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Old 08-07-2003, 10:01 AM
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Ugh, it's always difficult to explain the concept of standards to new programmers.

That was one of the more stupid remarks which I've seen of yours.

You have no clue about my past in programming and my knowlege in it. Just because you are a ***** jackass doesn't mean act like one 24/7.

I've programmed for years, so you can take that stick and shove it you know where.

And thiso.strings already have a preset use, as Jagen stated, so what you're saying is completely retarded, just like you.

Grow up, get a life, stop acting like you're better than everyone else, because you're not...you're a worthless POS with no friends. G'day sir.
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Old 08-07-2003, 10:04 AM
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I don't find it more logical at all, simply because of the fact that serverside, this. strings don't exist for the client, therefore using a this.string makes sense, since they only set on the active npc, and the npc that is getting the player, is the active npc
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Old 08-07-2003, 10:15 AM
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That was one of the more stupid remarks which I've seen of yours.

You have no clue about my past in programming and my knowlege in it.
Well, okay. Either you're a new programmer or you're an old programmer who never learned anything. Better?

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And thiso.strings already have a preset use, as Jagen stated
Indeed they do; specifying that the strings to be accessed are those of the active NPC. Just as they do in Trevor's script.

Now, would you like to continue this debate with some maturity or are you going to continue to resort to pathetic flaming?

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I don't find it more logical at all, simply because of the fact that serverside, this. strings don't exist for the client, therefore using a this.string makes sense, since they only set on the active npc, and the npc that is getting the player, is the active npc
All you're establishing is that it isn't necessary to use thiso.strings. Do you disagree with the statement that it promotes uniformity?
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Old 08-07-2003, 10:30 AM
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All you're establishing is that it isn't necessary to use thiso.strings. Do you disagree with the statement that it promotes uniformity?
I don't see the point of uniformity, I tend to use thing for the purpose of what they are created for, if you set a thiso.string on an npc that isnt getting another npc, it'll convert the thiso. to this., so I find it rather pointless to set it as a thiso. string, since thiso. was created for the purpose of accessing strings on the npc the is calling the active npc
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Old 08-07-2003, 10:31 AM
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Well, okay. Either you're a new programmer or you're an old programmer who never learned anything. Better?

Again, how do you know ANYTHING of my history? By what we're discussing you can't even BEGIN to say I know knowing about programming.

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Indeed they do; specifying that the strings to be accessed are those of the active NPC. Just as they do in Trevor's script.
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thiso strings are only used when you are getting another NPC in a with statement, no point in using them when you get the player, since you can't save a this.string to the player serverisde, it will save to the npc.
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Now, would you like to continue this debate with some maturity or are you going to continue to resort to pathetic flaming?
Now we both know if we go back and look at our conversations on these forums you are the one who started with the immature and pathetic flaming....so it's only immature and pathetic when I do it? Hypocryte...
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Old 08-07-2003, 10:41 AM
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Again, how do you know ANYTHING of my history? By what we're discussing you can't even BEGIN to say I know knowing about programming.
One's ability can often be inferred from the statements they make. Such is the case here.

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Now we both know if we go back and look at our conversations on these forums you are the one who started with the immature and pathetic flaming....so it's only immature and pathetic when I do it? Hypocryte...
Not really...he made one nonspecific comment about your programming ability (and the lack thereof), which launched you into some immature flaming of Kaimetsu. His statement, which you appear to consider a flame, was stating a point. Your response was, as he said, immature. It had no point, other than to flame.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:00 AM
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One's ability can often be inferred from the statements they make. Such is the case here.
Go read what was said again, because you're mistaken. What was said in no way shaded any light into my programming history.


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Not really...he made one nonspecific comment about your programming ability (and the lack thereof), which launched you into some immature flaming of Kaimetsu. His statement, which you appear to consider a flame, was stating a point. Your response was, as he said, immature. It had no point, other than to flame.
Again, go read back. He did more than make one nonspecific comment, and it wasn't just to me...

