GRAAL v3 !!!

[davidpsy]

Why doesnt stefan just come out with two versions? One version that has everything graal 3.03 will have only without the new guis and unresizeable windows (like graal 2.2) and one with it? This way everyone is happy.


Is the Crazy American right?!! (Me = crazy American)

[Spark910]

Originally posted by davidpsy
Why doesnt stefan just come out with two versions? One version that has everything graal 3.03 will have only without the new guis and unresizeable windows (like graal 2.2) and one with it? This way everyone is happy.

Because then he has to update 2 versions everytime and have bugs in just one version and it causes problems reporting bugs as people wont know which version they are using, or forget to included which one they are using, dragging the whole event into over-time.

[deman1171]

I just got V3 to work, i love it the playerlist is handy for in places like Val, although no history or profiles with it.
I like the idea of it having a more advanced GUI like this, and that's a good idea David one version that's like all classic and one more advanced.
You press Tab to use the chat menu BTW.
And the problem with that thing is that it's like a window, if it was full screen like other MMORPGS it would work.
Looks like Graal is going to be looking alot better and making GK The best

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Spark910


Because then he has to update 2 versions everytime and have bugs in just one version and it causes problems reporting bugs as people wont know which version they are using, or forget to included which one they are using, dragging the whole event into over-time.

Ok how about this in the options you can check and box and it will have the gui be like current graal 2.2 or you and uncheck it and it will be like the current graal 3.01. But this version no matter weather that box is checked or now would still support images over 256 colors and would still support and use both the new scripting and old scripting code + all the other new features I may be unaware of.

Originally posted by deman1171
I just got V3 to work, i love it the playerlist is handy for in places like Val, although no history or profiles with it.
I like the idea of it having a more advanced GUI like this, and that's a good idea David one version that's like all classic and one more advanced.
You press Tab to use the chat menu BTW.
And the problem with that thing is that it's like a window, if it was full screen like other MMORPGS it would work.
Looks like Graal is going to be looking alot better and making GK The best

Umm you know I'm Donald Shimoda right? Remember donaldshimoda22 from aim, Thats me.

[marcoR]

yea and the Neon Green on white PM's are legible... NOT.
Not being able to resize ruins it, completley.
That silly little mouse in the window is as accurate as a musket, and you SHOULD have the option to use normal, instead of musket-mouse.
I can live with playerlist in the window, but it sure is annoying.
There should be a sexy new icon. (tho that's not a must have )

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by marcoR
yea and the Neon Green on white PM's are legible... NOT.
Not being able to resize ruins it, completley.
That silly little mouse in the window is as accurate as a musket, and you SHOULD have the option to use normal, instead of musket-mouse.
I can live with playerlist in the window, but it sure is annoying.
There should be a sexy new icon. (tho that's not a must have )

I could make a new icon!! THE ONE ICON TO RULE THEM ALL!!!

[TheStivi]

Originally posted by Gerami
I've said it many times before and I'll say it again. I like Graal the way it is, changing it with this new stuff will change..everything. I hate the way you cant resize windows, I've been playing with windows stretched all the way up down left and right for 1 and a half years. X_x

On the end version of v.3 all the old stuff will be avaible too
i hope xD

[-Ramirez-]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Okay, that's one. Have you reported it to/discussed it with Stefan?

If only I had a way of contacting him. I don't know whether he reads forum PMs or emails.

[Lance]

Originally posted by -Ramirez-

If only I had a way of contacting him. I don't know whether he reads forum PMs or emails.

Forum PMs he reads. Posting it in the bugs reports forum wouldn't be an entirely bad idea either.

[Admins]

The old scripts still work with the scripting engine, its backwards compatible.
About the resizing: it's actually possible, just haven't got time to invest time on that (busy with 3d stuff and finishing the new scripting engine).

[-Ramirez-]

Not so much as a single thing about the coordinate inaccuracy problem?
It seems like my posts just get skipped over.

[TheStivi]

I think much scripts will be fixed because the new graal is in c++ and c++ is not so buggy
Delphi hmm suxx xD

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by TheStivi
I think much scripts will be fixed because the new graal is in c++ and c++ is not so buggy
Delphi hmm suxx xD

Ugh.

1) No language is inherently 'buggy' at all. The language in which the script engine is written will have no effect on the reliability of the scripts.
2) Delphi does not 'suck' -_-

[Lance]

How in the world he (Souldrinker/TheStivi) attempts to pass himself off as a scripter is beyond me. He tried to get a job at 2k1 by saying he scriped 'like Loriel but better' and 'better than Kaimetsu', and now I'm hearing he's telling people he scripts better than me. Hilarious, but pitiful.

[Loriel]

I suppose there is a reason for him being the only one that I have blocked on AIM and ICQ.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Ugh.

1) No language is inherently 'buggy' at all. The language in which the script engine is written will have no effect on the reliability of the scripts.
2) Delphi does not 'suck' -_-

He said not as buggy meaning it may still have bugs. The reason for this he may of ment is that c++ may be easyer to use for him and others then graal code. It may have more options thus making it easyer to use and "Less buggy" for others in that it would be easyer to use for them and they would make less mestakes.


Its sort of like humans languages in that lets say you take a person who knows english and try and teach him Japanese, Japanese is a much different language then english, it would/could be hard depending on the person in general. So if he was to learn Japanese he might make mestakes in writting/reading/talking after a while he may understand it perfectly he may not (Depends on the person). Now if you were to teach someone who knows english germen then it would not be as hard as teaching them Japanese because germen is alot like english. Thus he may make less mestakes (bugs) in his writting, reading, and talking.

