Charm

UNPTWOPWINNER · #1 09-21-2003, 09:48 PM

Well, I decided to do quests again, and this time I'm getting 30 charm, since I get 26 already...so 4 keys should be nothing.

Well, I got my 26 charm ready, and checked on the selling price on some mushrooms, then I used the potion to get 27 charm, checked the selling price...and it was the same.

So in the end, I wasted a gold key and my time...and screenshot is proof I guess. Notice first sell price, then the "You seem to look better." message, then the same selling price.

DenoriZakarum · #2 09-21-2003, 09:51 PM

I heard before that if you have 30 grace things sell for less than when with 25 and buy for more, i tihnk its a bug, i dunno

UNPTWOPWINNER · #3 09-21-2003, 09:54 PM

I hope you mean charm there.

DenoriZakarum · #4 09-21-2003, 09:56 PM

yea, in my mind i was thinking about grace, i ment charm, sorry

Lance · #5 09-22-2003, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum
yea, in my mind i was thinking

Sure about that?

UNPTWOPWINNER · #6 09-22-2003, 03:26 AM

Back to the topic!
I want my gold key back or charm fixed ....or my sexyness will go to waste

Vixin · #7 09-23-2003, 03:29 AM

Three huge mushrooms... with 15 charm I get about that exact same amount, maybe it's just the item you tried...

Lance · #8 09-23-2003, 03:49 AM

Certain items (special quest items, gems) sell for the same no matter what charm you have. No refund is necessary.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #9 09-23-2003, 04:06 AM

Ok, here's a better example? 24 to 27 charm, no change.

Ignore the HAH of the file...I just randomly type names for screenshots.

Lance · #10 09-23-2003, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
Ok, here's a better example? 24 to 27 charm, no change.

Ignore the HAH of the file...I just randomly type names for screenshots.

How about changing charm while clicking on an _identified_ item? -_-

UNPTWOPWINNER · #11 09-23-2003, 04:59 AM

This better?

Matin · #12 09-23-2003, 06:22 PM

Have shopping?
I remember someone told me prices go up if you have high charme and shopping...

UNPTWOPWINNER · #13 09-23-2003, 10:38 PM

Yes, I do have shopping.
Now I've heard many things about shopping. Examples being:
1) Prices change, that's the obvious one
2) It adds 7 invisible charm

I don't know if 2 is true, but it would hold true here since my charm at 24 would be 30 from that invisible 7...but if it's not true then that wouldn't explain it?

Satrek2000 · #14 09-24-2003, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
2) It adds 7 invisible charm

I heard shopping was a kind of gamble, it can add or substract charm, and the more you have, the less likely it is that you get an addition through it...

UNPTWOPWINNER · #15 09-24-2003, 01:52 AM

Well it would be nice to know since everyone tells you to get shopping -_-
So two questions are out there:
1)What's with my charm?
2)What does shopping do?

graaliholic · #16 09-24-2003, 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
Well it would be nice to know since everyone tells you to get shopping -_-
So two questions are out there:
1)What's with my charm?
2)What does shopping do?

Maybe it's just your choice of items, or maybe your charm is already maxed out and you're not showing it which would explain why there is no change :P

Shopping lowers prices, my experience it seems like adding 2 charm

A quote from a certain CF website

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Most items will have a value based on their "standard" cost multiplied by a factor based on your charisma (see table primary stat effects). You can never look good enough that you can buy stuff then sell it at a profit.

Some notable exceptions to the above:

Gems will always be sold or bought 3% more or less their standard value.
For magic stuff value is 3 *(magic)^3 of standard value.
Unidentified items value is 2/3 of standard.

It could be possible some items were changed to the price is always the same, so that could be the reason too.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #17 09-24-2003, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by graaliholic

Maybe it's just your choice of items, or maybe your charm is already maxed out and you're not showing it which would explain why there is no change :P

...process inwhich I use to get 27 charm.
1 charm
cast charisam
6 charm
take off mithril
11 charm
take off sorigs which have cha-10
21 charm
2 RoBs
27 charm...

And here's two screenshots with a piece of food as proof...I don't know how else to prove this.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #18 09-24-2003, 10:29 PM

Here's second screenshot

zell12 · #19 09-24-2003, 11:17 PM

Already explained this in another thread. Shopping is a gamble, it will lower prices, keep them the same, or make them higher. If you have 30 grace, it won't make the prices any lower, so shopping makes them the same or higher.

graaliholic · #20 09-25-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER

...process inwhich I use to get 27 charm.
1 charm
cast charisam
6 charm
take off mithril
11 charm
take off sorigs which have cha-10
21 charm
2 RoBs
27 charm...

And here's two screenshots with a piece of food as proof...I don't know how else to prove this.

The game must really not like you. I get 24 cha and the price is over 1 plat per food last time I checked. And shopping isn't a gamble, because when I got it, prices only went down on what i was buying and up for what I was selling.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #21 09-25-2003, 02:27 AM

neither of those posts explain why my charm has no effects past 24 -_-

graaliholic · #22 09-25-2003, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER
neither of those posts explain why my charm has no effects past 24 -_-

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Originally posted by graaliholic
The game must really not like you.

That's all I can think of :|

UNPTWOPWINNER · #23 09-25-2003, 10:26 PM

Well since nobody knows, I'll throw out some ideas.

Maybe there's a price cap on items...which would defeat the purpose of 30 charm but?

I don't know, is anyone trying to figure this out? I'm still out of a gold key here...

skyler87 · #24 10-02-2003, 12:33 AM

Let me summarize this topic and end the confusion by stating that lord parts always sell for the same price, regardless of your charm. Try this method with another item, such as an IWD, and I think you will be surprised.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #25 10-02-2003, 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87
Let me summarize this topic and end the confusion by stating that lord parts always sell for the same price, regardless of your charm. Try this method with another item, such as an IWD, and I think you will be surprised.

Maybe if you tried my OTHER screenshots, you'd see I did it with a piece of food and a t-rex heart.

Try again.

skyler87 · #26 10-03-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by skyler87
Try this method with another item, such as an IWD, and I think you will be surprised.

UNPTWOPWINNER · #27 10-03-2003, 12:53 AM

What's there to be surprised about?
I buy improvement potions at 490 plat at 24 charm and 27 charm.

We've already confirmed it's not the items I'm testing.