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Old 05-23-2003, 09:53 AM
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Red face Another Suggestion/Fixes

Sorry this is 3rd Suggestion thread

Remove peaceful mode, make PvP fair, and when you die, you should be protected from ANY attacks for 5 minutes, so people don't continously kill you.

Why remove peaceful mode you ask?
Your answer is Balance!
1.) Roleplaying purposes, what if you wanna invade a kingdom, but all the people there on the island are on PEACEFUL mode... totally defeating the semi purpose of the server, KINGDOM unexpected INVASIONS/BATTLES.
2.) Making IWD balance out ONLY In battles PvP, making your weapon nerf to only +1 damage of each IWD You have on your weapon, so lets say I have a diamond blade, 9+ damage, with 6 improvements, I fight a guy the damage drops from 47 to +15, and Armor Class, do something about this with the people over -30 AC... same with WC

Better Gameplay..:
Make ShortSwords/Swords- only usable by warriors
Daggers/Bows/-only usable by thieves, come out with more weapons
axes/flails/war hammers-barbarians
wands/spells/- priests and wizards
wands/spells/daggers/-alchemists

level restrictions on items
and remove those stupid skill scrolls, only remaining skill scrols should be like the misc ones...
melee classes CAN NEVER LEARN MAGIC
barbs cant learn reading either
and if u dont wanna remove skill scrolls, atleast make an overalllevel restriction to learn a major skill like melee or legedermain

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ORRRRRR
REMOVE ALL CLASSES, make only 2 CLASSES ,
and you can PICK your stats, and you start out with a Training Wand, Training Dagger,etc.
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--possibly remove improve weapon damage--
reasons:cheap lame and unbalanced
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:18 AM
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Not just nerfed in PvP. Monsters have insane HP because weapons do insane damage. Nerf damage et al, reduce Monster HP accordingly such that the most insanely upgraded sword ever does, at most, twice the damage of a diamond sword, so it's only a little easier with an IWDed sword to kill an Iguanadon than with a Normal Sword such that the poor aren't wholly screwed.
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Old 05-23-2003, 03:09 PM
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About the peaceful mode thing, I have one thing to say. No. It would be extremely annoying if you were sitting on the main island and one of those annoying PKers run up to you and kill you while you're doing something like reading these forums while waiting for a shop to restock. And about the whole kingdoms being in Peaceful mode, maybe there should be some sort of battle option where if your kingdom is getting attacked, everyone online and on the island will go in battle mode.
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Old 05-23-2003, 07:48 PM
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Whos fault is that?
Your not suppose to idle in this game dang game, why can't you people get this through your head.

People can summon monsters and kill you, they can dig shell bomys and kill you, they can do a hell of alot of things to kill you even if your peaceful,

Addition:/Fix:

Level 1-5 Can't be hurt by anyone level 6+ they are protected by an aura.

1-5 can pk eachother but can't get attacked by 6+

Just so they can level up.

Also.. I think starter island should'nt be used for tutorial.
It should be an island with newbie dungeons, and the tutorial should be in a house you start out in a burnt home or something.
The starter island- this would get you on your feet, to level 1-5 or possibly stay there for more levels.
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:09 PM
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I bet you're going to whine when you get pked all the time by stronger players - or weaker ones while you're chatting, away for a moment, whatever - maybe you just fought a rex, are low in HP and someone runs by. You'll lose money, items and nerves. What's wrong with everyone being in peaceful mode except those who really want to pk? I like it the way it is.
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Know what thats a WHAT IF question?
Your not even SUPPOSE To ask that question.
IN other games with no such thing as peaceful mode, if you fighting a monster and you got done attacking it and you have half health, a guy might attack you if they want.
YOU CAN't control what people will do.

And maybe this, if we ever have player corpses, bones drop when a person dies. And you double click the bones a dialogue would open with your items in it.
Right click the corpse it will say what it was killed by.
Wonderboy_13 killed by Smoky
Wonderboy_13 killed by btedjj

If the monster did 51% damage of your health and a guy attacks you and he or she does 49% then that person wouldn't be able to loot you.

Comments please.

Corpses wouldnt be openable by anyone but the player who killed you, and of course monsters wouldnt loot you.
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Old 05-24-2003, 01:48 AM
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So someone kills you to 99% and you run, escape and a bomy gets the last % of you - the attacker can loot you? I don't like the idea. Also, Graal isn't like other games, so peacefulmode makes sense to me. Corpses may be nice, but might be abused, too - to block the way or something. You have to realise that you'll always have abuse in GK - and peaceful mode makes the game much more pleasant and fun to play, concidering that.
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Old 05-24-2003, 06:37 AM
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Quote:
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Know what thats a WHAT IF question?
Your not even SUPPOSE To ask that question.
IN other games with no such thing as peaceful mode, if you fighting a monster and you got done attacking it and you have half health, a guy might attack you if they want.
YOU CAN't control what people will do.


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And in even other games, there's no player versus player, I think the choice of whether to fight or not is a good one.
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Old 05-29-2003, 01:48 AM
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Re: Another Suggestion/Fixes

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wonderboy_13
Sorry this is 3rd Suggestion thread

Remove peaceful mode, make PvP fair, and when you die, you should be protected from ANY attacks for 5 minutes, so people don't continously kill you.

Why remove peaceful mode you ask?
Your answer is Balance!
1.) Roleplaying purposes, what if you wanna invade a kingdom, but all the people there on the island are on PEACEFUL mode... totally defeating the semi purpose of the server, KINGDOM unexpected INVASIONS/BATTLES.
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Dude if you want peace ful mode to be gone then good ridence to you sir! Here's current graal before myself and the rest of the DeBug team finishes this collasol project (thanks for the mostly great idea's ). The way Kingdoms is right now is that people have damages above 50 on a weapon. Now once (if) the stat potions come out thats gonna be way to easy to buy for PK's and Power gamers so here you have PK'ers doing 10 damage with out karate then having insane weapons that do 50+ damage and each stat at 30 making things dirt cheap and spells wicked strong. Gee until there is a server restart, there is a maximum level, there is a maximum upgrade bonus and we filter through to power ful weapons then maybe yes. Of course why not have a feature so when you drag a symbol near your HP a window comes up that says to the other person "Would you like to spar "nickname here" then yeah that would be cool then every one can be on peaceful and low level people woudn't have to worry (or high level people that dont want to loose everything)about being hassled about people that kill them for there money. Sorry to counter that idea but if you look at the state that graal is in today on Kingdoms no just no. And dont come back saying somthing nasty because im intitled to my rights so are you. im just pointing out what havoc that would bring to at least 19/20's of the server.
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Old 05-29-2003, 05:25 AM
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Removing Peaceful mode won't balance the server... it would just make things chaotic...
Level restrictions on items kills the chance of lower level chars killing higher levels...
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