Could you imagine this? - Page 3

Milkdude99 · #81 05-30-2003, 08:32 AM

Well I don't know if it would work or not BUT I know of a good name for the PW Monkey Mayhem

Soul-Blade · #82 05-31-2003, 01:29 AM

Just shut up Spanky, and that other guy. You are both speaking either by ignorance, bias, and jealousy. The fact is, G-Yoshis stuff is wonderful. I have been on his world, and I know. I was extremely impressed by what he showed me. You guys obviously have some idiotic issues you need to deal with, but another obvious note is you are not capable of creating something at his level so you try to degrade him down to yours.

Yoshi, I would not listen to them. Your stuff is not only exceptional, but it is the most original I have seen. Many people base ideas off of SOM, or other SNES legends...but your work...I have not seen any game with a similiar style. It is great, and regardless what idiotic fools say, it is above what most people have created/are creating.

Aknts · #83 05-31-2003, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
Just shut up Spanky, and that other guy. You are both speaking either by ignorance, bias, and jealousy. The fact is, G-Yoshis stuff is wonderful. I have been on his world, and I know. I was extremely impressed by what he showed me. You guys obviously have some idiotic issues you need to deal with, but another obvious note is you are not capable of creating something at his level so you try to degrade him down to yours.

Yoshi, I would not listen to them. Your stuff is not only exceptional, but it is the most original I have seen. Many people base ideas off of SOM, or other SNES legends...but your work...I have not seen any game with a similiar style. It is great, and regardless what idiotic fools say, it is above what most people have created/are creating.

It still sucks and once again your acting like we are the only one's who don't like it. It was clear that no one else did when it was up. Then I go and see his new stuff just incase he got better when infact he didn't. Im not ****ing jealous of him what is there to be jealous of. He can make GFX yes, He can script Yes, and he can make levels Yes, but all of them are low quality.

Milkdude99 · #84 05-31-2003, 06:34 PM

Soul everyone has their own personal taste about levels and gfx , it can be really good but I may not like it because it is not a style I care for. Lets take Shaded Legends for example, I thought they had some real good levels and a decent PW but evidently most players didn't like it because hardly anyone goes there. Players are strange animals and sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why they play a PW regardless of content.

superb · #85 05-31-2003, 08:00 PM

They'd rather play servers like Era where all there is to do is shoot each other and join gangs.

Soul-Blade · #86 05-31-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Soul everyone has their own personal taste about levels and gfx , it can be really good but I may not like it because it is not a style I care for. Lets take Shaded Legends for example, I thought they had some real good levels and a decent PW but evidently most players didn't like it because hardly anyone goes there. Players are strange animals and sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why they play a PW regardless of content.

I don't think you understand that DK is NOT public. They have NO way of knowing how it looks, and yet they attack it from ignorance.

G_yoshi · #87 05-31-2003, 11:18 PM

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It still sucks and once again your acting like we are the only one's who don't like it. It was clear that no one else did when it was up. Then I go and see his new stuff just incase he got better when infact he didn't. Im not ****ing jealous of him what is there to be jealous of. He can make GFX yes, He can script Yes, and he can make levels Yes, but all of them are low quality.

I beg to differ. As I recall I had a greater than moderate interest as a whole more so than up comming PWs. Quit pretending to be the voice of Graal because you obviously are not

Even as I have said as well as many others have said its your opinion and that is all it reflects; you and no one else.

Also, drop this graphics bandwagon you seem to riding on. This, again, isn't my main focus so why do you continually skew it that way? I'm using terrain thus I need my own graphics albiet they aren't the best. Would be better if I could actually find talent. Far and few are there any. All I seem to find are run-of-the-mill users that only know how to use gradient fill and dumping a texture on an image thus it magically becomes a great work of art. Yeah, that's really good talent

Same thing goes for scripting. Very hard to find people that are more or less willing to make really nice scripts. All I've ever gotten from people trying to apply are lame weapon scripts such as staff tools.

