Global Development Team

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by Loriel

The GSTs that idle there are as well considered local staff, so this is not the right place to complain about that; further I am rather certain that they are less idling and more working on things beyond your view.

I thought you couldn't be staff when you're a global?

Originally Posted by Loriel

Local staff, you see. And, I would like how you are as well informed about what Lance is doing all day long.

Well because my brother is staff on Era and I hover around behind him?

Originally Posted by Loriel

I see not why I should be ashamed for being GST. I could probably do the same job without the tag / RC, and I have been doing it before GST was created, and I am still doing it, whether you recognize it or not, sorry.

What was the last server you helped? i've been helping servers, osrs has alot of people have. So why is there a GST if you can do it without RC?

Originally Posted by Loriel

There is an increasing amount of complaints about levels being stolen, that is true, but I think the GST or PWA can still handle that..

Hrmm, Do your own job and let spark and his team get on with his? and last time i asked you for help on the stolen levels you got me and the manager in a aim chat room whilst you left doing nothing but prevent the issue o.o

Originally Posted by Loriel

It is more complicated and significant for a playerworld's fate to teach someone scripting than it is to teach someone to make levels, and at least for copyright reasons it is more significant to have a graphics administration than it is to have a levels one. No random corporation is going to sue Graal because we use their levels, and also no attacker is going to use security problems in levels to cause problems...

Same for GST? I understand about GGT but what ever you have said about GST is the same as GLT but a different name

Originally Posted by Loriel

The GST was assigned a global RC so we can log in and appear official if I remember correctly, as we were originally not going to get a tag, which is also what you request so I give you that point. We have no significant admin rights, and we usually log only on a server if it is with former agreement with the staff anyway. Another nice reason for this is that all of us have been admins for a long time and eh, it does not hurt to have RC.
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You almost have level 4..
RC dosn't hurt, we don't need RC, You on the other hand do because of NC etc. But it'd help if you didn't idle on servers, angel did it like ETD said. We don't want global RC's to be known that we are official, just a tag would do, now what can that possibly hurt?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I thought you couldn't be staff when you're a global?

?
I do not know, I never signed such

Well because my brother is staff on Era and I hover around behind him?

Then replace yourself with him in my question.

What was the last server you helped? i've been helping servers, osrs has alot of people have. So why is there a GST if you can do it without RC?

I usually do not keep track, but coincidentally it was Zone, because it is running out of time and I like it.
Fine, remove the GST if you want. I think it is doing good to Graal, but eh, I am only one of those most involved with it, so how dare I challenge your opinion.

Hrmm, Do your own job and let spark and his team get on with his? and last time i asked you for help on the stolen levels you got me and the manager in a aim chat room whilst you left doing nothing but prevent the issue o.o

I am convinced and I hope that Spark and his team are doing the job, but they are not always neccessary I think. I was trying to get you folks to discuss it maturely but apparently I failed?

Same for GST? I understand about GGT but what ever you have said about GST is the same as GLT but a different name

As I said, levels hardly have security problems, and scripting is a finer science than level making

You almost have level 4..

I and the whole GST have level 1, that is averagely less than the PWA has.

RC dosn't hurt, we don't need RC, You on the other hand do because of NC etc. But it'd help if you didn't idle on servers, angel did it like ETD said. We don't want global RC's to be known that we are official, just a tag would do, now what can that possibly hurt?

More staff to manage, more potential problems, more admin rights to abuse, more complaints to handle, ...

[WanDaMan]

I do not know, I never signed such

You didn't have to I'm pretty sure the rules stated it.


Then replace yourself with him in my question.

How do you mean? all I did was just state he worked there


I usually do not keep track, but coincidentally it was Zone, because it is running out of time and I like it.
Fine, remove the GST if you want. I think it is doing good to Graal, but eh, I am only one of those most involved with it, so how dare I challenge your opinion.

Sure I'll just open my admin tools and delete it ( ). Wow wasn't that like last month when stefan was working on it? :O! conicidence!


I am convinced and I hope that Spark and his team are doing the job, but they are not always neccessary I think. I was trying to get you folks to discuss it maturely but apparently I failed?

Yes, by bringing up a useless point? wow so you help pwa out cutting them out of a job, carry on gst!

As I said, levels hardly have security problems, and scripting is a finer science than level making

have you ever made a decent level? try it. They have secruity problems like scripts, what can be stolen from them? the text? omg levels can get stolen!

I and the whole GST have level 1, that is averagely less than the PWA has.

You do? haha, i highly doubt that.

More staff to manage, more potential problems, more admin rights to abuse, more complaints to handle, ...

Procisely why I wouldn't like RC like you, what have you achived having rc, no I don't mean publicity, I mean something productive?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

You didn't have to I'm pretty sure the rules stated it.

Well, I am not anyway.

How do you mean? all I did was just state he worked there

How would he know about all the work Lance does?

Sure I'll just open my admin tools and delete it ( ). Wow wasn't that like last month when stefan was working on it? :O! conicidence!

