Lets Destroy Levels!

[Satrek2000]

It's not about items - at least not that easy. It's not even the way some items are set as far as stats are concerned. Mithril is a good armour, and rare, yes. But what if you could craft one, using numberous gems, diamonds and so on? Prices would drop, everyone could have one in theory, and things will be a little more balanced. Will that change how people rp? Not at all.
I think making stronger items craftable at reasonable costs would balance things, as well as more event items - why not have more dragon ammys at reduced stats? With proper events and fitting stats, everything will be all right and smoothe out.
I'm still against a server restart. What good would it be? You can patch the system as it is, and you'll need to do so anyway. As it is now, playing is fun, at least for the Horn family, as we do not focus on pking. We live, yes, we level, too, but we also farm, craft, don't pk, and, most important, we do rp. All without event items.

I'm sorry, but leveling as well as equipment used does not affect the way you rp, no does it prevent you or encourage you. As they say, it's all in your mind.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Khallos_2k2
There are waaay to many event items out at the moment.

Actually, there are not. It's just that some players have 5 of them, and others none.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Satrek2000


I'm sorry, but leveling as well as equipment used does not affect the way you rp, no does it prevent you or encourage you. As they say, it's all in your mind.

This might be true today, but all these stupid items are still what -caused- the deterioration of RP. IMHO, they distracted people from what the server is really capable of and what was in it's blueprints. They encouraged people to go out and spend all day killing things than having fun and using the server to it's potential.

I played the christmas preview, all those years ago (the christmas before last, i think...), and then for a lil' while after the thing was released. I left 'cause of stat down and food depletion, but when i left, everyone had just come from 2k1 and the roleplaying spirit was still -stroooooong-. We all couldn't wait for the kingdom islands to come out so we could roleplay and have fun in our new castles. I left. When i came back, what was new? More monsters, more items, more weapons, more armours, and more ways of killing people. Oh, and RP was non-existant.

HMMMMMM

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
More monsters, more items, more weapons, more armours, and more ways of killing people.

More players. And that's what 'they' want.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by GoZelda

More players. And that's what 'they' want.

POOFARTS TO WHAT THEY WANT. ITS ABOUT WHAT I WANT.

And the point i was trying to make was that when the server started out, i would find it hard to believe (and very very saddening if it's true) that "the people" wanted more monsters and "pwning" tools than kickass stuff like forts and castles and Roleplay stuff. Before i left, that's all i wanted, and many others around me, mostly all kingdom members (back then, kingdom memmbers made up a damned large amount of the population =X)

[LaymanIX]

Well, I like RPGs, and therefore, I like levels, but a server reset sounds nice...

Oh, and yay for roleplaying. You be the distressed princess, ill the knight who rescues you and gets in the backseat with you.

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by LaymanIX
Well, I like RPGs, and therefore, I like levels, but a server reset sounds nice...

Oh, and yay for roleplaying. You be the distressed princess, ill the knight who rescues you and gets in the backseat with you.

I like your style...but i'm only playing the princess if i get to wear one of those pointy hats with the strip of silk or whatever that dangles from the top...o_o

[LaymanIX]

Only if you provide pictures.

[Zurkiba]

That 2 hp is still 2 hp...

Ranks are based on level, not RP skill.
RP Training isn't given to people with high levels
War is not equal.

It's that simple... RPing worked on 2k1 because everyone was the same.

[LaymanIX]

I dont know what you mean by war is not equal, but thats what kingdoms needs, WARS!

Think about it, you could give castles hp, so when an enemy hits it, it loses hp. And people could defend it.

[Satrek2000]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
It's that simple... RPing worked on 2k1 because everyone was the same.

This may be true, but that doesn't mean that rping can't work when you're all different. En contraire, it'd add more diversity.
As for ranks by level, that's a problem with the kingdom leaders - while I don't see the problem to any grave extend. If you don't have levels, ranks will be given to friends and relatives or whatever.

I agree that we could use a good war-system. Forts have been promised to us a while back, and in theory they'd add to rping.

[thelostviking]

My idea is:
let ea ew and such stuff cost 10k per piece and remove all enchants.
+ make a money reset.
i think than everyone will have the same chances again.
eventitems arent that much they have like 1 more dam and people cry out loud about that. x.x

[Monkeyboy_McGee]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

It's that simple... RPing worked on 2k1 because everyone was the same.

True. Very true. Although when it came to wars, it was just PKing...and noone obeyed the rules, everyone just went back to the fight after dying =/

Originally posted by LaymanIX

Think about it, you could give castles hp, so when an enemy hits it, it loses hp. And people could defend it.

Um, we already have these, they're called stone fortifications and such. And we've already been given the means to SCREW IT UP LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF THE SERVER. These means are of course earth to dust.

Originally posted by Satrek2000


As for ranks by level, that's a problem with the kingdom leaders - while I don't see the problem to any grave extend. If you don't have levels, ranks will be given to friends and relatives or whatever.

Nah. Who's saying this wont/doesnt/hasnt happened already on GK? Although, I certainly wouldn't promote someone unless i thought they'd be good for the job, and if i dont like them i don't like them for a reason. That reason would almost definitely be a sufficient one as to why they don't get promotions.

I can't remember a time when people got high ranks because they were buddies with the leaders way back on 2k1, and there were no such things as levels there. Just 110% more roleplaying than exists on GK o_o

[LaymanIX]

<i>they're called stone fortifications and such.</i>

But, uh, stone fortifications arent castles. I think.

[deman1171]

Heck Yeah!