The mindset isn't here, apparently, for a quality world based upon the majority of players and thier behavior as a group. There are many that have the potential just that a good chunk of them gets sucked into the power game. I'm not trying to usher in some graphical revoloution. I'll let Konidias and Soul-Blade handle that. I'm at the very least trying to usher in a new type of playerworld that will have a lot more depth to it while maintaining the KISS method (if at all possible). I want players to actually feel apart of my world and to have a small leverage in how it will flow without having to actually be staff. How that will work is my business

Aknts · #88 06-01-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

I don't think you understand that DK is NOT public. They have NO way of knowing how it looks, and yet they attack it from ignorance.

He has posted update screenshots in his forum for May.

Soul-Blade · #89 06-01-2003, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

He has posted update screenshots in his forum for May.

You go by one screenshot? Which I think is bad compared to the many other things he has? That is not very smart.

konidias · #90 06-01-2003, 05:00 PM

All I have to say is, I'm flattered by all the mentioning of my name and people praising my work and stuff.

I mean, everyone has their own opinion, as it's been said here. So sure, some people might not like G-Yoshi's stuff, but then again, some people might not like my stuff. So it's all a matter of opinion.

Although one playerworld might blow the other one away as far as graphics are concerned, whose to say that the less visual playerworld isn't as fun or funner, than the more visual playerworld? You can't really judge any of these playerworlds until they are public and stuff. So I guess all the arguing is kind of moot.

But I guess when there is finally a certain standard set, then everything needs to meet that standard or rise above it. Meaning once a truely innovative, fun, and entertaining playerworld emerges, everything else will be compared to it. Right now, there's not much you can compare. Between Oasis, Shifting Ages, and Doragon Koden, I can't really compare them at all. I've seen a little of DK, I've seen a little of SA, I've seen all of Oasis, but none of it is final, none of it is finished, and until it is, I'm not voicing my opinion on anything.

Aknts · #91 06-01-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

You go by one screenshot? Which I think is bad compared to the many other things he has? That is not very smart.

I said "screenshots" as in plural. Ok if your saying that it is bad compared to his new stuff which when I talked to you about this stuff on aim was like a week ago so it was maybe 15 days after he posted the stuff on the forum. Alot must of changed in those 15 days to make his stuff go from "crap" to "better crap".

With what Konidias said about some people may like G Yoshi's and some might not like his, but I think people respect Konidias' GFX even if they don't like the style b/c you can tell time and heart where put into his GFX. Time and Heart maybe in G Yoshi's GFX but you can't tell b/c it looks like **** he threw together in 3 minutes.

Eric_1337 · #92 06-02-2003, 05:58 AM

why would you think that because we are against his work we are jelous? I don't even see how you can get that from what we are saying. That has got to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen in my life. Saying that just imply's how much you know about what we are saying and what we are trying to state. I am just totally against bragging about your own work.

Soul, you got to see his server and I guess you're saying it's good, but from what I have seen, all I can concure is that it looks aweful and I havetalked to people about this server and they all don't like the way it's going besides soul(don't know why). Opinion this opinion that... blah blah blah is all I see.. stop talking about opinions, most of the people agree on each other when it comes to good taste and bad taste. Saying it's opnionated just compresses that you are insecure about what you are saying and don't feel like stating your true feelings about the subect on hand.

PieOwns · #93 06-02-2003, 10:55 PM

Hrmph.. Its a shame that people that are talented know it. I wish people like kai were ignorant to their talents. Then they would do it and not say things like "I would beat you on any level" and such. Kai, as smart as you are, you're a jackass. Sorry, but math or scripting or whatever you are good at wont help your modesty.

o.o;

Aknts · #94 06-02-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
Kai, as smart as you are, you're a jackass. Sorry, but math or scripting or whatever you are good at wont help your modesty.

o.o;

wow

PieOwns · #95 06-02-2003, 11:21 PM

What, unless curse words are considered horrible here I dont think I said anything outside the rules.

