WARNING! Nemesis is broken? - Page 4

brock128 · #**121** 07-04-2003, 04:58 PM

Corrupt staffer? What else is new?

protagonist · #**122** 07-04-2003, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by Thallen

That's one easy way to get yourself banned! And this idiot is Guild Admin with level 4 RC on Babylon... :o

He does have a point though. Nemesis seemed to react rather strongly to something that was supposed to be "fiction". I think it's possible that they are truthful, but I couldn't say for sure. That's just the way it looks from an my standpoint.

Though it was pure sillyness to post on the forums in such a way.

Lyndzey · #**123** 07-04-2003, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist

He does have a point though. Nemesis seemed to react rather strongly to something that was supposed to be "fiction". I think it's possible that they are truthful, but I couldn't say for sure. That's just the way it looks from an my standpoint.

Though it was pure sillyness to post on the forums in such a way.

I'm sure that the phone call is what made himself go corrupt. That's why I am starting to believe the whole phone call situation. If it wasn't true, he would have told everyone it wasn't true rather than delete tons of accounts.

Just because he was caught doing something wrong does not give him a reason to go corrupt. I did feel sorry for Nemesis when the phone calls were put up on the net, but now I have nothing to say to him >:[

konidias · #**124** 07-04-2003, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Thallen

That's one easy way to get yourself banned! And this idiot is Guild Admin with level 4 RC on Babylon... :o

LoL, you're not any better than him because you quoted his post yet, he deleted it, so you're the only one posting that information. Welcome to the world of hypocrosy!

So what exactly is so wrong about that phone call? What two people do in private is their business. I don't really see how he is so "sick" or whatever because he has a girl he talks intimately on the phone with. Unless I'm missing something here....

But him deleting all the people (including me) was just stupid, and there are other ways in dealing with anger than abusing power. Sure the phone call is real, but I don't really see any valid reason to think any different of Nemesis. (not that I liked him in the first place, but this wouldn't make me dislike him more)

I mean, guys and girls do that sort of thing... You know, birds and the bees, hormones, etc.

I'm sure most of us are past that age where a girl and a guy being together is no longer "omg icky gross!".

protagonist · #**125** 07-04-2003, 05:19 PM

I think that was a bit young of a girl, though.

Loriel · #**126** 07-04-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Minoc
I have a suggestion for the future: let the players change their passwords manually to whatever they want (without asking the accounts admin), so they wouldn't be forced to save the password in registry =\

Yes, then we won't need trainers that steal passwords anymore, because we could even more easily bruteforce passwords! w00t!
I, personally, have never had a problem remembering my alphanumeric random passwords.

konidias · #**127** 07-04-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
I think that was a bit young of a girl, though.

Was it? She sounded like a woman...

protagonist · #**128** 07-04-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

Was it? She sounded like a woman...

Oops, wrong MP3.

Thallen · #**129** 07-04-2003, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

LoL, you're not any better than him because you quoted his post yet, he deleted it, so you're the only one posting that information. Welcome to the world of hypocrosy!

So what exactly is so wrong about that phone call? What two people do in private is their business. I don't really see how he is so "sick" or whatever because he has a girl he talks intimately on the phone with. Unless I'm missing something here....

But him deleting all the people (including me) was just stupid, and there are other ways in dealing with anger than abusing power. Sure the phone call is real, but I don't really see any valid reason to think any different of Nemesis. (not that I liked him in the first place, but this wouldn't make me dislike him more)

I mean, guys and girls do that sort of thing... You know, birds and the bees, hormones, etc. I'm sure most of us are past that age where a girl and a guy being together is no longer "omg icky gross!".

:| I only quoted the post to show who I was replying to, if I wouldn't have quoted it anyway, it would have looked like I was talking to air...

Androk · #**130** 07-04-2003, 05:39 PM

Shimoda is an overreacting fool. God, you sound like a freaking 10 year old at Festival.

TB3 is taking ALL of GFX from Faheria ever posted. I guess he's just kidding about making a server (His Char/All Gfx are from Faheria)

I wouldn't expect such a thing to happen to Nemesis, but hey, some people got 3 free weeks out of it. Still, it's sad.

Unixmad rox =P

TifaKhan · #**131** 07-04-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

LoL, you're not any better than him because you quoted his post yet, he deleted it, so you're the only one posting that information. Welcome to the world of hypocrosy!

