Sad it has come to this...

Soul-Blade · #1 06-15-2003, 06:36 AM

Well, as you are all aware there is a new system coming into effect regarding PWs. This also effects UC worlds.

Currently, I do not have the funds to pay for such a thing. This is why I posted this, even though I did not want to these extreme cirumstances have brought me to ask for contributions.

Any amount is greatly appreciated, I just want to keep SA alive, and as far as developement goes we are rolling on. Just released a new screenshot yesterday:
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=45475
So that is to say, if I can get the funds then SA WILL be kept alive and eventually completed. I am now working double time on getting things done with this new system coming.
If I am unable to get these funds, then I don't really know what will happen yet, I just hope it will not come to that.

Well, thanks alot. I won't get into detail on why I don't have the funds, unless you want to personally know I will explain in a PM.

I don't know what else to say, other then I hope I can get the help. Anyone who contributes will get their name on a special thanks section of the credits.

If you would like to make a donation, please send it the paypal account:
[email protected]

Alright, thanks alot for your support everyone.

mhermher · #2 06-15-2003, 12:17 PM

You have mail!

konidias · #3 06-15-2003, 05:18 PM

I'm in the same boat with Oasis... so if you want to donate something via paypal, just use the link in my sig... Thanks.

This paying stuff is getting ridiculous. It's never really an optional thing with Graal, they just force it on you. You either pay, or you don't play. You either pay, or you don't keep your playerworld. It's sad.

I can't imagine what they will make us pay for next... Excluding the forums from gold accounts and making us pay for those seperately?

This reminds me of the middle ages. Kings would constantly tax the peasants until the peasants had no money. Tax for food, tax for housing, tax for walking down the road, tax for crossing a bridge...

-Albus · #4 06-15-2003, 06:49 PM

I sure hope you get what you need Soul-Blade, good luck.

zell12 · #5 06-15-2003, 07:35 PM

Where is Kamuii, he is usally the guy to say, "$50 is nothing, go mow some lawns or milk some cows."

Eric_1337 · #6 06-15-2003, 08:08 PM

I'd send some money to both of you, but I am currently saving for a new laptop and some parts for a computer I am going to rebuild... I am ultimately going to need around 850-900$ =*(

Spark910 · #7 06-15-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337
I'd send some money to both of you, but I am currently saving for a new laptop and some parts for a computer I am going to rebuild... I am ultimately going to need around 850-900$ =*(

I dont see why you would send money to a project you know/have seen little of...

Neoreno · #8 06-15-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
Where is Kamuii, he is usally the guy to say, "$50 is nothing, go mow some lawns or milk some cows."

Actually, the phrase was.
"$50 is nothing, go mow some lawns or go wax some cats."

Quite honestly, I think Oasis and Shifting Ages has been over-hyped. Like Maloria was.

Spark910 · #9 06-15-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Brett White

I think you need some new 2 inch thick glasses Kiirar.

Wasn't gaia supposed to be cool. And if we havent seen anything, and Oasis has been UC for SO long, why can we not assume its a 2230?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #10 06-16-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Where is Kamuii, he is usally the guy to say, "$50 is nothing, go mow some lawns or milk some cows."

I will say it in his absence

Guys, $59 dollars for your own freaking playerworld for 6 months is not much at all. I work at a grocery store and make a welfare Canadian wage and I can still pay that 6 months off with half a week of work. That's about 12-14 hours of my job, after my union dues and obligatory fees. Now, supposedly, the most 'talented' developers are crying foul that it's a shame they have to get off their computers and get a real job where they make real money to become consumers in the economy. I'm sorry, I don't feel the least bit sorry for you all. I don't think that you're all 12 year olds that are too young to get a job or even run errands for your parents to make the occasional buck or two, I thought you were all mature grown up people that could suck it up and stop acting like princesses and pay your fees. Whining will get you sympathy and lots of frowns on the forums (

) but it won't get you anywhere in life financially. However, at some point I will feel somewhat sorry for those that actually pay your fees so you can continue to develop your playerworlds because they could have spent it in a better way.

Soul-Blade · #11 06-16-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

I will say it in his absence

Guys, $59 dollars for your own freaking playerworld for 6 months is not much at all. I work at a grocery store and make a welfare Canadian wage and I can still pay that 6 months off with half a week of work. That's about 12-14 hours of my job, after my union dues and obligatory fees. Now, supposedly, the most 'talented' developers are crying foul that it's a shame they have to get off their computers and get a real job where they make real money to become consumers in the economy. I'm sorry, I don't feel the least bit sorry for you all. I don't think that you're all 12 year olds that are too young to get a job or even run errands for your parents to make the occasional buck or two, I thought you were all mature grown up people that could suck it up and stop acting like princesses and pay your fees. Whining will get you sympathy and lots of frowns on the forums ( ) but it won't get you anywhere in life financially. However, at some point I will feel somewhat sorry for those that actually pay your fees so you can continue to develop your playerworlds because they could have spent it in a better way.

You are so damn ignorant. I typed the first time with detailed reasons, then decided you do not need to know. Then I typed a second without any details, then decided you did not need to know. I now type this, because you do not need to know my personal life. All that needs to be known is I do not have the money, and it has nothing to do with my having a job or not, because either way I would not have the money.

I am going to disregard your post, becuase you do not have the facts. I would not be asking for the money if I did not need it, and remember I am ONLY ASKING.

I want to say so much more, but you lack so much knowledge of life, and money, I am not going to bother.

konidias · #12 06-16-2003, 02:13 AM

I can't get a job at the moment. I have reasons, and no it's not because I'm lazy. Plus, the money I do earn, goes to things I NEED. Unlike people like Aftershock, who has their parents pay for everything, I do not have that luxury. I have to pay bills, pay for my own clothes, pay for my own insurance, luckily I don't have to pay for food (most of the time).

I don't have 60 dollars to just flush down the toilet, just so I can keep doing what I've been doing for months. If I have 60-100 dollars, it's going towards the things I need first.

Spark, I'm not showing anything for Oasis anymore. Because certain people *cough Tyrial cough* like to copy my graphics and claim them as their own. So thank him for stopping all future development snapshots of Oasis.

Kaimetsu · #13 06-16-2003, 02:28 AM

It always kinda amuses me when people talk about the things they 'need' to spend money on. Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to say that any particular hobby is inherently better than another. I just think that you don't need to spend money on insurance and clothes and telephone bills and heck-knows-what-else any more than I need to spend money on donuts

zell12 · #14 06-16-2003, 02:28 AM

Aftershock is right, Canada sucks and we still manage to make enough money to have fun. It is damn hard to mow lawns up here kamuii by the way... Every lawn is like 50 acres. x.x

zrpgp2p · #15 06-16-2003, 03:41 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
I can't get a job at the moment. I have reasons, and no it's not because I'm lazy. Plus, the money I do earn, goes to things I NEED. Unlike people like Aftershock, who has their parents pay for everything, I do not have that luxury. I have to pay bills, pay for my own clothes, pay for my own insurance, luckily I don't have to pay for food (most of the time).

I don't have 60 dollars to just flush down the toilet, just so I can keep doing what I've been doing for months. If I have 60-100 dollars, it's going towards the things I need first.

Spark, I'm not showing anything for Oasis anymore. Because certain people *cough Tyrial cough* like to copy my graphics and claim them as their own. So thank him for stopping all future development snapshots of Oasis.

That b******, why the hell can't he just make his own **** without taking other people's.