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Stop being an idiot
Idiotic, idiotic, idiotic
Stop being stupid
Grow up. I dismiss your idiotic arguments so......
you suck as a programmer and as a thinker
....you're a blinkered idiot
...demonstrate your ignorance...
...makes you look all the more stupid
But naw, he didn't do it but once....

And read that post again, it did have more of a point than just to flame...though I admit, about 50% of it was just flaming him.

And, well Frankly, I dismiss anything you have to say for the simple fact that you're already pissed for a stupid reason. When that crap with Nem was going down you came on Delt's RC saying you were going to put a script up to prevent 'em from going on RC or some crap....and we told you you couldn't put it up, but you could pm it to Riot or myself and you refused. We asked you not to touch any NPC's on the server just as a safety precaution, and you did...so I d/ced you and you got all upset and vowed never to help Delteria again....Actually I think it's hilarious that you got so pissed over us taking safety precautions.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:02 AM
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I don't see the point of uniformity
Then you have a lot to learn.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:05 AM
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Then you have a lot to learn.
Because he uses things for their created purpose? If that's the case, 99% of programmers have a lot to learn.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:14 AM
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Go read what was said again, because you're mistaken. What was said in no way shaded any light into my programming history.
Follow your own advice. Read what was said. You did not understand the benefits of uniformity.

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And, well Frankly, I dismiss anything you have to say for the simple fact that you're already pissed for a stupid reason. When that crap with Nem was going down you came on Delt's RC saying you were going to put a script up to prevent 'em from going on RC or some crap....and we told you you couldn't put it up, but you could pm it to Riot or myself and you refused. We asked you not to touch any NPC's on the server just as a safety precaution, and you did...so I d/ced you and you got all upset and vowed never to help Delteria again....Actually I think it's hilarious that you got so pissed over us taking safety precautions.
I'm not pissed. In fact, I have found it quite humorous that you failed to comprehend such a basic principle as set IP ranges in global RCs, or that an NPC could crash an RC. In fact, if you were in such disbelief that that could occur, why would you have had such a problem with me adding it in such a time of need? That is rather self-contradictory, wouldn't you say?

Additionally, your scripting knowledge is far below par, as was illustrated once again on N-Pulse when you failed to acknowledge the insecurity of control-npc triggeractions and in fact removed about an hour or two's worth of work by removing the logging system I had created for them. It was logging such insecure triggeractions so the levels which called it could be located and remedied. [sarcasm]But no, you are the all-knowing all-wise god of scripting, and you are always right. [/sarcasm] You, sir, are as Kaimetsu said, and as you have illustrated time and time again, an idiot. Thus, when I witness you making a fool out of yourself, I will point and laugh, as it is frequently funny to watch fools putting their ignorance on parade.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:29 AM
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I'm not pissed. In fact, I have found it quite humorous that you failed to comprehend such a basic principle as set IP ranges in global RCs, or that an NPC could crash an RC. In fact, if you were in such disbelief that that could occur, why would you have had such a problem with me adding it in such a time of need? That is rather self-contradictory, wouldn't you say?

Additionally, your scripting knowledge is far below par, as was illustrated on N-Pulse when you failed to acknowledge the insecurity of control-npc triggeractions and in fact removed about an hour or two's worth of work by removing the logging system I had created for them. It was logging such insecure triggeractions so the levels which called it could be located and remedied. [sarcasm]But no, you are the all-knowing all-wise god of scripting, and you are always right. [/sarcasm] You, sir, are as Kaimetsu said, and as you have illustrated time and time again, an idiot. Thus, when I witness you making a fool out of yourself, I will point and laugh, as it is frequently funny to watch fools putting their ignorance on parade.
You say you're not pissed, yet you vowed never to help Delteria again? Makes a lot of sense.

You're right, I fail to realize basic principle as set IP ranges in glrobal RC's, just like how I fail to realize the possibility of changing those IP ranges.

And the fact is, I didn't want any global touching anything unless I knew for a fact of who they were. I asked you nicely not to touch any NPC's on Delteria, yet you couldn't handle such a simple task. You sir are even more ignorant than you claim I am.