So what exactly is so wrong about that phone call? What two people do in private is their business. I don't really see how he is so "sick" or whatever because he has a girl he talks intimately on the phone with. Unless I'm missing something here....

But him deleting all the people (including me) was just stupid, and there are other ways in dealing with anger than abusing power. Sure the phone call is real, but I don't really see any valid reason to think any different of Nemesis. (not that I liked him in the first place, but this wouldn't make me dislike him more)

I mean, guys and girls do that sort of thing... You know, birds and the bees, hormones, etc. I'm sure most of us are past that age where a girl and a guy being together is no longer "omg icky gross!".

I agree, while im not condoning what happened, anyone can snap, we are all human. How many servers have been wiped out now, babylon etc. And the person that did it got a slap on the wrist.
Ok so it was a pw admin, he deleted accounts, he shouldnt have, but his private life is nothing to do with Graal.

Lyndzey · #**132** 07-04-2003, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by konidias

So what exactly is so wrong about that phone call? What two people do in private is their business. I don't really see how he is so "sick" or whatever because he has a girl he talks intimately on the phone with. Unless I'm missing something here....

I think it's sick because of the age difference, because they don't know each other in real life, and because he is an admin of a game that she plays.

Darlene159 · #**133** 07-04-2003, 05:52 PM

This is all very sad, I never would have thought Nemesis would do such a thing....Those mp3's being published must have been the last straw for him.
The bad part about it is, what they were doing is not illegal because both parties are adults, but what Knightress did by taping the phone convo was illegal, so I hope Nemesis presses charges on her. Not to mention the fact that the phone calls clearly show that she started it all....this all makes me sick, and I wish Nemesis hadnt reacted in the way that he did

Minoc · #**134** 07-04-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Loriel
Yes, then we won't need trainers that steal passwords anymore, because we could even more easily bruteforce passwords! w00t!
I, personally, have never had a problem remembering my alphanumeric random passwords.

Hmm why?
As long as people wouldn't use dumb easy passwords.. x-x

Dude6252000 · #**135** 07-04-2003, 05:57 PM

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HOLY ****.

That's all I have to say on this situation. I just woke up, and I found out this happened?!

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o_o

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I'm just staying out of this one.
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Spark910 · #**136** 07-04-2003, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Dude6252000
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HOLY ****.

That's all I have to say on this situation. I just woke up, and I found out this happened?!

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o_o

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I'm just staying out of this one.
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I woke up at 7am, came on and was like 'what the hell'' I logged on ICQ to see if I had a reply from Nem about if he had quit or not which I sent a bit ago, and I got one, then went on AIM and heard the story got about 30 AIM windows within about 20seconds! 0_0

Anyway I came home from work EXP 2+1/2 hrs early as they dont have internet, and I wanted to be here.

Milkdude99 · #**137** 07-04-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

I think it's sick because of the age difference, because they don't know each other in real life, and because he is an admin of a game that she plays.

Knightress is an adult with children in their teens Lyndezy, she is older than Nem not younger. Phone sex isn't something I would do but it is not illegal between to consenting adults who are over 18, BUT however taping a phone converstation without the other persons knowedge is illegal. I will agree it is a creepy thought that someone does this with people on here because you at times really don't know their real age, so you really don't need to be doing this with people from Graal.

Also Lyndzey millions of people who do this kind of thing calling those sex lines and they don't know the person on the other end , this has been the blunt end of many jokes about the looks of the "unknown person" on the other end. They being an old fat housewife instead of a slim sexy tart like they would like you to believe. Anyway I am opposed to having any of this kind of thing on Graal or Graal being used to find people to do this, Graal needs to be kept clean of this kind of actitivy.

protagonist · #**138** 07-04-2003, 06:03 PM

I woke up at 7 AM (EST) and tried to log on UN RC. I thought I was fired x.x

Then I found out this happened and breathed a sigh of relief.

konidias · #**139** 07-04-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

I think it's sick because of the age difference, because they don't know each other in real life, and because he is an admin of a game that she plays.

I dunno, those sound like weird reasons to me. What is the age difference anyway? I heard she was 35 or something... how old is he?

