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Old 06-09-2003, 02:48 AM
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Graal 3d

Stefan , is there any news on graal 3d ?

We have all seen the screen shots but have not heard any news on its development, when should it be open to alpha or beta testing????
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Old 06-09-2003, 05:52 PM
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When 3.0 is released, it should be very near that time.
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Old 06-10-2003, 02:35 AM
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I saw the screenshots,it looks very nice.
But i have no money to reupgrade,so i wont play it.
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Graal 3d better be good because if its not and 2k1 is going classic then I see no reason to re upgrade to gold.
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Old 06-10-2003, 05:24 AM
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I will check it out. A 3d version of graal would change graal forever. It would also make playerworld hosting much more competitive, because the managers would have to keep up with a 3d tileset to attract players. I for one, might concider changing alot of things on my server, when graal 3d comes out.
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I will check it out. A 3d version of graal would change graal forever. It would also make playerworld hosting much more competitive, because the managers would have to keep up with a 3d tileset to attract players. I for one, might concider changing alot of things on my server, when graal 3d comes out.
I dont think 3D is a tileset as such, besides, I doubt any PW is really competing with the gold servers, doing so is slightly pointless.
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Old 06-10-2003, 07:50 PM
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I dont think 3D is a tileset as such, besides, I doubt any PW is really competing with the gold servers, doing so is slightly pointless.
True, but when they start losing their players to the gold servers they might concider it.
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True, but when they start losing their players to the gold servers they might concider it.
Possibly, although a majority of players have just classic, or gold for forums.
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Old 06-10-2003, 07:55 PM
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Seems that many of you forget that Graal 3D is not its own server or anything. It's simply an addition to the 2D Kingdoms as they are now. Graal 3.0 fully supports the 3D stuff that will be added. It just needs to have that stuff added to it.
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Old 06-10-2003, 09:46 PM
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Graal 3D will probably be the one thing that decides if I re-upgrade or not

I know it's an addition to the 2D graal Kingdoms, but I'm looking for something new too. I don't really want to play 2d kingdoms and go through all that strenuous work JUST to have a mildly pleasant experience playing the 3D mode.
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Graal 3D will probably be the one thing that decides if I re-upgrade or not

I know it's an addition to the 2D graal Kingdoms, but I'm looking for something new too. I don't really want to play 2d kingdoms and go through all that strenuous work JUST to have a mildly pleasant experience playing the 3D mode.
You should re-upgrade anyway, your cool. And yes although 3D is an add-on to 2D, the stats shouldn't be linked etc...
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Old 06-11-2003, 01:55 PM
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Graal 3d is using the same game engine as Tribes, because remember Unixmad saying they bought the licence to the Tribes gaming engine since it would save them time and money to create another gaming engine like it.
I pretty much doubt that playerworld will be allowed to use this gaming engine, and I don’t believe it needs a tile set as some person had suggested.
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Old 06-11-2003, 03:41 PM
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So this means that Graal 3D comes out very soon? (2 to 3 months)
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:15 PM
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So this means that Graal 3D comes out very soon? (2 to 3 months)
I don't want to be bashing Graal, but they really messed up.

Back in November, we were shown these screenshots and they looked really good. Unixmad said shortly after the new year Graal 3D will be released to VIP players, so lots of people upgraded specifically for that. Now, unless you're oblivious to time then it doesn't take a genius that 'shortly after the new year' has passed quite some time ago, and now we're into mid-June, without as much as an updated screenshot or word from Unixmad about the status of what could have been the greatest thing Graal has seen. Instead, we're all geared on making Graal for obsolete or non-mainstream operating systems that really don't even target 95% of the Graalian audience.

Let's see some Graal3D ok?
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Old 06-14-2003, 06:44 AM
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Graal 3d is using the same game engine as Tribes, because remember Unixmad saying they bought the licence to the Tribes gaming engine since it would save them time and money to create another gaming engine like it.
I pretty much doubt that playerworld will be allowed to use this gaming engine, and I don’t believe it needs a tile set as some person had suggested.
No, Graal 3D is using the same game engine as Tribes 2. There's a big difference. Tribes' engine was good, but Tribes 2's engine was horribly laggy and badly built.

I may upgrade to VIP to try it out, but if it's any laggier than any of the Graal servers now, I will not upgrade afterwards.

