirable (sp?).
Oh and on a second note: It is Asst. Manager NOT Co-Manager.
Co-Manager means you are EQUAL with your OTHER Co-Manager and there is no one Manager but instead two of them.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:16 PM
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When you hire any person, you should never give them a Chief, Asst. Chief or Admin position. I also suggest that you not hire developers but only promote people to those jobs. And you should NEVER hire someone to be your Manager or Asst. Manager even if you think you know them well. Again, make sure the person is familier with your goals and rules before promoting people to these jobs
Yes,Thats partly true. If someone shows you great work from the start and that work is much greater than e.g(NAT Admin), you could make the guy a NAT Captain...See if he works and if he doesnt demote to NAT..Then fire.

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Old 06-11-2004, 09:30 PM
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I also suggest that you not hire developers
wtf ... ?
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:35 PM
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This is the stupidest thread i have ever seen on this forum.
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:41 PM
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Let em' do what they want, or let the PWA do their thang.
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Old 06-11-2004, 10:18 PM
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Yes, and while were at it, let's fire the staff we already have! Can't have people workin' for us after all!
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Old 06-11-2004, 10:22 PM
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This is the stupidest thread i have ever seen on this forum.
You do understand what he is saying, correct? Though I've never seen it, I'm certain there are people desperate enough for help that they make such bizarre offers like places high up in the chain of command. That's not the way to go and the people that do this shouldn't be trying to run a playerworld to begin with. I have had a couple people that I had hired some time ago being to start asking for more rights. Everytime I said 'no' because that is not what I hired them for. If someone is going to help me with Doragon, they will do what it was I hired them for unless they have skills to do both what I originally hired them for and the other task(s) they request.
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Old 06-11-2004, 10:53 PM
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He's only trying to tell the newbies running servers to-do's and DONT DO THIS *****S!

How is this the stupidest thread? It's informative. :/
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Old 06-11-2004, 11:01 PM
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You still need to fix your sig, zokemon. It's too long. This is the last courtesy warning from me before I direct a supermod towards you. The limit is 300px tall, and the text in your sig takes up more space than that.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:10 AM
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I agree with most points, but I also think playerworlds should be allowed to do whatever they want. Meh.
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:15 AM
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You do understand what he is saying, correct? Though I've never seen it, I'm certain there are people desperate enough for help that they make such bizarre offers like places high up in the chain of command. That's not the way to go and the people that do this shouldn't be trying to run a playerworld to begin with. I have had a couple people that I had hired some time ago being to start asking for more rights. Everytime I said 'no' because that is not what I hired them for. If someone is going to help me with Doragon, they will do what it was I hired them for unless they have skills to do both what I originally hired them for and the other task(s) they request.
Does Lance ask for help offering Co-Manager at Graal2001? Does Konidias ask for help offering Admin at Oasis? No. They need help but won't act that way because they are not stupids. That's why i said that this is a stupid thread.
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Old 06-12-2004, 06:35 AM
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This is the stupidest thread i have ever seen on this forum.
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wtf ... ?
He means not immediately, like a person having to be staff for certain ammount of time before being able to tryout for Dev since its a high position.
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:10 PM
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Uhm, so you rather have them work as GP or whatever before you let them develop stuff... ?
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Old 06-12-2004, 03:00 PM
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I agree with most points, but I also think playerworlds should be allowed to do whatever they want. Meh.
That would be fine IF you actually owned the playerworld but you don't own anything. Graal owns it all you are just renting the time and space to develop your ideas to see if they will work in a gaming enviroment.You people really need to realize you don't own anything on Graal, the money you pay for a server is "Rent" nothing more and doesn't scratch the surface of what it would take to own it. With this said, this is why you will NEVER be allowed to just do anything you want on a PlayerWorld because it is still a reflection of Graal , good or bad not you.
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Old 06-12-2004, 03:12 PM
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I disagree. Someone pays the rent, they should be left with all freedom they want. The part where your rules get into play is where you are the folks to decide whether something goes classic or not.
The GST does not go around UC PWs either and tells them to fix their script, they are only commented when the PW wants to go public.
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