What program do you use?

Zethar · #1 10-20-2003, 03:00 AM

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DustyPorViva · #2 10-20-2003, 03:04 AM

MSPaint, except for saving.

Loriel · #3 10-20-2003, 03:08 AM

The Gimp, of course.

Scott · #4 10-20-2003, 03:15 AM

MS Paint for outlines and most coloring. Adobe for saving.

Kramer · #5 10-20-2003, 07:55 AM

PSP, MSPaint, The Gimp, Animagic, The photo editing software that came with my PC, that's about it.

Drakmith · #6 10-20-2003, 08:21 AM

Paintshop Pro 7, through and through :o

Nick1988 · #7 10-20-2003, 08:25 AM

Paint mostly [insert %100 MS Paint comment here], sometimes PSP 8 and Ulead Gif Animator 5.

davidpsy · #8 10-20-2003, 08:26 AM

Ms paint and Paintshop Pro 7.

Darenzo · #9 10-20-2003, 08:27 AM

Photoshop and MSpaint

HunterTerryon · #10 10-20-2003, 09:00 AM

Paint shop pro 7 its simply the best for doing pixel work the color selection is easy to use and you really have alot of choices down exactly what you want.Ms paint also works good for outlines.Thats pixel work

if your pixel work and don't want to pay for photoshop or psp your best bet is to use ms paint for outlines then get a nice freeware that has a good color selection and can convert to a format of your choice.

As far as 3d I use blender and I am learning 3dsmax.

Goboom · #11 10-20-2003, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Scott
MS Paint for outlines and most coloring. Adobe for saving.

zs0 · #12 10-21-2003, 01:22 AM

MSPaint for outline and coloring, and then PSP8 for shading and Jasc Animation Shop 3 for animating :o

marcoR · #13 10-21-2003, 01:32 AM

Paint for basic shape, and some time boredom.. and photoshop for detail

azuretek23 · #14 10-21-2003, 03:03 AM

I use photoshop and the imageready that came with it for animating...

I dont see why people use paint in the first place, the programs you guys mentioned have pencil tools that you can pixel with... in fact it ouwld be better if you pixeld in layers...

Scott · #15 10-21-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by azuretek23
I use photoshop and the imageready that came with it for animating...

I dont see why people use paint in the first place, the programs you guys mentioned have pencil tools that you can pixel with... in fact it ouwld be better if you pixeld in layers...

MS Paint
1. Click paint icon.
2. Select pencil.
3. Zoom in. (Select, leftclick goes in, right click zooms out all the way.)
4. Draw.

Adobe
1. Click adobe icon.
2. Wait a minute for it load.
3. Select new image, and spend time figuring out how big you want it.
4. Zoom in.
5. Draw.
6. Need to zome out? K right click and select zoom out.
7. Keep doing that.
8. Zoom in a bunch of times.
9. Save.

azuretek23 · #16 10-21-2003, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by Scott

MS Paint
1. Click paint icon.
2. Select pencil.
3. Zoom in. (Select, leftclick goes in, right click zooms out all the way.)
4. Draw.

Adobe
1. Click adobe icon.
2. Wait a minute for it load.
3. Select new image, and spend time figuring out how big you want it.
4. Zoom in.
5. Draw.
6. Need to zome out? K right click and select zoom out.
7. Keep doing that.
8. Zoom in a bunch of times.
9. Save.

adobe
1. open photoshop
2. new image, 500x500 all the time
3. draw

you added extra stuff that makes no sense...

DustyPorViva · #17 10-21-2003, 04:27 AM

I don't use the pen tool in MSPaint, I use the line tool.
In Photoshop the line tool doesn't show you exactly what kind of line your making.

azuretek23 · #18 10-21-2003, 05:12 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva
I don't use the pen tool in MSPaint, I use the line tool.
In Photoshop the line tool doesn't show you exactly what kind of line your making.

yes it does, even in the little indicator it says... there are lots of cool things like on the top right side there is a navigation window where you can zoom in on stuff but still see them big in there... its pretty cool for pixeling...

Scott · #19 10-21-2003, 05:19 AM

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Originally posted by azuretek23

adobe
1. open photoshop
2. new image, 500x500 all the time
3. draw

you added extra stuff that makes no sense...

1. Takes long.
2. Mine doesn't stay all the time, and what if I need something bigger later on?
3. If you dont zoom in to draw, wow. Must go pretty slow.

DustyPorViva · #20 10-21-2003, 05:24 AM

It doesn't show exactly what the line is going to look like though, it just shows a rectangular box estimating what the line will be.

In paint it shows you the exact pixel-to-pixel layout.

Bewitched · #21 10-21-2003, 06:19 AM

PSP7 O_o.

Scott · #22 10-21-2003, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva
It doesn't show exactly what the line is going to look like though, it just shows a rectangular box estimating what the line will be.

In paint it shows you the exact pixel-to-pixel layout.

Exactly, I feel that MSPaint is the best isometric drawing program to use.

azuretek23 · #23 10-21-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by DustyPorViva
It doesn't show exactly what the line is going to look like though, it just shows a rectangular box estimating what the line will be.

