Graal

killikk_dias · #1 08-13-2003, 07:45 PM

Graal is one of the WORST online games out there when it comes to bing friendly.

The forums is dictated by the people who have played long and think they are the best.

The game is horrible because a newbie has NO help besides the training. Oh wait, IT WAS REMOVED for a stupid demo of a 3D Level.

Stefan is the ONLY person with real high authority that will fix things, but nobody else can so its a constant fight over Hey, can you help me? Im not mad at him, he has done a good job but everyone else is who are ruining this game.

I put a rate thing in my profile with all the numbers 5, Why the hell should I get banned Kaimetsu? If you dont like it DONT CLICK IT.

Im sick of this game and im quitting. Im not posting this in the Goodbye-Hello forum because I want everyone to see how this game has gone to hell.

And if this thread is deleted, then it will show how nobody has their own REAL free speach on Graal.

Nobody will help anyone and this game is getting worse and worse to put it into a short version.

Goodbye Graal!
I hope you eventually get better....

brock128 · #2 08-13-2003, 07:45 PM

GOD I LOVE YOU

Qwert616 · #3 08-13-2003, 07:47 PM

Bye, have fun.

Wait, so you were threatened because you rated yourself five?

killikk_dias · #4 08-13-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616
Bye, have fun.

Wait, so you were threatened because you rated yourself five?

I hate a Rate Me thing in my signature and all the numbers were 5, as a joke, and Kaimetsu said Change it, remove it, or be banned.

Qwert616 · #5 08-13-2003, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

I hate a Rate Me thing in my signature and all the numbers were 5, as a joke, and Kaimetsu said Change it, remove it, or be banned.

Ah, alright. I just started reading the Terrain thread.

Meh, its been a rule for a while now. Its really no big deal to change it. :|

brock128 · #6 08-13-2003, 07:52 PM

What about all the other point he brought up? He's right. The graal comunity in terms of niceness, is the second worse community i've been to (worst: battle.net.)

Especially kai. How the heck did he get supermods?

Dude6252000 · #7 08-13-2003, 07:52 PM

Yeah, really. I love the fact he's calling Kaimetsu a dictator for following rules that he mostly didn't make.

brock128 · #8 08-13-2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
Yeah, really. I love the fact he's calling Kaimetsu a dictator for following rules that he mostly didn't make.

He can enforce the rules without being a complete ass. (EDIT: Strange, ass + hole is censored, but not just ass? STRANGENESS)

I miss alk

killikk_dias · #9 08-13-2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

Ah, alright. I just started reading the Terrain thread.

Meh, its been a rule for a while now. Its really no big deal to change it. :|

I know. Its just being banned for it is like dictation of my signature. If the higher people dont like it, they can simply say "The rating thing in your profile is not allowed. Please change it or remove it if you dont plan on changing it." or something nice.

killikk_dias · #10 08-13-2003, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
Yeah, really. I love the fact he's calling Kaimetsu a dictator for following rules that he mostly didn't make.

Kaimetsu is a dictator of Graal..*cough*scripting*cough*

Dude6252000 · #11 08-13-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Kaimetsu is a dictator of Graal..*cough*scripting*cough*

The hell does scripting have to do with anything in this situation?

killikk_dias · #12 08-13-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

The hell does scripting have to do with anything in this situation?

Its another thing he dictates...
But scripting in general has nothing to do with this.

Qwert616 · #13 08-13-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
What about all the other point he brought up? He's right. The graal comunity in terms of niceness, is the second worse community i've been to (worst: battle.net.)

I agree, Graal's general community really isn't a good role model.

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

Its another thing he dictates...
But scripting in general has nothing to do with this.

What, you mean the KSI-GS?

killikk_dias · #14 08-13-2003, 07:58 PM

Example of the community:
Newbie: Hi. I am new to Graal, could you help me?

EITHER:
Oldbie: *pks newbie*
OR
Oldbie: F*** off n0obie.

Qwert616 · #15 08-13-2003, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Example of the community:
Newbie: Hi. I am new to Graal, could you help me?

EITHER:
Oldbie: *pks newbie*
OR
Oldbie: F*** off ****.

Not everyone does that though. I usually help people.

killikk_dias · #16 08-13-2003, 07:59 PM

Never mind the Kaimetsu..I guess I just added him because I was mad at his PM. But the other points of graal are what I want to point out to other graal players.

Dude6252000 · #17 08-13-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Example of the community:
Newbie: Hi. I am new to Graal, could you help me?

EITHER:
Oldbie: *pks newbie*
OR
Oldbie: F*** off n0obie.

That's their fault for not asking a FAQ or staff, as well as not reading the readme and stuff to find how to open the playerlist and stuff. They're asking PKers, not oldbies. Some oldbies, like me, actually like to help newbies sometimes.

