A New Governor - Page 2

GoldSri · #41 08-08-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

An example of my criticism would have been helpfull to respond to this. If you're referring to the situation with that First Mate, I brought up the problem because I was hoping to bring it to the attention of the members online at the time. This way, perhaps something could be done about it.

I already knew, what i meant was you could have been more constructive in saying..if she done this it would help, i can help etc
but you just said she was rubbish at RP and should have never been chosen...everybody needs a chance because people dont wake up one day and know RP

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

Well, I do find it to be quite hard to understand you at times. An example is this poll. You say "a person who has not been active for a while" in one of the options, yet you don't make it clear as to what this person has not been active in (GK? CP?). And the first option is a question. The poll itself should be a question. You greatly lack organization.

The poll has that name because it gets peoples attention, the not been active question..well its kinda obv if its in the G2K under pirates thats what it is relative too

if you dont understand the poll you must seriously lack good reading skills and common sense

TifaKhan · #42 08-09-2003, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tseng

I'm sorry to hear that - as you already know, I have a great respect for you as a manager and as a person. I witnessed firsthand how much you care for that server when I worked there as a member of your GP team for a short time. While you may not think its owners care, they do - they just are so very busy. They really need to find/hire someone else to help out.

Simple answer: ban them. If they only come there to harrass you, ban them. If they are staff, and were fired, and call you abusive names, ban them. You're too kind to people sometimes.

Servers that allow this need to be dealt with. When things like this happen, complain to Lyndzey, Spark, Angel, or myself (would have included Houdiniman but for some reason he dislikes you), and we can see about getting something done.

Don't leave because of the bad...Things'll be worse for the rest of us...

Thank you Tseng, i also respect you a lot, i can only imagine from being a Manager what it must be like for you.
I did ban that particular person yesterday, and when he came back on another account abusing me again, i was forced to ipban him.

I still believe Misty should be given a chance because like me, she has stuck with CP through everything, even through the bad times, she stood beside me.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #43 08-09-2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by GoldSri

I already knew, what i meant was you could have been more constructive in saying..if she done this it would help, i can help etc
but you just said she was rubbish at RP and should have never been chosen

It would be more appropriate for me to give advice if the problem wasn't as bad as it was. The problem I saw was her having a high rank when she obviously shouldn't have (because of the whole RPing problems I stated earlier). I told people that there's a problem. You obviously knew she had much to learn. I surely hope you wouldn't prefer if I told you how to do your job by telling you to see to it that she has a lower rank since she still has a lot to learn.

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Originally posted by GoldSri

everybody needs a chance because people dont wake up one day and know RP

I don't have too much of a problem with you being so nice as to give people chances (teaching people can be a good "investment" for the group as a whole), but there is a ranking system. Again, it should be used for situations such as this, by giving the person an appropriate rank. First Mate was/is not one.

TifaKhan · #44 08-09-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

It would be more appropriate for me to give advice if the problem wasn't as bad as it was. The problem I saw was her having a high rank when she obviously shouldn't have (because of the whole RPing problems I stated earlier). I told people that there's a problem. You obviously knew she had much to learn. I surely hope you wouldn't prefer if I told you how to do your job by telling you to see to it that she has a lower rank since she still has a lot to learn.

I don't have too much of a problem with you being so nice as to give people chances (teaching people can be a good "investment" for the group as a whole), but there is a ranking system. Again, it should be used for situations such as this, by giving the person an appropriate rank. First Mate was/is not one.

I think Misty understands this now. I too have made mistakes in my time on Graal, we are only human, the main thing is, that we learn from them.

I still think with help she would be a wonderful Governor for CP.
If i were more interested i would ask to take over.
But being Manager of a server is stressful enough for me.

As it is, if she should be made Governor i would help her as much as i possibly could.

I'm not saying this because she is a girl, even though i do believe girls are not given a fair chance on Graal, i have had to fight for everything i have.But my own experience shows that we can do it, not everything has to be male dominated.

As i also said before, Misty has stood beside me through good times and bad, under threat of being removed from CP even.
(yes at one stage we were mutining(sp?) because we disagreed with something.But we werent alone on that, and we went on.
We have worked hard to try make it great.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #45 08-09-2003, 08:49 AM

Discussion of our current situation doesn't seem to be as active as it should be. We need something to be done.

