Enigma

Echoes · #1 09-29-2003, 10:56 PM

What do you think about that server Enigma? I personally think its looking really good. But I might be a little biased because im a LAT there. Go check it out, and post you thoughts here. We only have to fix a few more things like blank levels and whatnot, and we'll be ready for publication.

SingleChance · #2 09-29-2003, 11:09 PM

is Warcaptain still manager of enigma?

bo0ey · #3 09-29-2003, 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by SingleChance
is Warcaptain still manager of enigma?

If he isn't, Enigma won't be any good and
I wont play there even if it's the best. Warcaptain
is the original owner and should stay owner.

draco5432 · #4 09-29-2003, 11:50 PM

WC was a good owner, but J5 and SL run it now, and personally they are doing a great job, Im the GP Chief, so no hackers or whatnot are going to run free. The staff are great, and we are making awsome npc's, We will be going public soon.

-Sab

osrs · #5 09-30-2003, 12:04 AM

Looks very nice.

Ningnong · #6 09-30-2003, 12:21 AM

It looks okay. I don't see anything that makes me go "wow" or make me say any words I shouldn't.

But....hey...wait just a minute....

.... *discoveres wings npc*

OMG IM BATMAN!!!!!

*pulls out zipwire and flys away*

Nick1988 · #7 09-30-2003, 12:23 AM

Looking good, but I still think WC should be owner.

draco5432 · #8 09-30-2003, 12:25 AM

*Smack* WC is gone...and he isnt coming back!

ShadowLust · #9 09-30-2003, 01:01 AM

Well i can not say that WC was not a good Owner because he was but at some times he wasn't. WC was not open to players as i am plus i do my best for the server. In the end though I really can not say anything bad against WC. I am Co-Manager of Enigma now and ill try my best thank you
ShadowLust/SL

Spark910 · #10 09-30-2003, 01:07 AM

Its great, but you need more of it.
And fill some blank levels then it shall be ready for the public eye. As its alot like when WC did that Engima +Pandora thing, not lots has changed since he had some of those levels online a while back.

ShadowLust · #11 09-30-2003, 01:28 AM

Spark we have alot of towns Under Construction as we speak plus ones that are new that were never on Enigma before. We are fixing the spots that are open and making a few more quest as we speak. Im figuring 13 hearts/ lvl 3 sword maybe 4. I am expecting to have some Guilds on the server and there will be Guild wars daily. Enigma is gonna have jobs such as Fishing/Mining/and maybe Farming. Enigma of course will have events. Then you always have your basic pking for fun. Enigma will have npc's for players to play with plus i would like to make some type of errons on the server if players get bored. Enigma will not be all that boring I mean i don't think it will be the best server on graal lol but it will be ok.
Thank You:
ShadowLust/SL (Co-Manager) Enigma Graal

ShadowLust · #12 09-30-2003, 01:50 AM

Not to brag or anything but i get so many people asking me when Enigma gonna be public again and stuff. Players just want to be there again and I just want to give them what they want as best as i can and im sure J5 and the entire staff feel the same.

GhettoChild · #13 09-30-2003, 02:03 AM

Warcaptain had his chance and didn't show outstanding results, Let the new management get what they wanted done and then you can judge x,X

syltburk · #14 09-30-2003, 09:33 AM

wc quit graal in general+ i havnt seen ANY kind of development changes on enigma.

Spark910 · #15 09-30-2003, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by ShadowLust
Spark we have alot of towns Under Construction as we speak plus ones that are new that were never on Enigma before. We are fixing the spots that are open and making a few more quest as we speak. Im figuring 13 hearts/ lvl 3 sword maybe 4. I am expecting to have some Guilds on the server and there will be Guild wars daily. Enigma is gonna have jobs such as Fishing/Mining/and maybe Farming. Enigma of course will have events. Then you always have your basic pking for fun. Enigma will have npc's for players to play with plus i would like to make some type of errons on the server if players get bored. Enigma will not be all that boring I mean i don't think it will be the best server on graal lol but it will be ok.
Thank You:
ShadowLust/SL (Co-Manager) Enigma Graal

Thats cool, get it done for the end of October, and we can review your for opening. And if you complete it before then, just work on some other things too. Also make the quests interesting.