Aftershock has a point. I think Unixmad has trouble keeping his release dates... Sort of like Nintendo... ;x
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Old 06-14-2003, 06:47 AM
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Like production of graal 3d has stopped dudes.. they dont have the graphics artists to do it.
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Old 06-14-2003, 08:10 AM
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Well, in all fairness if what you are saying is true Unixmad should have said something. I'd rather hear the honest truth from his mouth than to have it cover up and pretend there never is or never was a Graal 3D.
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Like production of graal 3d has stopped dudes.. they dont have the graphics artists to do it.
You do know that UNIX hires a privet graphics artist to do all this graphics work right???
How did you the graphics where made for graal kingdom??? Tyhm told me that they hired a graphics artist to all that work, so I don’t really see the point of them not hiring another graphics artist to make some charters models and some new textures for graal3d
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Like production of graal 3d has stopped dudes.. they dont have the graphics artists to do it.
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How ungrall-y can you get?
By not playing Graal. By definition, Graal the game is whatever Stefan and unix (and in turn the rest of Linux Cyberjoueurs) choose to make it. If they think that Graal is 3D, it's 3D, if they think it's 2D+1/2, then it's 2D+1/2. I don't see the reason for all the pissy fits. =\
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Well, in all fairness if what you are saying is true Unixmad should have said something. I'd rather hear the honest truth from his mouth than to have it cover up and pretend there never is or never was a Graal 3D.
I shouldn't have said anything.. damn it now im probably banned for leaking information that could hinder the cash profit to unix damn it. ok nice knowing you, I thought he posted it somewhere.

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You do know that UNIX hires a privet graphics artist to do all this graphics work right???
How did you the graphics where made for graal kingdom??? Tyhm told me that they hired a graphics artist to all that work, so I don’t really see the point of them not hiring another graphics artist to make some charters models and some new textures for graal3d
You know he quit right? I forget his name.. aww doesn't matter. he did and since im probably banned anyway now for leaking that. yea he did make the gfx for graal kingdoms the houses etc. probabyl if they could get lady auron to work on graal 3d or Deek theyd be set, however right now production is stopped.

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Well, in all fairness if what you are saying is true Unixmad should have said something. I'd rather hear the honest truth from his mouth than to have it cover up and pretend there never is or never was a Graal 3D.
There was a graal 3d .. however all they have right now is basically the graphics that came with the tribes engine. I am sure he found someone by now though.. I hope for my sake of posting on forums.

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I am not that low on the information highway. I know people in high places. I know alot of other information as well, but since I said this and I thought he said something already about it.. damn it im screwed. oh well

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By not playing Graal. By definition, Graal the game is whatever Stefan and unix (and in turn the rest of Linux Cyberjoueurs) choose to make it. If they think that Graal is 3D, it's 3D, if they think it's 2D+1/2, then it's 2D+1/2. I don't see the reason for all the pissy fits. =\
Thats idiotic, so because they are Cyberjourers they can say its a First person shooter and it is? you would make a perfect cultist if you just naturally believe whatever someone tells you. By Definitions its a mix of 2d and 3d not because they say its 2d 1/2. By games definition its still 2d but with 3d backgrounds. Not because some French or Germans say it is. I am banned probably anyway for saying what I said I can hope stefan or unix doesn't see that I leaked information.. I think im screwed. I hope I just get a warning for that.
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Not because some French or Germans say it is.
That sounded racist to me.
Also, Kamui is right. If the creators of the game want it to be a first-person-shooter, hell even a side scroller it would still be Graal.
By what your saying, we stopped playing Graal a looooooooong time ago. You're basically saying that the first version of Graal after Zelda Online is the only Graal.
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That sounded racist to me.
Also, Kamui is right. If the creators of the game want it to be a first-person-shooter, hell even a side scroller it would still be Graal.
By what your saying, we stopped playing Graal a looooooooong time ago. You're basically saying that the first version of Graal after Zelda Online is the only Graal.
It wasnt racist, however I think we are on seperate pages.. I was saying that there is already a definition for those words such as 2d and 3d. such as graal is a 3rd person adventure game.. you can't say its a FPS. If they decide for it to be so in the future and remake it .. then it will be.. but right now graal in itself is a 2d adventure game.. If anyone.. says otherwise they are either testing your stupidity or showing thiers. Because its not.. Cyberjourers can change it.. but they havent if they do then it will be whatever they MAKE it. however you cant just define wht it is right now..