-EDIT- Change your signature if you're not mad at kaimetsu.

brock128 · #18 08-13-2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

That's their fault for not asking a FAQ or staff, as well as not reading the readme and stuff to find how to open the playerlist and stuff. They're asking PKers, not oldbies. Some oldbies, like me, actually like to help newbies sometimes.

How does a newbie know what a PKer is?

And it doesn't matter. It's not their fault for asking a question and getting killed for it. If getting killed was their fault, then I must have hacked everybody's credit card for all the times I've been PKed without provoking them.

Think -> Post

killikk_dias · #19 08-13-2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

That's their fault for not asking a FAQ or staff, as well as not reading the readme and stuff to find how to open the playerlist and stuff. They're asking PKers, not oldbies. Some oldbies, like me, actually like to help newbies sometimes.

No newbie wants to get a new game, and have to read tons of readmes. (and most dont)

Oldbies will PK.

And thats great you help people, but it wont help the rest of the graal community. You cannot stop a bunch of 7-8 year olds from being @ssholes.

Qwert616 · #20 08-13-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

No newbie wants to get a new game, and have to read tons of readmes. (and most dont)

Then maybe that's the problem right there.

Dude6252000 · #21 08-13-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
How does a newbie know what a PKer is?

And it doesn't matter. It's not their fault for asking a question and getting killed for it. If getting killed was their fault, then I must have hacked everybody's credit card for all the times I've been PKed without provoking them.

Think -> Post

Oh boy. Ryan, don't start a flame war with me. You used to be cool, now you're using the "Think -> Post" thing on me. Just because you don't like how I think doesn't mean you have to pull this.

And I sort of agree with that post. The "Think -> Post" thing ticked me off though. :[

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
No newbie wants to get a new game, and have to read tons of readmes. (and most dont)

Then they're taking a risk of being insulted.

Neoreno · #22 08-13-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
You cannot stop a bunch of 7-8 year olds from being @ssholes.

Then don't set examples for them.

killikk_dias · #23 08-13-2003, 08:07 PM

Bah. I just want to to show people how bad the Graal community is. If you have more points of why you hate graal deep down inside you, post them. I dont care if im banned. I hope my reasons and maybe some other peoples will influence people and show them how bad Graal really is.

brock128 · #24 08-13-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000

Oh boy. Ryan, don't start a flame war with me. You used to be cool, now you're using the "Think -> Post" thing on me. Just because you don't like how I think doesn't mean you have to pull this.

And I sort of agree with that post. The "Think -> Post" thing ticked me off though. :[

Meh, sorry. I think I've been hanging out on battle.net too much

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ctrl-v

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Originally posted by Qwert616

Then maybe that's the problem right there.

Not really. I tend to learn better if sombody explains it to me or by toutorials, not a boring old readme.

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Originally posted by Neoreno

Then don't set examples for them.

I don't think he's the pking type >_>

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Bah. I just want to to show people how bad the Graal community is. If you have more points of why you hate graal deep down inside you, post them. I dont care if im banned. I hope my reasons and maybe some other peoples will influence people and show them how bad Graal really is.

Heh, what do you think i'm doing?
Not to mention all the good servers (classic and 2k1) were abandonded for a BAD clone of a BAD game. (kingdoms)

killikk_dias · #25 08-13-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Neoreno

Then don't set examples for them.

I personally dont. I log onto some classic servers and im just tired of asking someone for help and they kill me, then parade around going OWNED when I have no chance.

And I am not a PKer.

brock128 · #26 08-13-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
I personally dont. I log onto some classic servers and im just tired of asking someone for help and they kill me, then parade around going OWNED when I have no chance.

Hah, that reminds me of wc3. There's a stupid tactic you can use if you're losing. It's called hiding the farm. Basically, if you've got no hope, then you hide some insignificant building (farm, burrow... etc.) So people have to go around and find a hidden thing. It's mostly to annoy people. However, if you've got a lot of forces, then it's kind of handy, if both sides are eating eachother's base. But most people use it for greifing. And if people leave in frustration, sick of finding the farm, people who tend to do this say stuff like "I OWNED YOU." Even though they really didn't.

Why do I play wc3 again?

Qwert616 · #27 08-13-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
Not really. I tend to learn better if sombody explains it to me or by toutorials, not a boring old readme.

A player saying "Press F7 to open the player list" isn't much different from a readme saying "F7 - Opens up Player List".

I can understand asking people about certain aspects of a server, help starting off with quests, etc.

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Bah. I just want to to show people how bad the Graal community is. If you have more points of why you hate graal deep down inside you, post them. I dont care if im banned. I hope my reasons and maybe some other peoples will influence people and show them how bad Graal really is.

This is probably just going to be deleted or closed. It will do little, if anything.

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Originally posted by brock128

Hah, that reminds me of wc3. There's a stupid tactic you can use if you're losing. It's called hiding the farm. Basically, if you've got no hope, then you hide some insignificant building (farm, burrow... etc.) So people have to go around and find a hidden thing. It's mostly to annoy people. However, if you've got a lot of forces, then it's kind of handy, if both sides are eating eachother's base. But most people use it for greifing.