As Tseng said, Ghost Pirate has been talking about how he doesn't like the current member list of the Crescent Pirates. I think I'd do be good for the job of Governor. If I'm chosen, I'll even have a friend (and an old friend of GP's) by my side who's just as obesessed with RPing as I am. He's the one who brought me to Pirate Crew, and just came back to GK after a leave just about as long as GP's. You see, people may want CP to have a self-voted governor, but if the governor himself believed that the member list needed much improvement, it is pointless to let people choose the governor democratically unless of course you would like more problems.

Geno · #46 08-09-2003, 08:56 AM

we cannot do ANYTHING right now because stefan is not back yet.
i am thinking that ghost will tell stefan who he wants as gov and that will be that.

FireFly20 · #47 08-09-2003, 09:03 AM

Well here is what i think on this whole ordeal. I think Tifa or misty or I should be king. The reason i have not been on lately is becasue i was told some dirogatory remarks insulting my inteligence by 2 high ranking poepl in CP so i back off kingdoms for from being active, Becasue the remqarks that where made made me fell like i was not help when tifa recruited me and misty all put my blood sweat in tears in CP and all i get trashed by 2 high ranking officals. ! i can forgive becasue i talk to the person now but the other i may not forgive and better not insult me again. The 2 people kn0ow who they are. Also thank tifa i tried my hardest but if i am not wanted in CP someone speak up now and all i have done fore cp i shall leave and it shall come with me where ever i go if i am not wanted in CP and i know for sure there are people that do not want me to go. Well that is all i have to say right now.

TifaKhan · #48 08-09-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by FireFly20
Well here is what i think on this whole ordeal. I think Tifa or misty or I should be king. The reason i have not been on lately is becasue i was told some dirogatory remarks insulting my inteligence by 2 high ranking poepl in CP so i back off kingdoms for from being active, Becasue the remqarks that where made made me fell like i was not help when tifa recruited me and misty all put my blood sweat in tears in CP and all i get trashed by 2 high ranking officals. ! i can forgive becasue i talk to the person now but the other i may not forgive and better not insult me again. The 2 people kn0ow who they are. Also thank tifa i tried my hardest but if i am not wanted in CP someone speak up now and all i have done fore cp i shall leave and it shall come with me where ever i go if i am not wanted in CP and i know for sure there are people that do not want me to go. Well that is all i have to say right now.

I did mention at one stage that it was just you,me and misty that worked so hard to build it up.
I wasnt sure what had happened to you Robin and i apologize for not mentioning you more.
Ok ive been thinking about it, and yes, it should be one of us three.
I dont know any other person who has worked so hard, or cared so much as us three.
As i am Manager of a server i did say i dont think i could handle the stress but if Stefan so wishes and Ghost Pirate doesnt want my help, i would be willing to take over for awhile but only to help build up and train someone to take over fully.
Or on the other hand if Misty or Robin were to take over i would assist them as much as possible.
If he (Stefan) chooses someone thats only been in the kingdom 4 days now, then i give up.

FireFly20 · #49 08-09-2003, 09:19 AM

Well I have not seen in my eyes anyone else other then us 3 put are heat in soul in it and i agree with you 100 percent with everything.

Tseng · #50 08-09-2003, 12:39 PM

In the interestes of helping the Pirates get back on their feet the fastest:

Ghost had this to say:

"We have a problem here, the Governorship of Pirates was once voted, but it turned to be a one man race and nobody exactly voted anyways. After that whole voting and democratic governorship Crescent Pirates went into the trashcan. As I see it, you all
have two options: 1) Vote on a select few that I CHOOSE for next governor 2) Allow myself to choose the most quailified out of the lot. It all starts off the same way it just ends differently. I've been watching this thread since it was started, and its turned into a struggle for power. This is how it goes, I want any and all canaidates to email [email protected] the following things:
Account name:
Roleplaying Name:
Roleplaying background:
What roleplaying games you've played:
How long for each game:
Complete this phrase: Go take a long walk _________.
What is Monkey Island:
Have you experienced Monkey Island:
What is grog:
Name the islands Crescent Pirates control:
Have you ever led a online gaming guild:
If so what was it called and what game was it for:
If you were to goto a shipyards looking to buy a ship
how exactly will you go about buying the ship?:
If five is four and three is five what is six?:
What was Red Rum?:
What is your best interest in Crescent Pirates?:
Do you know all the Crescent Pirates rules and laws?:
Crescent Pirates will be most famous for:
You will be most famous for:
Ghost Pirate was most famous for:
Do you like long tests?:
And finally
What in the bloody hell makes you think you can ever become a greater Governor than Girum Rivclaw?