Kaimetsu · #96 06-02-2003, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
Hrmph.. Its a shame that people that are talented know it. I wish people like kai were ignorant to their talents. Then they would do it and not say things like "I would beat you on any level" and such.

Contexts, dawgface. There are more facets to this encounter than you realise.

PieOwns · #97 06-02-2003, 11:29 PM

My point exactly. You think to highly of yourself. I dont remember the quote exactly.. But It went something like "Light travels faster then sound, which is why people always seem bright untill you hear them speak."

G_yoshi · #98 06-02-2003, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337
why would you think that because we are against his work we are jelous? I don't even see how you can get that from what we are saying. That has got to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen in my life. Saying that just imply's how much you know about what we are saying and what we are trying to state. I am just totally against bragging about your own work.

Soul, you got to see his server and I guess you're saying it's good, but from what I have seen, all I can concure is that it looks aweful and I havetalked to people about this server and they all don't like the way it's going besides soul(don't know why). Opinion this opinion that... blah blah blah is all I see.. stop talking about opinions, most of the people agree on each other when it comes to good taste and bad taste. Saying it's opnionated just compresses that you are insecure about what you are saying and don't feel like stating your true feelings about the subect on hand.

A handful, perhaps maybe 3 or 4 players? Yeah, that's a nice majority right there

Once again, this is my project, not yours. If you were in charge things would probably be different now wouldn't they be? First off, I'd probably leave because I wouldn't be able to achieve my dreams and goals because I'd have ignorant roadblocks much like yourself in the way. So what if I brag a little? We are all guilty of it so don't sit there and make yourself like you don't and once in a while its harmless. I'm not being belligerent about it so I think you ought to shut yer yap before you dig your hole any deeper.

Its all opinions. Even if its a group concensus its still an opinion and nothing more. But what do I know, hmm? I guess because I'm making a PW my opinion carries less value, right? If you don't like what I'm making you don't have to play. However, you should at least patiently wait for me to finish before you jump to such bizarre conclusions.

And to remind several of you:
I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVING THE GREATEST GRAPHICS IN THE WORLD SO SHUT THE **** UP!
I made it nice and big so that you don't have to strain to see it.

If you still don't get it then that's your problem.

I still think you are jealous or are in some way angry that you're not part of what I'm doing or that you have no influence. You certainly make it seem that way

Kaimetsu · #99 06-02-2003, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
My point exactly. You think to highly of yourself.

How did my statement prove your point? If you think it's arrogant to posit that I know something that you don't then I think you're the one with the ego problem. The fact is that you don't know the full story here, and yet you stupidly make wild judgements about the participants.

PieOwns · #**100** 06-02-2003, 11:38 PM

How did it prove my point? I interpret your statment as "I can read between the lines. Dont mess with me, because the implications are wide spread". To me that says "Hey Im better than you and have more influence... and I have no problem stating it." You ARE full of yourself.

EDIT: And I am not talking about any story... or timeline. The fact is that you are full of yourself, and I wish you would be a little more bland with your discussion of it.

Another EDIT: I am not saying you Dont know something that I dont.. if that makes sense o.o;; I am saying that what you do know you put on a plaque and wave around with steamers and banners and theme music... >.> You advertise your talents in an annoying way. Its like a Jays commercial.. The motives are too apparent.

Kaimetsu · #**101** 06-02-2003, 11:42 PM

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How did it prove my point? I interpret your statment as "I can read between the lines. Dont mess with me, because the implications are wide spread".

...

Where did you learn to read?

PieOwns · #**102** 06-02-2003, 11:46 PM

School, the same as your average person. This is what triggered my thinking what I do
Facets: Faces, sides, pieces
Context: Between the lines, Hidden, etc
And the rest anyone can figure out... o.o

Kaimetsu · #**103** 06-02-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
Facets: Faces, sides, pieces

...yes, so? All I was saying is that there are details you're not aware of. That's hardly arrogant, it's a pure statement of fact.