Cynicism · #16 09-30-2003, 11:25 AM

I'm just hoping that there are a lot of promising things to come of Graal.. I do plan to buy another account sometime soon, that is, if it seems worth it.

draygin · #17 09-30-2003, 10:29 PM

One question? Did Warcaptain give the ok for you guys to bring back the servers and be managment? If not then it shouldn't be allowed.

Lance · #18 09-30-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
One question? Did Warcaptain give the ok for you guys to bring back the servers and be managment? If not then it shouldn't be allowed.

I do believe that J5 was the last officially recognized manager - as he is involved in this project, it should be perfectly fine.

davidpsy · #19 09-30-2003, 10:35 PM

WC Is making his own online game called Enigma he might sue graal for this even though graal Enigma was before his game..

Lance · #20 09-30-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
WC Is making his own online game called Enigma he might sue graal for this even though graal Enigma was before his game..

That's funny. He can't win such a lawsuit, considering everything submitted to graalonline becomes property of graalonline.

ShadowLust · #21 09-30-2003, 10:52 PM

Yes WC was banned from Enigma KrayzieYang took over after that J5 was running Enigma with me right behind him and Guile also. Then Enigma went down and Enigma was bought there is no problem here. KrayzieYang was last manager of Enigma and he has no problem with us running it. Plus the server was paid for.

draygin · #22 09-30-2003, 11:45 PM

Ahh ok so J5 (I'm assuming Jaguar_5?) Was a manager I must have missed that as last I knew Warcaptain was the only manager of Enigma but it got taken down during the time I had temporarily quit graal.

draco5432 · #23 09-30-2003, 11:46 PM

Engima would have never been managed by KY, if Projectshifter whould have listented to me. The only reson KY got manager is because all the staff liked him.

He was not qualified at all.

Lance · #24 10-01-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by draygin
Ahh ok so J5 (I'm assuming Jaguar_5?) Was a manager I must have missed that as last I knew Warcaptain was the only manager of Enigma but it got taken down during the time I had temporarily quit graal.

Johnny_5, and he was in my opinion the most capable staff while KrayzieYang was manager.

ShadowLust · #25 10-01-2003, 01:30 AM

yes J5 is very good if I would have wanted anyone to be Manager I would pick J5. He does the best he can to make Enigma good. Good things will come of Enigma under J5.
Thank You:
ShadowLust/SL

DarkShadows_Legend · #26 10-01-2003, 02:07 AM

Everything looks the same as before except some of the old stuff is gone, and there is less content.

draco5432 · #27 10-01-2003, 02:11 AM

1. We go public with the old stuff, for the oldbies.
2. We make brand new stuff after we are public.
3. Dont judge just yet.

Python523 · #28 10-01-2003, 02:12 AM

WC was removed from manager by nemesis for refusing to take down tiles from another server or something to that effect

Nitkizi · #29 10-01-2003, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
Everything looks the same as before except some of the old stuff is gone, and there is less content.

Agreed, and the levels don't seem to be finished yet (or just arn't that good?). I guess we'll just have to wait another month when the stuff they are planning is finished. Good luck.

DarkShadows_Legend · #30 10-01-2003, 02:35 AM

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Agreed, and the levels don't seem to be finished yet (or just arn't that good?).

hmm. Well those levels aren't that bad. They could be better though. I like the design of the overworld so I guess that doesn't really make the levels look too bad from my point of view.

HoudiniMan · #31 10-01-2003, 04:06 AM

1. We go public with the old stuff, for the oldbies, and new stuff
2. We make more brand new stuff after we are public.
3. See #2

Hmm?

draco5432 · #32 10-01-2003, 04:16 AM

see thats the thing, we do have new stuff, its just spread out in the corners of enigma, and we are getting ready to put them in closer.

around the old stuff, people just dont look.