Please include the questions with the answers. I will have my Post Slaves reply with the information on each Canaidate aswell as who they are...For now, choose which governor choosing method. -Ghost Pirate"

Borgie · #51 08-09-2003, 02:58 PM

I'd prefer option 1

TifaKhan · #52 08-09-2003, 04:59 PM

Ok
I just want to say this.
I have never claimed i could be better than Ghost Pirate, i never even knew him before i joined CP.
What i know is present time.
I came to Kingdoms, joined CP, loved it, i was on everyday in tag, and after awhile people were saying, why do you stay, your the only one on tag.
I stayed because to me it seemed disloyal to leave.
Eventually Nate made me Lady and gave me rights to recruit.
I recruited Robyn and Misty and together we worked hard to build CP up.
Ghost comes back, Nate makes him Governor, he makes me some God awful title of Bureaucrat because Lady didnt sound *pirate* like. I thought Bureaucrat belonged somewhere else personally.
Anyway i gave him the key to the warehouse and everything Nate, Me,Misty and Robin had built up.
Now it seems we are all being pushed away.
Those questions are stupid and i refuse to do it.
What are you famous for Ghost? Because speaking of present time, to us three your famous for making us attack someone we were allied with who couldnt fight back because their leader wasnt online to remove the allyship.
You threatened to remove us from CP if we didnt attack.
And then to add insult to injury you left me and Misty to be killed while you sailed off.
Hail the Governor of Crescent Pirates. :grrr:

GoldSri · #53 08-09-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by TifaKhan
Ok
I just want to say this.
I have never claimed i could be better than Ghost Pirate, i never even knew him before i joined CP.
What i know is present time.
I came to Kingdoms, joined CP, loved it, i was on everyday in tag, and after awhile people were saying, why do you stay, your the only one on tag.
I stayed because to me it seemed disloyal to leave.
Eventually Nate made me Lady and gave me rights to recruit.
I recruited Robyn and Misty and together we worked hard to build CP up.
Ghost comes back, Nate makes him Governor, he makes me some God awful title of Bureaucrat because Lady didnt sound *pirate* like. I thought Bureaucrat belonged somewhere else personally.
Anyway i gave him the key to the warehouse and everything Nate, Me,Misty and Robin had built up.
Now it seems we are all being pushed away.
Those questions are stupid and i refuse to do it.
What are you famous for Ghost? Because speaking of present time, to us three your famous for making us attack someone we were allied with who couldnt fight back because their leader wasnt online to remove the allyship.
You threatened to remove us from CP if we didnt attack.
And then to add insult to injury you left me and Misty to be killed while you sailed off.
Hail the Governor of Crescent Pirates. :grrr:

If nobody worthwhile like tifa, robin or I (people who helped to get it where it is now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I will leave because I will feel i have wasted my time trying to help..because im sure as heck nobody will appreciate what we have done....especially Ziro as this thred seems to be pick on what misty can do wrong

Zurkiba · #54 08-09-2003, 10:35 PM

Vote Zurkiba as leader and we can conquer the world! Again... o.o

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #55 08-09-2003, 11:58 PM

Option 2 sounds much better in my opinion. It uses more of his judgement.

TifaKhan · #56 08-10-2003, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
Option 2 sounds much better in my opinion. It uses more of his judgement.

Why, we already know your his friend and he's going to pick you no matter what we do.
Once again Misty and i will mutiny.
You become Governor because your his friend, i quit CP.
What have you done for CP?
Big Fat Zero.
All i've seen you do is flame CP members who have busted their guts to try make it better.
And i'm guessing that day Ghost forced us to attack people who couldnt fight back then left us to die, you would have been beside him wouldnt you.
Friends to the end eh?

Borgie · #57 08-10-2003, 04:19 AM

Its absolutely the same situaton samurai was in...
Shogun was gone and wanted MKSLAYER as new shogun cuz he was his friend...
Even if Hamada, Neon and me worked so hard trying to bring Samurai back to live...
Things got worse everyday I only stayed cuz I thought it was unloyal to leave. Well... Hamada does not play kingdoms very often since this happened and after being treat like dust I also left Samurai...... (I missed the kingdom and the members so I returned some days ago)

But do you really think this has to happen to CP now?
Why cant we start learning from our mistakes?

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #58 08-10-2003, 09:14 AM

Well, since you all seem to care so much. I'll just tell you. GP and I aren't really close friends as you all seem to think we are. We're not even long-time acquaintances.