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You know he quit right? I forget his name.. aww doesn't matter. he did and since im probably banned anyway now for leaking that. yea he did make the gfx for graal kingdoms the houses etc. probabyl if they could get lady auron to work on graal 3d or Deek theyd be set, however right now production is stopped.


What information did you give that’s you give , that will get you banned???
You said that the Graal 3d project came to a stop , but what tyhm told me is that Unixmad is working on the project on his own. Look ill even post what he said
“Graal3d is still being made. Unixmad's doing it, and as he only occasionally has time to do it, it is going slowly. Plus there's been a redesign, as the 3d FPS market is overburdened - making another CS knockoff's just going to make us look foolish.”
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You get more and more *****ic as each day passes.

The point is way over your head, Kinatt. Graal is whatever Stefan and Unixmad want it to be. Just because you don't necessarily agree with how they handle something, that does not give you the right to begin badmouthing them and saying everything they're doing is a lie. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around you and what you think.
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You get more and more *****ic as each day passes.

The point is way over your head, Kinatt. Graal is whatever Stefan and Unixmad want it to be. Just because you don't necessarily agree with how they handle something, that does not give you the right to begin badmouthing them and saying everything they're doing is a lie. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around you and what you think.
I never badmouthed anyone, damn neoreno are you stupid? I said no such thing.. I just said that currently graal is not a fps omg.. you just didnt read what I posted. you are an idiot. I dont care what they do I dont disagree or agree with anything about what you just said, I am not talking about that I was ****ing talking about definitions not what it will be or what it will evolve into! damn your an idiot.

Stating that Graal currently, is an FPS is *****ic and makes no sense because currently it is a 2d adventure game. Maybe in the future it may be 3d but right now its not.
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I never badmouthed anyone, damn neoreno are you stupid?
I don't know. Why don't you ask him? I'm not Neoreno.



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I said no such thing.. I just said that currently graal is not a fps omg.. you just didnt read what I posted. you are an idiot. I dont care what they do I dont disagree or agree with anything about what you just said, I am not talking about that I was ****ing talking about definitions not what it will be or what it will evolve into! damn your an idiot.
I'm going to use logic to attack your small, pitiful brain.

1.) For God's sake, learn the difference between "your" and "you're."

2.) You said "Not because some French or Germans say it is." Well, sir, those French and German guys we like to call Stefan and Unixmad created the game, and what they say, goes.

Enough of ripping that apart. I had trouble reading it, so I'll go onto the next part.



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Stating that Graal currently, is an FPS is *****ic and makes no sense because currently it is a 2d adventure game. Maybe in the future it may be 3d but right now its not.
1.) I did not state that Graal is a first-person shooter. I have no idea where you came up with that.

2.) If you don't know how to use commas, don't use them at all.

3.) Like I said, what they say, goes. Graal can be any-fricking-thing Stefan and Unixmad want it to be. Since when did you become the boss of them?
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:23 AM
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Neonight arguing with you is pointless I never said they were doing anything wrong where the hell are you pulling this **** from? I never stated any of that. you dumb ass bafoon. If anyone here is doing something wrong its your ass. haha.
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I shouldn't have said anything.. damn it now im probably banned for leaking information that could hinder the cash profit to unix damn it. ok nice knowing you, I thought he posted it somewhere.



You know he quit right? I forget his name.. aww doesn't matter. he did and since im probably banned anyway now for leaking that. yea he did make the gfx for graal kingdoms the houses etc. probabyl if they could get lady auron to work on graal 3d or Deek theyd be set, however right now production is stopped.



There was a graal 3d .. however all they have right now is basically the graphics that came with the tribes engine. I am sure he found someone by now though.. I hope for my sake of posting on forums.



I am not that low on the information highway. I know people in high places. I know alot of other information as well, but since I said this and I thought he said something already about it.. damn it im screwed. oh well



Thats idiotic, so because they are Cyberjourers they can say its a First person shooter and it is? you would make a perfect cultist if you just naturally believe whatever someone tells you. By Definitions its a mix of 2d and 3d not because they say its 2d 1/2. By games definition its still 2d but with 3d backgrounds. Not because some French or Germans say it is. I am banned probably anyway for saying what I said I can hope stefan or unix doesn't see that I leaked information.. I think im screwed. I hope I just get a warning for that.

That's where I got all of the "****," Kinatt. Did you forget that you had posted that previously?
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