Spark910 · #33 10-01-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by draco5432
1. We go public with the old stuff, for the oldbies.
2. We make brand new stuff after we are public.
3. Dont judge just yet.

It doesnt work like that, as Houdiniman has pointed out. Why limit yourself to only having 'oldbies' when you could make new stuff now and get more when you open?

And you need alot of new things to be opened. We aren't going to open a playerworld that is just the same as it was when it was shut down.

davidpsy · #34 10-01-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lance

That's funny. He can't win such a lawsuit, considering everything submitted to graalonline becomes property of graalonline.

What?! So this means since Im making a playerworld I payed to get up and I upload my graphic it now belong to stefan and unixmad and I cant even say I own my own graphic?!!? wtf!! I'm paying to let Stefan and Unixmad legally own my graphic?

draygin · #35 10-01-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

What?! So this means since Im making a playerworld I payed to get up and I upload my graphic it now belong to stefan and unixmad and I cant even say I own my own graphic?!!? wtf!! I'm paying to let Stefan and Unixmad legally own my graphic?

If you upload it to graal then yes. However if you put all your graphics on your own site and make it available for download thats kind of a loop hole in the rules since its only things submitted to Graal Online that becomes property of Graal Online.

Not sure how well that would work but I think it would.

davidpsy · #36 10-01-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

If you upload it to graal then yes. However if you put all your graphics on your own site and make it available for download thats kind of a loop hole in the rules since its only things submitted to Graal Online that becomes property of Graal Online.

Not sure how well that would work but I think it would.

But they are my figures like they guy who made the simpsons he also did yellow submarine thats why he can have little yellow submarine hippi things in the simpsons. I payed for playerworld space They cant just own my graphic. I payed for it.

draygin · #37 10-01-2003, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

But they are my figures like they guy who made the simpsons he also did yellow submarine thats why he can have little yellow submarine hippi things in the simpsons. I payed for playerworld space They cant just own my graphic. I payed for it.

It's in the graal rules that once its uploaded with consent of the owner to upload it then it becomes the property of graal online. They can just own them because you upload them willingly to the server even with those rules stated.

davidpsy · #38 10-01-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

It's in the graal rules that once its uploaded with consent of the owner to upload it then it becomes the property of graal online. They can just own them because you upload them willingly to the server even with those rules stated.

Ok well they can have owner ship meaning they can use my graphic on my server meaning its a part of graal, but I will still bern all my graphic on a cd r thus giving it a perminate date of the graphic being mine. This way I still own it, I have proof of having owned it before it was ever uploaded. So its kind of like im not giving exclusive rights but they own it in a sence. I still own my server which is on graal with my graphic but they well you get it lol.

Python523 · #39 10-02-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

Ok well they can have owner ship meaning they can use my graphic on my server meaning its a part of graal, but I will still bern all my graphic on a cd r thus giving it a perminate date of the graphic being mine. This way I still own it, I have proof of having owned it before it was ever uploaded. So its kind of like im not giving exclusive rights but they own it in a sence. I still own my server which is on graal with my graphic but they well you get it lol.

1.) You don't 'own' your server, you are renting server space in which you put your stuff on

2.) A CD-R isn't any proof at all, I could easily set my computer date back twenty years, burn a graphic of the linux penguin or something like that, and claim they stole my graphic, so CD-Rs aren't valid evidence

Lance · #40 10-02-2003, 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

Ok well they can have owner ship meaning they can use my graphic on my server meaning its a part of graal, but I will still bern all my graphic on a cd r thus giving it a perminate date of the graphic being mine. This way I still own it, I have proof of having owned it before it was ever uploaded. So its kind of like im not giving exclusive rights but they own it in a sence. I still own my server which is on graal with my graphic but they well you get it lol.

There's this thing called 'transferring ownership'. When you upload a graphic, you do this.