Why do I play wc3 again?

They fixed that in Frozen Throne. ^_^

killikk_dias · #28 08-13-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

This is probably just going to be deleted or closed. It will do little, if anything.

I will repost and if im banned, Then I will exploit the horrible community all over the internet. I want to leave Graal peacefully and still show the graal players what I have learned about the community over the years of playing

brock128 · #29 08-13-2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616

A player saying "Press F7 to open the player list" isn't much different from a readme saying "F7 - Opens up Player List".

I can understand asking people about certain aspects of a server, help starting off with quests, etc.

True, but still, I usually skip over the readme. I expect a toutorial to tell me things like this (And a toutorial did, but they just replaced it with that stupid 3d thing)

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This is probably just going to be deleted or closed. It will do little, if anything.

Welcome to Mother Graal, comrade!

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They fixed that in Frozen Throne. ^_^

To some extent. Now it's hide-the-townhall. That or find-a-mine-and-overtower...

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Originally posted by killikk_dias
Then I will exploit the horrible community all over the internet. I want to leave Graal peacefully

Let's controdict ourself IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH

killikk_dias · #30 08-13-2003, 08:17 PM

Oh, I got one more thing to say...

How come everybody needs to know what someone is doing?
People mass the dumbest things like:

Someone (Some:Time)
Mass Message:
Yeah I gotta poop i hope none of you miss me

Someone (Some:Time)
Mass Message:
im gonna eat so hold all your pms. Yeah I know i have to leave for a little while. dont cry.

people mass everythign they do :-P

Snakeandy7 · #31 08-13-2003, 08:20 PM

He banned wan for being an idiot, well making typo's :/
Should make a server for ****ie's to the game

!, Dosnt really matter there is about 100 new free server's i'm sure 1 out of that wont really matter :o

Qwert616 · #32 08-13-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by brock128
Welcome to Mother Graal, comrade!

In the same effect though. This will do very little if it was left open and not deleted.

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To some extent. Now it's hide-the-townhall. That or find-a-mine-and-overtower...

Yeah, but it is a step in the right direction

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

I will repost and if im banned then I will exploit the horrible community all over the internet. I want to leave Graal peacefully and still show the graal players what I have learned about the community over the years of playing

Yeah, good luck with that.

brock128 · #33 08-13-2003, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Qwert616
Yeah, but it is a step in the right direction

VERY small step.

Neonight · #34 08-13-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

I will repost and if im banned, Then I will exploit the horrible community all over the internet. I want to leave Graal peacefully and still show the graal players what I have learned about the community over the years of playing

Hahaha. You're a *****. I just thought you might like to know that.

killikk_dias · #35 08-13-2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight

Hahaha. You're a *****. I just thought you might like to know that.

Your another example of the bad community

Zurkiba · #36 08-13-2003, 08:32 PM

Graal is player made. Hardly anything is acually made by the GAT staff (Game Administration Team).

So Graal is the offspring of people like you.

When you insult Graal you insult yourself.

Neonight · #37 08-13-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba
Graal is player made. Hardly anything is acually made by the GAT staff (Game Administration Team).

So Graal is the offspring of people like you.

When you insult Graal you insult yourself.

I could've sworn GAT stood for Graphics Administration Team.

Anyway, I don't believe I'm a mad member of the community if I can spot obvious idiots.

brock128 · #38 08-13-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba
Graal is player made. Hardly anything is acually made by the GAT staff (Game Administration Team).

So Graal is the offspring of people like you.

When you insult Graal you insult yourself.

No. Because he made nothing. If you made somthing, you're mostly insulting other's work. I, nor him, nor you, nor anybody personally made all of graal.

SaijinGohan · #39 08-13-2003, 08:47 PM

There is no real readme to graal. If you install a clean copy of graal, in the folder you see tons of text documents. You have to actually look hard to find the readme, if you assume there is one. The game training is for gk, there needs to be an option where you can train 'Classic Graal' or 'Graal Kingdoms'.

konidias · #40 08-13-2003, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by killikk_dias

I will repost and if im banned, Then I will exploit the horrible community all over the internet. I want to leave Graal peacefully and still show the graal players what I have learned about the community over the years of playing

This is the wrong way to go about solving problems. Now you're just outright making threats. If you're banned, it will be with good reason. Do you realise how many people have "quit" Graal, and posted "I'm going to tell everyone this game is horrible!"? Your word is going to have little to no impact on people. Furthermore, by going around telling everyone about Graal, you're only advertising it.

Don't go making threads like this every time you get your undies in a bunch over something that happened on Graal. It's pointless, it really is. Your opinion isn't everyone's opinion, therefore your thread is nothing more than an outlet for you to bash Graal, on the forums of Graal, in front of paying Graal customers. Which will more than likely get you banned.