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Context: Between the lines, Hidden, etc

The word 'context' doesn't necessarily imply anything hidden, but that's besides the point. The knowledge you lack is not hiding between any lines, it is just stuff regarding events in the past.

PieOwns · #**104** 06-02-2003, 11:59 PM

Mmm. Sorry then. But still, something about you clashes with my modesty >.> ... Dunno If I can say it the right way. But anyway.. You are very literal... You should listen to what I mean.... Not what I say.

G_yoshi · #**105** 06-03-2003, 12:08 AM

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...something about you clashes with my modesty >.> ...

Now who's bragging?

Kaimetsu · #**106** 06-03-2003, 12:09 AM

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Mmm. Sorry then. But still, something about you clashes with my modesty >.> ... Dunno If I can say it the right way.

*shrugs*

I'm usually very self-deprecating, I mention whatever talents I have only in response to them being questioned by a third party.

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But anyway.. You are very literal... You should listen to what I mean.... Not what I say.

Text is often a poor medium for expressing meanings. I do the best that I can.

PieOwns · #**107** 06-03-2003, 12:09 AM

Mabye you interpreted it wrong but saying (Or at least this is what I think I said) "Something about you clashes with me" Is just saying that I dont like you at some level... o.o
This is in response to the guy with the cool yoshi sig o.o

G_yoshi · #**108** 06-03-2003, 12:12 AM

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Mabye you interpreted it wrong but saying (Or at least this is what I think I said) "Something about you clashes with me" Is just saying that I dont like you at some level... o.o
This is in response to the guy with the cool yoshi sig o.o

Don't know how it could've meant different. It helps if you actually post what you mean rather than shroud it as you claim you did. If you meant that you didn't like him at some level then you should've said just that. Otherwise, howelse can it be interpreted wrong?

PieOwns · #**109** 06-03-2003, 12:14 AM

As kai said, text is poor for expression (Or something to that effect) You really can't pin down what I meant by it... I am the one who said it, And I said what I wanted to. All I am doing when rephrasing it is just that, rephrasing it from its original form in a way easier to compare and.. cross examine o.o.. Since that seems to be what people do here.

G_yoshi · #**110** 06-03-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
As kai said, text is poor for expression (Or something to that effect) You really can't pin down what I meant by it... I am the one who said it, And I said what I wanted to. All I am doing when rephrasing it is just that, rephrasing it from its original form in a way easier to compare and.. cross examine o.o.. Since that seems to be what people do here.

Why spend the time? I'd much rather not have to waste mine trying to speculate other ways to interpret what someone says.

You could save yourself a lot of trouble by being to the point the first time around rather than be 'cryptic' and then reply later on that its not what it meant but something else. If you're not sure people will understand what you are saying then take a little time to restate your words before posting and thus causing us to blatantly misinterpret.

Text can be a poor way for expression, but only if the one expressing it is poor doing so

Milkdude99 · #**111** 06-03-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

I don't think you understand that DK is NOT public. They have NO way of knowing how it looks, and yet they attack it from ignorance.

Just consider the source and ignore their ignorance. People who attack a PW and haven't even seen it aren't dealing with a full deck.

G_yoshi · #**112** 06-03-2003, 12:24 AM

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Just consider the source and ignore their ignorance. People who attack a PW and haven't even seen it aren't dealing with a full deck.

But...but, its so much fun to do knowing that.

PieOwns · #**113** 06-03-2003, 12:27 AM

You were the one that interpreted what I said and criticized me in the first place o.o And I say it in a way that makes sense. When I say it again I say it for your benefit.. To clear up what I mean exactly... So im not being cryptic

G_yoshi · #**114** 06-03-2003, 12:40 AM

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You were the one that interpreted what I said and criticized me in the first place o.o And I say it in a way that makes sense. When I say it again I say it for your benefit.. To clear up what I mean exactly... So im not being cryptic

Uhm. "something about you clashes with my modesty >.> " is completely different than "I dont like you at some level". How else am I supposed to interpret the former? I can't read minds, thankfully, so if someone fails to properly state what they mean how am I supposed to know what is really meant?