TifaKhan · #59 08-10-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Borgie
Its absolutely the same situaton samurai was in...
Shogun was gone and wanted MKSLAYER as new shogun cuz he was his friend...
Even if Hamada, Neon and me worked so hard trying to bring Samurai back to live...
Things got worse everyday I only stayed cuz I thought it was unloyal to leave. Well... Hamada does not play kingdoms very often since this happened and after being treat like dust I also left Samurai...... (I missed the kingdom and the members so I returned some days ago)

But do you really think this has to happen to CP now?
Why cant we start learning from our mistakes?

Because they dont want to, because history has a habit of repeating itself , because humans are greedy ,i can give you a lot of reasons.

As ive stated i wont fill out Ghosts stupid application because i dont claim to be as <Great> as the Governor who forced us to fight defenseless people for the simple reason that he didnt like them, and threaten to remove us if we didnt, then leave us to die.

This is the person that gets to pick the new Governor?

psht

He was one of the reasons i stopped playing, there was no honour in what he/we did.

DragonX · #60 08-10-2003, 12:30 PM

Are you KIDDING me? Ghost has lead Pirate Crew/Crescent Pirates into greatness. He created Pirate Crew about 2+ years ago on 2k1. He has ALWAYS lead, he never had a replacement. I trust his judgment and know he will do the right thing. I was in PC for a LOOOONG time until the point where Ghost quit GK and I left too because no one else could lead as great as him. He came back though but I was in Forest and I wanted to rejoin but I didn't want to be unloyal to the kingdom. If you do not know Ghost Pirate, that is not our fault, he is the only kingdom leader that stayed through all the hardships. You should of SEEN how many times the leaders of each kingdom switched while Ghost Pirate remained CP leader. We were all powerful at one point, Ghost, Bonecrusher, others and I, we sailed onto another kingdom island and wooped ass and usually came out victorious. That was when CP was at it's strongest! CP isn't really CP without Ghost Pirate

GoZelda · #61 08-10-2003, 01:01 PM

Don't worry, Cyrilin family will take over CP anyway.

TifaKhan · #62 08-10-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
Don't worry, Cyrilin family will take over CP anyway.

Can i get a house next to my sisters on zormite? lol
(theres an empty spot)

GoZelda · #63 08-10-2003, 01:41 PM

What does that has to do with taking over CP?!

TifaKhan · #64 08-10-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Are you KIDDING me? Ghost has lead Pirate Crew/Crescent Pirates into greatness. He created Pirate Crew about 2+ years ago on 2k1. He has ALWAYS lead, he never had a replacement. I trust his judgment and know he will do the right thing. I was in PC for a LOOOONG time until the point where Ghost quit GK and I left too because no one else could lead as great as him. He came back though but I was in Forest and I wanted to rejoin but I didn't want to be unloyal to the kingdom. If you do not know Ghost Pirate, that is not our fault, he is the only kingdom leader that stayed through all the hardships. You should of SEEN how many times the leaders of each kingdom switched while Ghost Pirate remained CP leader. We were all powerful at one point, Ghost, Bonecrusher, others and I, we sailed onto another kingdom island and wooped ass and usually came out victorious. That was when CP was at it's strongest! CP isn't really CP without Ghost Pirate

1)I didnt say it was my fault i didn't know Ghost Pirate back in the *good old days* all i have to go by is what i knew when he came back.
2)I offered to get him back but so far no reply.
3)The rumours are abounding of him making his friend Governor in his place when this friend has been in CP for a few days.

syltburk · #65 08-10-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda
Don't worry, Cyrilin family will take over CP anyway.

yep

lol omg i have forgotten to take away my Zormite tag on forums

i left them for CP a half year ago

Zurkiba · #66 08-10-2003, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX
Are you KIDDING me? Ghost has lead Pirate Crew/Crescent Pirates into greatness. He created Pirate Crew about 2+ years ago on 2k1. He has ALWAYS lead, he never had a replacement. I trust his judgment and know he will do the right thing. I was in PC for a LOOOONG time until the point where Ghost quit GK and I left too because no one else could lead as great as him. He came back though but I was in Forest and I wanted to rejoin but I didn't want to be unloyal to the kingdom. If you do not know Ghost Pirate, that is not our fault, he is the only kingdom leader that stayed through all the hardships. You should of SEEN how many times the leaders of each kingdom switched while Ghost Pirate remained CP leader. We were all powerful at one point, Ghost, Bonecrusher, others and I, we sailed onto another kingdom island and wooped ass and usually came out victorious. That was when CP was at it's strongest! CP isn't really CP without Ghost Pirate

