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Old 04-30-2004, 06:00 PM
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i.e not helping people?, isn't my fault I didn't get an education is it?
Prooven my theory about GST doing nothing for no one unless their account name is stefan, rawr.
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Old 04-30-2004, 06:25 PM
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When Enigma was under review, Loriel and PS ran though all the scripts to check for security and npc server efficiency. I am not quite sure if that falls under nothing, because it seems to be something to me.
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Old 04-30-2004, 08:14 PM
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The GST does work. Their job is to make sure scripts are efficent and secure on servers.
Its impossible for them to go on every single server but if you contact Loriel he usually responds.
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Old 04-30-2004, 10:56 PM
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Fact is that you are talking about two persons, and there is more on the GST team... Sure maybe Loriel does work, I think I never said anything about that GST doesn't work. Atleast I havn't said anything about Loriel doing a bad job.

I just thinks that its stupid that some people feels that level making isn't special, or is to "easy" or to "common" so level makers that actually are good get no credit for that just "Yeah well there is others", one day there will be no more level makers that actually have some quality and isn't lazy bums.

Also, It still remains that level making can do the very same things as GST, its just in a different development area. What I have learned is that there is a lack of respect to level makers, you might think "No we respect them", but It doesn't sound like it. The way you act isn't right to us. We maybe doesn't need a global level team, I acept that. But what the hell? Since when did level making become a second hand job.
There is alot off servers that is in need of LAT's, do you know why they doesn't have any? Because it is actually not that easy to find level makers, atleast level makers that will work and put effort in it. Most have quit due the lack of "need".
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Old 04-30-2004, 11:57 PM
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I quit level making because of the lack of "inspiration"
I'd still like to help others on how to make things better though, but unfortunatly there is no global position for the profession I think counts more than others. Scripts & GFX useless without levels to put them in.
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Old 05-01-2004, 12:35 AM
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I quit level making because of the lack of "inspiration"
I'd still like to help others on how to make things better though, but unfortunatly there is no global position for the profession I think counts more than others. Scripts & GFX useless without levels to put them in.
This was explained already on why a Levels Global Team is not needed.
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Old 05-01-2004, 12:44 AM
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Graal can't be sued over levels etc. I know...

And unixmad doesn't want more Global RCs...
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Old 05-01-2004, 09:28 AM
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Graal can't be sued over levels etc. I know...

And unixmad doesn't want more Global RCs...
oms graal can be sued by scripts?!psata! (deletes all the stolen crap*)
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Old 05-01-2004, 04:36 PM
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And unixmad doesn't want more Global RCs...
Yet this R0bin fellow got one?

oh well its the same for playerworlds too right? No More Classic?
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Old 05-01-2004, 05:04 PM
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oms graal can be sued by scripts?!psata! (deletes all the stolen crap*)
Graal can be comprimised by script (ie hacked, cheated, security holes out the wazoo)

I think Kai stated this somewhere already, but that problem does not exist with levels.

Scripts can bog down the npc server, levels cannot

This is all just being repeated, do not let it go through your empty head this time.
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Old 05-01-2004, 07:39 PM
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unfortunatly there is no global position for the profession I think counts more than others. Scripts & GFX useless without levels to put them in.
Unfortunately, you could say the exact same thing about the other two departments.

Sorry, but no.
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Old 05-01-2004, 09:11 PM
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a script can clog up the npc server, i.e

if(created) timeout = 0.05;
if(timeout){
for(i=0;i<10000;i++){
sendtorc i;
}
timeout=0.05;
}

or something similar
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Old 05-01-2004, 10:21 PM
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Yet this R0bin fellow got one?
He deserved it.
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Old 05-01-2004, 10:31 PM
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Hi, global levels team is an excuse to be lazy and not make your own levels.

Any average person can read the tutorials and make a good level.

Graphics require a large measure of talent. You can't just read a tutorial and make a standard graphic, and if you did, you'd have to be able to make all sorts of things with that ability, not just a tree or bush.

Scripts require alot of mathematical coherence and logic which alots of players lack. It's not impossible to become mathematically coherent or logical, but it's alot harder than both graphics and levels because it changes a fundamental part of your life. Trust me. Learning to script completely changed how I did math, and I now get 96/97/98s because of it. It requires alot of dedication if you do not already have such tools available.

(By the way, I sort of dropped scripting once I heard about the new language so that I could take up C and get ready for it. So don't ask me to script for you, I haven't kept it up and do not remember alot of it outside of mathematics)
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Old 05-02-2004, 12:07 AM
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Hello... Guess who is back. Anyways I have talked to Stefan about this many times and he told me to get a team ready for a Global Level Team in which I did and we never talked further about it. I have talked to him on 2 occasions in which he loved the idea but that was as far as it got.
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