Sorry for doing what Stefan's asks me to do?

Yes, by bringing up a useless point? wow so you help pwa out cutting them out of a job, carry on gst!

You fail to make sense. My point was that the PWA is still responsible for such issues but I tried to help. Sorry?

have you ever made a decent level? try it. They have secruity problems like scripts, what can be stolen from them? the text? omg levels can get stolen!

I like to believe I was quite decent with levels before I started scripting.
I do not see your point. A bad level, although sad, cannot cause someone to get 34101023 gralats and such possibly requiring a reset of the server, for example.

You do? haha, i highly doubt that.
Cool for you. Try using the RC you most likely have on some PW and check.

[quoteProcisely why I wouldn't like RC like you, what have you achived having rc, no I don't mean publicity, I mean something productive?[/QUOTE]
Many bugfixes and scripts.

[WanDaMan]

Stuff from Loriel
Well, I am not anyway.

I'm to lazy to get them, just like you and angel was to update my level on era

How would he know about all the work Lance does?

Because he asks Loriel for scripts and he declines or replys with the famous comment what GST members use
"I'll do it tonight"


Sorry for doing what Stefan's asks me to do?
Okay, well help me on my server I need scripting. Since you helped him because he helped you why in hell wouldn't other gst members help me?

You fail to make sense. My point was that the PWA is still responsible for such issues but I tried to help. Sorry?
you tried to help and you failed


I like to believe I was quite decent with levels before I started scripting.
I do not see your point. A bad level, although sad, cannot cause someone to get 34101023 gralats and such possibly requiring a reset of the server, for example.

no that's just idiotic scripting, but scritps can be implanted into levels right? using no-shield.gif or something?

Cool for you. Try using the RC you most likely have on some PW and check.
Because I'm not authorized?, and Hrmm I've seen markb with level 4 rc and he isn't gst so I guess you'd have level 4 considering he is only an events master on graal kingdoms

Many bugfixes and scripts.
Forgot idleing?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I'm to lazy to get them, just like you and angel was to update my level on era

What do you talk about?

Because he asks Loriel for scripts and he declines or replys with the famous comment what GST members use "I'll do it tonight"

This so makes no sense.

Okay, well help me on my server I need scripting. Since you helped him because he helped you why in hell wouldn't other gst members help me?

Some people ask in a much nicer way than you do.

you tried to help and you failed

What does that prove?

no that's just idiotic scripting, but scritps can be implanted into levels right? using no-shield.gif or something?

I am not talking about such malicious things, nothing but an admin checking what is uploaded can prevent this and that is not our job.

Because I'm not authorized?, and Hrmm I've seen markb with level 4 rc and he isn't gst so I guess you'd have level 4 considering he is only an events master on graal kingdoms

Do you not run your own PW? You are able to check whether I have adminlevel 4.
MarkB might have local level 4 rights on some servers, but that has nothing to do with the global adminlevel.

Forgot idleing?

You are so horribly stupid. You said productive, obviously to flame me based on your idea that I idle, and now you add idling to my list of productive things I do, thus making it a valid GST activity and breaking your flame. wtf.

Stop using italic font.

[WanDaMan]

What do you talk about?
I was just on Era, Pmed both you and angel, waiting around 10-15 minutes before logging off. I didn't want to wait for you to just idle around or what ever you was doing

This so makes no sense.
It makes perfect sence, If you ask a GST member for help you would normally get the reply
"tonight". ETD has said this aswell, I can get a whole server staff to say it if you want me to?

Some people ask in a much nicer way than you do.
I'm sick of being a goody 2 shoes, I'd rather be like this atleast now I'm not scared to say what I'm thinking. And once again, would you help me on my server?


What does that prove?
It prooves that you can't do other peoples jobs aswell as yours. And no, making an aim conversation dosn't resolve this like you thought


I am not talking about such malicious things, nothing but an admin checking what is uploaded can prevent this and that is not our job.
The admins don't though, I don't see PWA on servers going through them everymonth. I have to do it myself, it's such a shame that i'm curious? if i wasn't curious more levels would of been stolen.

Do you not run your own PW? You are able to check whether I have adminlevel 4.
MarkB might have local level 4 rights on some servers, but that has nothing to do with the global adminlevel.
MarkB uses lame RC hacks and then pays of globals, . And I do in some ways, I'm the lead developer. But my server is Magical Tux's. And MarkB is a global?

You are so horribly stupid. You said productive, obviously to flame me based on your idea that I idle, and now you add idling to my list of productive things I do, thus making it a valid GST activity and breaking your flame. wtf.
Just more facts that the GST do not do anything. I am stupid, like you waiting outside CyberJournes (or how ever you spell it) all day, haha! -don't lie a global told me this . I've prooven you idle because you didn't answer my PM on era, nor did you help my PM? NO.

Stop using italic font.
No.

Osrs is a great scriptor, he actually helps servers when you ask o.o, <3