As for not knowing eachother in real life... That's impossible. This is real life and they talk to eachother in it. Just because they don't speak face to face doesn't mean there can't be emotional feelings towards one another...

Being admin of a game she plays? So if some guy is boss of a fast food chain, it would be weird for him to date a girl that eats his fast food? That's some strange logic. Couplings like that happen all the time. Coworkers get together, bosses and employees get together.... I mean for example... Tommy Matola is some big music guy, and he's dated Mariah Carey and some Latin singer girl now (who are both under his record company or something).

But anyway, like I said... What two people do in private is their own business. To make judgements on it and call it "wrong" is silly, because the only thing wrong was the fact that the conversation was recorded and made public, which wasn't nemesis' fault in the first place.

Not like I'm defending him or anything, but I'm just trying to understand why you think it's so wrong... What is he like 15 and she's 35 or something? I don't get it.

Spark910 · #**140** 07-04-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Python523
Gyoshi, you're a playerworld manager, use your resources, Stefan2 does NOT have any real power, meaning level 2 global, it can NOT delete accounts, only 4 (well not 3 since nemesis's account is gone) can do it. Also I was kind of disappointed in global staff that were trying to fix the situation (mainly PWAs) who were going around telling people to ban the account Stefan2. How do we have global staff that know NOTHING about the global system? They should know that global accounts bypass local bans

I would blame it on the 7am in the morning, but nobody would accept that as a valid excuse, so make what you will.

And we dont have to know fully how the global system works. I dont have to know how a plane flys, I just have to know it does so.

Darlene159 · #**141** 07-04-2003, 06:10 PM

Nemesis is like 21 or 22

Spark910 · #**142** 07-04-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
Nemesis is like 21 or 22

21 I think.

Python523 · #**143** 07-04-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910

I would blame it on the 7am in the morning, but nobody would accept that as a valid excuse, so make what you will.

And we dont have to know fully how the global system works. I dont have to know how a plane flys, I just have to know it does so.

but you aren't the one responsible for the plane flying, if you were responsible for it, you would know how it flies, since you are global staff, maybe you should learn how it works

FrostyElf · #**144** 07-04-2003, 06:15 PM

Knightress is 38 with 2 Children

TripleE · #**145** 07-04-2003, 06:18 PM

Well Im happy I wasnt banned,or deleted by him. I guess it is good he wasnt an admin of the foums here. He might have done something here also. I hope that Lyndzey becomes the next GM so she can help unixmad make good hiring decisions. She knows whos good and bad I think. ::Sigh:: We also need more people to shut down all these hacking websites. I sent a few PM's to unixmad about them and he never even read them.

Darlene159 · #**146** 07-04-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by TripleE
Well Im happy I wasnt banned,or deleted by him. I guess it is good he wasnt an admin of the foums here. He might have done something here also. I hope that Lyndzey becomes the next GM so she can help unixmad make good hiring decisions. She knows whos good and bad I think. ::Sigh:: We also need more people to shut down all these hacking websites. I sent a few PM's to unixmad about them and he never even read them.

I agree Lyndzey would be an excellent choice for the position

protagonist · #**147** 07-04-2003, 06:36 PM

To be truthful the hacking websites will never be shut down, more will always pop up. Discouraging the use of trainers is the only real way to combat them.

Spark910 · #**148** 07-04-2003, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I agree Lyndzey would be an excellent choice for the position

Yeah she is cool and.....

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SpArK911 (18:12:33): And whats happeneing with the team?
Everyones away or not on anymore :-(
Nem (18:13:15): Sorting that out
Nem (18:13:35): thinking about promoting Lyndzey and possibly getting a new accounts admin or maybe not having one or somethign

So not that it matters, Nem supported her too, x _ x.

superb · #**149** 07-04-2003, 06:41 PM

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Of course, anybody who'd ever even met Nemesis could've predicted that this would happen ¬_¬ People should listen to me more.

100% agreement. The people here are much too naive. It's been obvious that he's corrupt ever since the incidents that happened after the GST opened....among many other acts of corruption (hiring a girlfriend with a bad rep to be global staff, etc.)

Lyndzey · #**150** 07-04-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Knightress is an adult with children in their teens Lyndezy, she is older than Nem not younger. Phone sex isn't something I would do but it is not illegal between to consenting adults who are over 18, BUT however taping a phone converstation without the other persons knowedge is illegal. I will agree it is a creepy thought that someone does this with people on here because you at times really don't know their real age, so you really don't need to be doing this with people from Graal.