Thats my 2 cents.

[Lance]

Originally posted by davidpsy


Thats my 2 cents.

It's a bit overpriced. You can't say that a spoken language is "buggy" either. Did you not read/understand Kaimetsu's post?

[TheStivi]

1. I never said im better than kaimetsu i said : I dont know him scripts but heard of them and i was wondering about them
2. Loriel .... You ignored me because a littel ****ing history facking guy has sent you faked historys
3. I dont mean that C++ is not so buggy like Delphi ... C++ and Delphi are unbuggy but in C++ you dont make so much bugs in engines like in Delphi. And Stefan makes all new ....
4. See ya xD i will play gamecube im back later

[Lance]

Originally posted by TheStivi
1. I never said im better than kaimetsu i said : I dont know him scripts but heard of them and i was wondering about them

Sorry, buddy, but you don't script better than any one of the GST members, let alone three of them.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Lance


It's a bit overpriced. You can't say that a spoken language is "buggy" either. Did you not read/understand Kaimetsu's post?

I dont think you understood my post. Some laguages are more easyer then others for certain people weather they are computer laguages or real laguages. Bug or mestakes will happen because 1 laguage may be harder or easyer for a certain person.

What I say saying was that, that person probably ment bugs as in bugs in scripts will happen less with c++ because more people know it better. Its like lets say you were to have 10 students that speak english write an essay in english. Now lets say you were to have 10 japanese students write an essay in english after having learned english as a second laguage. You would probably assume that the Japanese students after having just learned english as a second laguage would probably have more mestakes in their essays then the english students would. Seeing as how japanese is the japanese students first laguage they may not understand english as well as someone who knows english as a first laguage depending on the person. This is like computer laguage, alot of people know c++ more commonly then regular graal code. So people may make more mestakes as in bugs. So a language can be buggy depending on how hard it is to learn who is learning it and who is using it. It depends on the user and not so much the language it self.

[Lance]

Donald, if a language is called buggy, that implies that the language itself is buggy - it implies nothing else. If people mean something else, they should say something else. We can only respond to what people say.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Lance
Donald, if a language is called buggy, that implies that the language itself is buggy - it implies nothing else. If people mean something else, they should say something else. We can only respond to what people say.

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[Loriel]

Originally posted by TheStivi
2. Loriel .... You ignored me because a littel ****ing history facking guy has sent you faked historys

I exclusively ignored you for what you said directly to me. I was not sent intersting logs with you before I ignored you, anyways.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Lance


Sorry, buddy, but you don't script better than any one of the GST members, let alone three of them.

Worse than ProjectShifter? Wow. That's harsh.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Worse than ProjectShifter? Wow. That's harsh.

Umm I thought Project Shifter was a good scripter?

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by davidpsy
Umm I thought Project Shifter was a good scripter?

Only in his own eyes.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Only in his own eyes.

What about robin, hes good right?

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by davidpsy
What about robin, hes good right?

I don't know, it's been a long time since I saw anything of his (if I ever did).

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I don't know, it's been a long time since I saw anything of his (if I ever did).

Ive seen his work its very good, he works for me.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Worse than ProjectShifter? Wow. That's harsh.

I drew a picture, keep in mind the scale:



I don't necessarily know why, but the drawings seemed fitting.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Lance


I drew a picture, keep in mind the scale:

I don't necessarily know why, but the drawings seemed fitting.

Ooooo Make a graphic's ability and intelligence scale!!!

[Lance]

Originally posted by davidpsy




Ooooo Make a graphic's ability and intelligence scale!!!

There are of course exceptions to the graph (the word exceptional has a root somewhere ), but most people lie below the curve.

[TheStivi]

Originally posted by Lance


I drew a picture, keep in mind the scale:

I don't necessarily know why, but the drawings seemed fitting.

i stand over ps -.-
you made something wrong xD
*afk* looking woc(wok) wm xD

[Deek2]

I give Tseng a 10/10 on the graphics. !!!!

[adam]

Originally posted by Deek2
I give Tseng a 10/10 on the graphics. !!!!

Ok I can't help this now.

Hold on.. I'll translate what you just said to Tseng.


Let's look at the chart.


Now let's see wheres 10/10 graphics ability.

At the far right. Ok now where does that place his logic abilities.

Oh at the bottom! 0/10 logic!!

That translates into 0/10 logic. Very clever way of disguising your insults!!


Hehe, my graphics suck, so I guess I must be somewhat logical.

[Lance]

Originally posted by TheStivi


i stand over ps -.-
you made something wrong xD
*afk* looking woc(wok) wm xD

The harsh reality is that he is that many times superior to you as Kaimetsu is to PS. ^_^

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Lance


There are of course exceptions to the graph (the word exceptional has a root somewhere ), but most people lie below the curve.

I hope that is a joke because I am good at creating graphic's but this does not mean that my intelligence is low or that my ability to use logic or comprehend logical thought is at a finite.

[Lance]

Originally posted by davidpsy


I hope that is a joke because I am good at creating graphic's but this does not mean that my intelligence is low or that my ability to use logic or comprehend logical thought is at a finite.

Cmon man, you've got to know I'm not being completely serious here.

[Kaimetsu]

And he did say that there are exceptions.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Lance


Cmon man, you've got to know I'm not being completely serious here.

Yeah I was just sort of pulling your leg there.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
And he did say that there are exceptions.

So does that mean I'm an exception?