GIF - June 20th - Page 2

CheeToS2 · #16 05-29-2003, 09:24 PM

*feels sorry for Moon God(dess)*

zell12 · #17 05-29-2003, 09:35 PM

Stefan, you should probably filter the graphics extensions to .png and .mng, they support 24bit-colors, and would be the better choice according to you.

tlf288 · #18 05-29-2003, 10:45 PM

Who had the GIF patent anways? And, how were they keeping people from using GIFs?

Angel · #19 05-29-2003, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288
Who had the GIF patent anways? And, how were they keeping people from using GIFs?

I BELIVE CompuServe own the patent. (AOL owns CompuServ remeber). And they can stop anyone from useing it since they own the compression method.

Spark910 · #20 05-29-2003, 11:09 PM

Thats would be correct:
Compuserve Graphics Interchange (.gif)

draygin · #21 05-29-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
That isnt my beef anyway...the fact that I have been converting everything over for over a week because he said Graal will no longer support gif's burns me up...I could really care less which format is used, but I do care about wasting my time

It's like the time I converted all of Providence from .graal to .nw links level names etc.. Only to find out after I was done that there was a program which did it for you in a matter of seconds. Man was I fuming. ;x

Python523 · #22 05-29-2003, 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

It's like the time I converted all of Providence from .graal to .nw links level names etc.. Only to find out after I was done that there was a program which did it for you in a matter of seconds. Man was I fuming. ;x

haha i was just thinking that =P I saw that you posted here and thought
'Hmm...Marty is probably *****ing about the time I made him convert all of Providence's levels and then I found a program to do it the day after'
XD <3

Darlene159 · #23 05-30-2003, 01:37 AM

Well, I am still going to continue the converting process, who is to say later on we are told again we have to get rid of gif's....might as well do it now...I just wont be in such a hurry to do it now since graal will still support gif files

Angel · #24 05-30-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
Well, I am still going to continue the converting process, who is to say later on we are told again we have to get rid of gif's....might as well do it now...I just wont be in such a hurry to do it now since graal will still support gif files

*Makes a program to convert all the levels/scripts with .gif to change to .png....* hehe

Admins · #25 05-30-2003, 03:15 AM

We said it 2 years ago or so, didn't know the thing is going to be free soon. The legallity of supporting gifs was not clear, Unisys only charged the producers of programs that could write gifs. png and mngs are better than gif because they use better compression and allow more options, like mngs can contain jpegs or be 24bit. A problem is that many programs don't support them correctly, Adobe even had problems with png.
The gif format formerly referenced as 'compuserve interchange format' because it was the image format used in the compuserve network, later when it was becoming famous in the internet someone got the idea to charge fees for using it and bought the patents.

Darlene159 · #26 05-30-2003, 03:47 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
We said it 2 years ago or so, didn't know the thing is going to be free soon. The legallity of supporting gifs was not clear, Unisys only charged the producers of programs that could write gifs. png and mngs are better than gif because they use better compression and allow more options, like mngs can contain jpegs or be 24bit. A problem is that many programs don't support them correctly, Adobe even had problems with png.
The gif format formerly referenced as 'compuserve interchange format' because it was the image format used in the compuserve network, later when it was becoming famous in the internet someone got the idea to charge fees for using it and bought the patents.

Err, you also posted a week or two ago that graal wasnt going to support gif's anymore =/

Neglegence2002 · #27 05-30-2003, 03:57 AM

I heard about Graal not using .gifs anymore, but what stoped people from using them? I looks through my webgifs folder and find that most of them are .gifs. So i dont know what really stoped people from uploading gifs, lol.

Kaimetsu · #28 05-30-2003, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
What makes the difference? They just look better to me, ok?
That isnt the issue anyway

...I think you're being over-hostile here. The difference is that if a better program converts them perfectly - such that they don't look worse than GIFs, and often look better - then PNGs and MNGs will purely be a better choice for your world. That knowledge is surely of some use...

tlf288 · #29 05-30-2003, 04:30 AM

I know for a fact that when I save images as GIFs they get all "spotted" with different colors. So I always used PNGs.

Darlene159 · #30 05-30-2003, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

...I think you're being over-hostile here. The difference is that if a better program converts them perfectly - such that they don't look worse than GIFs, and often look better - then PNGs and MNGs will purely be a better choice for your world. That knowledge is surely of some use...

I am using the gif2mng program to convert them...it doesnt matter anyway because I am still going to convert them all anyway, and I wasnt being hostile...It might be that they just look different on my computer, I dont know

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I know for a fact that when I save images as GIFs they get all "spotted" with different colors. So I always used PNGs.

I agree, I like the png's better too