AND THEN! We formed the Eastern Allaince

... making the power even more great because we had three level 12s (Which was God-like back then)

GoldSri · #67 08-10-2003, 06:49 PM

Curious question here...but if Ghost really cared and knew what was best for the kingdom, surely he would have sorted out a Governor by now and not let the kingdom go to ruins like it is now....I can be on tag for ages and i'll be lucky if i see 1 other person on tag the whole time

GoZelda · #68 08-10-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

AND THEN! We formed the Eastern Allaince ... making the power even more great because we had three level 12s (Which was God-like back then)

Dammit, i felt so screwed when i became lvl.11 on rexes only, and then maps were released...

Zurkiba · #69 08-10-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by GoldSri
Curious question here...but if Ghost really cared and knew what was best for the kingdom, surely he would have sorted out a Governor by now and not let the kingdom go to ruins like it is now....I can be on tag for ages and i'll be lucky if i see 1 other person on tag the whole time

Acitivty doesn't mean you can be a great leader.

Selecting someone who will not ruin your work is a hard decision.

GoldSri · #70 08-10-2003, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

Acitivty doesn't mean you can be a great leader.

Selecting someone who will not ruin your work is a hard decision.

I never said that.......i have also done a lot of work for CP before Ghost came back so i dont want it ruined either...he would have had only one active member if it wernt for tifa, robin and i

GoZelda · #71 08-10-2003, 10:25 PM

Nope. neither does level means your a great leader.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #72 08-10-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by GoldSri
but if Ghost really cared and knew what was best for the kingdom, surely he would have sorted out a Governor by now and not let the kingdom go to ruins like it is now

I don't think there's anything that can be done. Didn't you read what Geno said? We have to wait for Stefan.

Valder · #73 08-10-2003, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

I don't think there's anything that can be done. Didn't you read what Geno said? We have to wait for Stefan.

All she cares about right now is getting the position so she can "make the kingdom better"

GoldSri · #74 08-10-2003, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

I don't think there's anything that can be done. Didn't you read what Geno said? We have to wait for Stefan.

there are other who can do it, it wont be stefan who changes it..Ghost will tell somebody else to do it

GoldSri · #75 08-10-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Valder

All she cares about right now is getting the position so she can "make the kingdom better"

and at what point did i say that

Valder · #76 08-11-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by GoldSri

and at what point did i say that

You aren't saying it directly but you are insinuating it.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #77 08-11-2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by GoldSri

and at what point did i say that

Double-posting is not very polite if you havn't noticed.

TifaKhan · #78 08-11-2003, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Valder

All she cares about right now is getting the position so she can "make the kingdom better"

And ziro doesnt?

Misty,Robin and I are the only ones who were working to make the kingdom better, then Ghost comes back, makes us attack our allies who couldnt fight back, or be removed from CP,then leaves us to die.

Ziro has been in the kingdom a few days and you can tell from his posts that he wants it too.

Whether its for power/glory or whatever who knows.

Its not a case of who wants it in my eyes, its a case of who has the maturity/wisdom and ability to do their best for CP as a whole and not just for themselves.

And until proven otherwise i dont believe a friend whose been in it for 5 days is worthy.

Misty,Robin and I have proved we cared.We stuck around , we worked hard, through good times and bad.

Anyway i hope in the end that Stefan gets to choose, i will be a lot more comfortable with his choice personally.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #79 08-11-2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by TifaKhan

And ziro doesnt?

Doesn't want to make the kingdom better? Of course I do. The difference is that Valder was obviously showing sarcasm in his message while I'm serious about wanting to make Crescent Pirates be a lot stricter to be known as the place for people to go to RP. This is so people will not have to put up with ignorant people who use inappropriate nicknames with an RPing tag and freely talk OOC on their RPing nickname while nothing is done about this. This is common all around GK right now. I hope to bring us one big step closer to improvement by at least having one kingdom completely free of RP disruption.

TifaKhan · #80 08-11-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec

Doesn't want to make the kingdom better? Of course I do. The difference is that Valder was obviously showing sarcasm in his message while I'm serious about wanting to make Crescent Pirates be a lot stricter to be known as the place for people to go to RP. This is so people will not have to put up with ignorant people who use inappropriate nicknames with an RPing tag and freely talk OOC on their RPing nickname while nothing is done about this. This is common all around GK right now. I hope to bring us one big step closer to improvement by at least having one kingdom completely free of RP disruption.

One question, why CP?

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