In paint it shows you the exact pixel-to-pixel layout.

maybe you just havent learned photoshop well enough to say that it isnt good for pixeling... anyway, whatever.. it's a matter of preference, but just because you dont want to spend time with photoshop to learn its features you dismiss it as something over complicated..

anyway, whatever... I'll just stick to my photoshop

Scott · #24 10-21-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by azuretek23

maybe you just havent learned photoshop well enough to say that it isnt good for pixeling... anyway, whatever.. it's a matter of preference, but just because you dont want to spend time with photoshop to learn its features you dismiss it as something over complicated..

anyway, whatever... I'll just stick to my photoshop

I actually didn't even know adobe had a line tool o_O
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LegendaryAzreil · #25 10-21-2003, 02:20 PM

PI8 > all
easy to use, many filters, gradient editing/styling stuff

DustyPorViva · #26 10-21-2003, 02:30 PM

Gradients and Filters are not good for pixel art, so I doubt I would even use that program if that's all it has.

Muha_builder · #27 10-21-2003, 03:36 PM

i use paint cause i dont know how to use programs like psp7 or photshop 6 (i have them trough)
But paint has never let me down before except for the saving part

GoZelda · #28 10-21-2003, 06:00 PM

MSPaint for drawing. Photo Editor for transparancy. Irfanview/adobe photoshop 6 for saving.

Photoshop is nice, but it is a photoshop. Really, all those fancy film posters are made with Photoshop.

azuretek23 · #29 10-21-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
MSPaint for drawing. Photo Editor for transparancy. Irfanview/adobe photoshop 6 for saving.

Photoshop is nice, but it is a photoshop. Really, all those fancy film posters are made with Photoshop.

that reasoning dosent make sense... you just said you use PHOTO editor for transperencies...

adobe photoshop has the tools to do everything you need, there is no reason to use multiple programs...

anyway, its probably that you guys think... it's used to make so many other things that its probably too complicated for pixeling... thats bullcrap... but whatever...

Muha_builder · #30 10-21-2003, 09:58 PM

i would like to learn how to use photo shop i just dont know where to begin

konidias · #31 10-21-2003, 11:51 PM

- msPaint for most pixelation
- photoshop for editing photos and drawing artwork (not pixel art)
- animagic for animating, setting transparencies, saving as gif
- hypersnapDX for snapshots, and for saving in pretty much any image format with any settings

I'm siding with the msPaint people here. Photoshop is worse than msPaint for pixeling. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the "color" on msPaint, you just double click a color box and you can select any color of the rainbow. I can usually just use the small palette of colors that it provides and just modify all the colors to the ones I want. That way they are all right there on hand.

Photoshop takes longer for me to load, I have to set the canvas size, the line tool doesn't predraw the line for viewing, although I think the ink dropper is better since you can select any color on your screen, even outside of the program (at least I think you can).

If you don't pixel shade then you are retarded. Unless you're going for a non-pixelized look. Because using the airbrush thing isn't true pixeling. It's a lot easier to shade when you have something like the airbrush that you can apply different pressure to, in order to give it a dark to light effect, but still, no airbrushed sprite is going to look better than one that was totally pixelized.

LegendaryAzreil · #32 10-22-2003, 01:05 AM

Photo Impact 8

Loriel · #33 10-22-2003, 01:43 AM

Why does no one of you use the Gimp? It is very simple to use as the more adavanced features are hidden in dialogs that you do not need to have opened, yet it has all the power one could need for pixel graphics.

azuretek23 · #34 10-22-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
Why does no one of you use the Gimp? It is very simple to use as the more adavanced features are hidden in dialogs that you do not need to have opened, yet it has all the power one could need for pixel graphics.

last time I used it, it crashed in the middle of a project and I lost everything... I was enraged and erased it from existence (er.. my PC)

Deek2 · #35 10-22-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
Why does no one of you use the Gimp? It is very simple to use as the more adavanced features are hidden in dialogs that you do not need to have opened, yet it has all the power one could need for pixel graphics.

What a rediculous question. Maybe no one wants to use it. There's tons of other programs out there that are alot better and easier to use then that.

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It is very simple to use as the more adavanced features are hidden in dialogs that you do not need to have opened

What an oxy*****. Most of the simple features I wanted to use I either had to dig through all of the toolbars and drop-down menus to get, or they didn't exist at all. You actually have to read the help file to understand some of this stuff.

Loriel · #36 10-22-2003, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2
What a rediculous question. Maybe no one wants to use it.

What a silly comment. Maybe I am asking for the reasons?

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There's tons of other programs out there that are alot better and easier to use then that.

I seriously doubt that.
I have not yet seen an alternative for the Gimp.

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What an oxy*****.

I would not simply call things I do not agree with oxy*****s.

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Most of the simple features I wanted to use I either had to dig through all of the toolbars and drop-down menus to get, or they didn't exist at all.

I was under the impression we were mainly talking about these programs use for pixelling. And still, the features are finely organized into dialogs.

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You actually have to read the help file to understand some of this stuff.

Oh my god. That, of course, is a reason not to use a program. I mean, if it has certain features that are so complex that they require documentation, of what use can the program itself be?

konidias · #37 10-22-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
Oh my god. That, of course, is a reason not to use a program. I mean, if it has certain features that are so complex that they require documentation, of what use can the program itself be?

Owned. Hahaha. Yeah they don't make readme files for nothing. It's not like they have help files and readme files because everyone but you is retarded and needs them.

Muha_builder · #38 10-22-2003, 04:03 PM