Knowing that you don't like him was already given by your inital post so why go and say it in a different way? Again, you should've stated it as you did when you "cleared it up" for me. Would save us a lot of this unecessary hassle.

PieOwns · #**115** 06-03-2003, 12:42 AM

I cant read minds

I dont know how you interpret things and thus dont know how to say them. I have said this twice already. Also.. When I said something about you clashes with my modesty.. It wasnt that I felt he was belittling me or beating me in some way.. I meant that his modesty is very.. Low o.o

G_yoshi · #**116** 06-03-2003, 12:49 AM

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I cant read minds I dont know how you interpret things and thus dont know how to say them. I have said this twice already. Also.. When I said something about you clashes with my modesty.. It wasnt that I felt he was belittling me or beating me in some way.. I meant that his modesty is very.. Low o.o

Thus, bragging that you were more modest than him. Its the same way with saying you're more mature than someone else. If you are so modest then you'd say nothing at all and let him dig his own hole. Being modest is simply being modest and not trying to draw attention to yourself or the fact that you are or might be. If that isn't what you meant then you should've just said that rather than saying it as you did.

I've done this before. I've said something and then went back and tried to explain that I meant something else before. I wasn't very successful at convincing people and in turn just hurt myself.

PieOwns · #**117** 06-03-2003, 12:51 AM

I said what I mean. You thought I meant something else. I didnt say I was more modest... I said his is low. Anyways, I have proven my point.. Argueing with you is like talking to rubber.. nothing sticks. I've said the interpreting bit three times now. Im closing the browser for now. Later.

G_yoshi · #**118** 06-03-2003, 12:59 AM

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I said what I mean. You thought I meant something else. I didnt say I was more modest... I said his is low. Anyways, I have proven my point.. Argueing with you is like talking to rubber.. nothing sticks. I've said the interpreting bit three times now. Im closing the browser for now. Later.

lol! I can't magically draw from thin air that you're bragging. Your post lends itself to this conclusion all on its own. Its right there before my eyes. It stabs them with such intensity how can I ignore it?

For the fourth time, if that isn't what you meant, then you should not have said that. I'm not convinced in anyway that you intended it to simply mean you dislike Kaimetsu. Accusing someone of having little to no modesty makes you no better. How hard is that to understand?

I think your IQ is that of a bucket....wait, that's not what I meant! I simply meant that I don't like you.

Now, tell me how hard it was to not draw the conclusion that I said you were dumb? Its far easier to see that than 'I don't like you', yes? It also makes me no better for insulting you since such things are common for ignorant persons, like myself.

Milkdude99 · #**119** 06-03-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by PieOwns
I said what I mean. You thought I meant something else. I didnt say I was more modest... I said his is low. Anyways, I have proven my point.. Argueing with you is like talking to rubber.. nothing sticks. I've said the interpreting bit three times now. Im closing the browser for now. Later.

Look I agree with what you said, modesty is not a trait Kai seems to have nor is he humble in any way. I have had my bouts with him many times but it is a losing battle to debate it here. He is talented; intelligent yet lacks the humility of social graces by promoting himself to the forefront at every opportunity. It is what he is and he isn't going to change for you or I or anyone else. If he changes at all it will be because it is what he wants not from some outside pressure. So all you can say is "well that's Kai" like it or not.

G_yoshi · #**120** 06-03-2003, 01:07 AM

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Look I agree with what you said, modesty is not a trait Kai seems to have nor is he humble in any way. I have had my bouts with him many times but it is a losing battle to debate it here. He is talented; intelligent yet lacks the humility of social graces by promoting himself to the forefront at every opportunity. It is what he is and he isn't going to change for you or I or anyone else. If he changes at all it will be because it is what he wants not from some outside pressure. So all you can say is "well that's Kai" like it or not.

And you are one to talk