And yes, I'm far below par. I'm lucky if I could script a sparring zone! And for what happened on NP, well, a good portioin of it revolved around the fact that I initially didn't like you. As you noticed, once Jagen went on RC there I was prefectly fine with it. And if it two you one or two hours to put in that SIMPLE logging system then you must be the most slow typer even to exist. That's 5-10 minutes worth of work...Have I ever declared myself the "God" of scripting, like Kai thinks he is? Absolutely not, in fact time and time again I've straight out said I'm not the best, nor close to.

I do enjoy you calling me an idiot though, it amuses me. It also amuses me how you can manage to be a complete *****, yet continue to call others the same.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:31 AM
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But naw, he didn't do it but once....
Different thread, kid. Different ROE.
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Old 08-07-2003, 11:38 AM
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Different thread, kid. Different ROE.
So? Just because it's a different thread doesn't mean crap. You continued your ignorance here, so I continued.
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So? Just because it's a different thread doesn't mean crap. You continued your ignorance here, so I continued.
Sorry dude, you don't make the rules. Disagreements in one thread do not justify attacks in another.
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You say you're not pissed, yet you vowed never to help Delteria again? Makes a lot of sense.
I do not need to be in a 'pissed off' mood to decide that you do not deserve my help.

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You're right, I fail to realize basic principle as set IP ranges in glrobal RC's, just like how I fail to realize the possibility of changing those IP ranges.
I am gladdeneted that you acknowledge your ignorance. Nemesis did not have the power to touch global IP ranges - why else would he have had such a time when he could not go on RC because Stefan had to fix his IP range? And please, don't attempt to tell me that the global IP ranges are set by RC, because they're not.

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And the fact is, I didn't want any global touching anything unless I knew for a fact of who they were.
How presumptuous of you. The reason the global scripting team exists is becuase of poor scripters.

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I asked you nicely not to touch any NPC's on Delteria, yet you couldn't handle such a simple task.
Since when did you have the authority to order me around? You are not the server manager, and I do not take orders from pathetic local scripters like yourself.

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You sir are even more ignorant than you claim I am.
Becuase I did not follow your as a local scripter's instructions?

I do believe you do not understand the definition of ignorance - perhaps looking it up in a dictionary would assist you.

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And yes, I'm far below par. I'm lucky if I could script a sparring zone!
You know, I'm leaning more and more towards believing that statement with each successive post you make.

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And for what happened on NP, well, a good portioin of it revolved around the fact that I initially didn't like you.
Whether or not you like me, or whether or not I like you, has nothing to do with the job I do (And, I can tell as I write this that as you read that last sentence, you will have thought you could tell me something like "Then why won't you help Delteria?" and attempt to make me look foolish. However, I will say straight off that not liking someone or not being liked by someone is much different than believing that someone is not worthy of my help.)

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As you noticed, once Jagen went on RC there I was prefectly fine with it.
Yes, you do like him, don't you? As if scripting were some popularity contest with you as the sole judge...pfft.

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And if it two you one or two hours to put in that SIMPLE logging system then you must be the most slow typer even to exist. That's 5-10 minutes worth of work.
Excuse me for taking the time and walking through each step of it with the management there so that they not only would know that it works, not only understand how it works, but understand why it works. You fail to comprehend that the global scripting team exists to educate, not do someone's work for them.

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..Have I ever declared myself the "God" of scripting, like Kai thinks he is? Absolutely not, in fact time and time again I've straight out said I'm not the best, nor close to.
Then why act like you are? In the thread wherein you pathetically attempted to prove a point by citing numbers of people who are on your side, you called yourself a "pretty good" scripter, and attempted to use that to further your "proof" that your opinion was right.

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I do enjoy you calling me an idiot though, it amuses me. It also amuses me how you can manage to be a complete *****, yet continue to call others the same.
I am glad that you find humor in my posts. That only further proves my statement about your ignorance.
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