Also Lyndzey millions of people who do this kind of thing calling those sex lines and they don't know the person on the other end , this has been the blunt end of many jokes about the looks of the "unknown person" on the other end. They being an old fat housewife instead of a slim sexy tart like they would like you to believe. Anyway I am opposed to having any of this kind of thing on Graal or Graal being used to find people to do this, Graal needs to be kept clean of this kind of actitivy.

I know, she is 35. Still though, the thought that scares me the most is that she is from Graal and he was an administrator of this game.

This isn't good. Today is the day PA will be giving out the accounts and passwords and I am without my RC. Plus, AOL is banned and I need my parents to call since the people who pay are the only ones who can get it unbanned.

And to Konidias, I always thought that Nemesis was dating Kishara through Graal. I don't think it's right to be dating someone and then do something like this with another person.

VeX_RaT_Boy · #**151** 07-04-2003, 06:54 PM

can can Unix be 100% sure that it was HIS IP? Someone might used IP Spoofing prog.... But i dunno...If someone are good friends with him, ask him and see if he admit it..

TripleE · #**152** 07-04-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

I know, she is 35. Still though, the thought that scares me the most is that she is from Graal and he was an administrator of this game.

This isn't good. Today is the day PA will be giving out the accounts and passwords and I am without my RC. Plus, AOL is banned and I need my parents to call since the people who pay are the only ones who can get it unbanned.

Ahh. Maybe someone could temporarly help you if unixmad,or stefan approves of this. Maybe a past admin,or a trusted person. Ill be looking for the passwords and stuff sites and send them to you,and unixmad.

TripleE · #**153** 07-04-2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by VeX_RaT_Boy
can can Unix be 100% sure that it was HIS IP? Someone might used IP Spoofing prog.... But i dunno...If someone are good friends with him, ask him and see if he admit it..

Nope. He stated before he was sure if was him. And those IP spoofs dont really work since it records the IP that was last o the account.

Kronan · #**154** 07-04-2003, 07:20 PM

To stop problems like this from occuring: Take away all powerful admin rights from all global staff, do not give access to any accounts or any information to any player of the game. Only hire people that Unixmad knows in person and who works for cyberjourer.

Tseng · #**155** 07-04-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kronan
To stop problems like this from occuring: Take away all powerful admin rights from all global staff, do not give access to any accounts or any information to any player of the game. Only hire people that Unixmad knows in person and who works for cyberjourer.

Mistake; they (Stefan+unixmad) realize the importance of having staff on the other side of the world to be on at times they cannot be.

As for Nemesis? I never liked him, ever since he wouldn't help the police chief of graal2001 after DL stole his password by registering an expired hotmail account. :-\

Admins · #**156** 07-04-2003, 07:25 PM

Ok Restored all accounts, and added 21 gold-days.

Mustang1988 · #**157** 07-04-2003, 07:27 PM

Thanks to stefan and unixmad, my account is now fully restored.

I didn't read a lot of the last 5 pages, since I was reading the other few pages of it last night when I was trying to get people offline, and I had my friend Minion post some stuff since my account was no longer Gold, but I just wanted to stop by and say thanks.

Nemesis also banned my account (don't know about anyone elses) for the reason, "haxing my heart." Was unbanned of course, but I don't know if this was mentioned or not already.

By the way, this is Phayze. :o

URBANLEGEND · #**158** 07-04-2003, 07:53 PM

Nice to hear Stefan.

Spark910 · #**159** 07-04-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by URBANLEGEND
Nice to hear Stefan.

Sure is. And I cant belive this whole event occured.

TripleE · #**160** 07-04-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang1988
Thanks to stefan and unixmad, my account is now fully restored.

I didn't read a lot of the last 5 pages, since I was reading the other few pages of it last night when I was trying to get people offline, and I had my friend Minion post some stuff since my account was no longer Gold, but I just wanted to stop by and say thanks.

Nemesis also banned my account (don't know about anyone elses) for the reason, "haxing my heart." Was unbanned of course, but I don't know if this was mentioned or not already.

By the way, this is Phayze. :o

Havent seen you here in a while. Happy to hear your account is back and well.