Abode Project

Knuckles · #1 05-19-2003, 04:47 AM

Alright, before I say anything.. I just want to mention that the Playerworld Project's name is NOT ADOBE, but it is ABODE. Look closely and you'll see the diffrence.

Ok, straight to the point. Abode is a under-construction playerworld project that a few people are currently working on. We're hoping to get it up private asap, and we will be talking to Stefan and such about it soon. Some of you may already know about this, and others may not. So here is a glimpse of what you'll see on our playerworld.

We'll release maybe one more screenshot in the near future, and we're not releasing the storyline and idea's until later on.

These graphic's where made by Dusty, aka S.S. Link.
(The cliff top's are still being worked on, and so is the GUI).

Mykel · #2 05-19-2003, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by Knuckles
Alright, before I say anything.. I just want to mention that the Playerworld Project's name is NOT ADOBE, but it is ABODE. Look closely and you'll see the diffrence.

Ok, straight to the point. Abode is a under-construction playerworld project that a few people are currently working on. We're hoping to get it up private asap, and we will be talking to Stefan and such about it soon. Some of you may already know about this, and others may not. So here is a glimpse of what you'll see on our playerworld.

We'll release maybe one more screenshot in the near future, and we're not releasing the storyline and idea's until later on.

That rox. (although i have seen it b4).
I love that. And love the bodies.

Nitkizi · #3 05-19-2003, 04:51 AM

Looks great, good luck Knuckles

G_yoshi · #4 05-19-2003, 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by Knuckles
Alright, before I say anything.. I just want to mention that the Playerworld Project's name is NOT ADOBE, but it is ABODE. Look closely and you'll see the diffrence.

Ok, straight to the point. Abode is a under-construction playerworld project that a few people are currently working on. We're hoping to get it up private asap, and we will be talking to Stefan and such about it soon. Some of you may already know about this, and others may not. So here is a glimpse of what you'll see on our playerworld.

We'll release maybe one more screenshot in the near future, and we're not releasing the storyline and idea's until later on.

These graphic's where made by Dusty, aka S.S. Link.
(The cliff top's are still being worked on, and so is the GUI).

*sniff, sniff*
Hmm. Looks nice, but certain tiles look familiar. The walls and the grass. Grass looks like Seiken Densetsu 3 grass:

Knuckles · #5 05-19-2003, 05:01 AM

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Dusty: :-) Also, tell G-Yoshi that SOM3 was an insperation. :-p

'Nuff said.

G_yoshi · #6 05-19-2003, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Knuckles

'Nuff said.

Inspiration or not, I'm very good at picking these things out. By the way, there is no such thing as SoM3.

...and no posting for others

ETD · #7 05-19-2003, 05:10 AM

looks good exept the cliff (i thought it was just a bunch of rocks at first)
but you said you were working on it
=)

I like the house, and the body is cool, as long as you have enough variations =P

Mykel · #8 05-19-2003, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by ETD
looks good exept the cliff (i thought it was just a bunch of rocks at first)
but you said you were working on it
=)

I like the house, and the body is cool, as long as you have enough variations =P

Isn't a cliff a bunch of rocks?

funnylinkwantsbomys · #9 05-19-2003, 07:53 AM

the house is too small...the guys head is almost to the roof

Knuckles · #10 05-19-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
Isn't a cliff a bunch of rocks?

...And Graal's original tileset isn't? :-p

Python523 · #11 05-19-2003, 08:12 AM

If you are working on other projects besides your own server, then quit frolic, you don't deserve to manager if you can't stay dedicated enough to only work on your server

Knuckles · #12 05-19-2003, 08:24 AM

If/when Abode becomes private, I will have alot to consider. Until then, I do have enough time to be dedicated to Frolic during the course of a day. However, I do agree that one should be dedicated to only one server, but... I can't. Frolic's finally startin' off. We have an average playercount of 10 now. I know it doesn't seem like much to you guys, but it's slowly and steadily increasing. And i'm actually happy to have 10.

Frolic doesn't have anyone to manage it if I leave, which i'm not planning to do. If anything, i'd probibly step down to a lower position on Abode and let Dusty or Eric take my position -- while somehow still being a part of the server.

I do want to be part of both, but if I can't do enough work or if it's to stressful, i'll have to come to a decision. As of now, i'll stick with both...Maybe i'll even replace Frolic with Abode, but I doubt that. =p

If anyone is instrested in finding more about Abode, or Frolic, please visit our forum at... http://www.teamgex.com/forum

Androk · #13 05-19-2003, 03:28 PM

That screenshot is very good

I like the gfx, the character, everything.

And everyone always has problems with making a cliff -.-'. Cliff is where everybody hangs so to say :P.

syltburk · #14 05-19-2003, 04:03 PM

it seems like everyone with a good outlook and graphic server just wanna get on a free ride as fast as possible....

why cant you guys make the playerworld, fix the graphics, make the scripts
let PWAs look at it, and if they think its good they pass it?
it gets private maibe as gold or whatever but they fix the bugs and the smalls things that need to be done.

Its better to have a server dead without giving it a server then seeing it dies and just see it use space for nothing

Androk · #15 05-19-2003, 05:12 PM

Because servers that are of that quality require certain scripting that can only be done with NPC Server.

ETD · #16 05-19-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Mykel
Isn't a cliff a bunch of rocks?

not really..
i meant it looks more like a pile of rocks... and not a cliff at all.

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Originally posted by syltburk
it seems like everyone with a good outlook and graphic server just wanna get on a free ride as fast as possible....

why cant you guys make the playerworld, fix the graphics, make the scripts
let PWAs look at it, and if they think its good they pass it?

well, one thing is... as far as i know, they won't be accepting new servers till the pay option comes out...
also, any server which is public, BEFORE the pay system comes out will have 1 free year (i think)

so, if they can get up around the PWA, then get public before the pay system comes out... that could save them a lot of cashmoneys
=P

Mykel · #17 05-19-2003, 09:45 PM

Well, he can use Frolic's NPC server for any scripts he needs.

Spark910 · #18 05-19-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
so, if they can get up around the PWA, then get public before the pay system comes out... that could save them a lot of cashmoneys
=P

Not going to happen. We arent accepting any until the pay system comes out. There a reason for doing that, which you will see when full public details are released.

finChY · #19 05-19-2003, 11:10 PM

Good Job Knucles,and S.S Link. I like the house tiles,and the grass. I dont like the body much. I think it would be good if a bunch of you graphic artists made a server rather than making a different one for all of you.

Dude6252000 · #20 05-19-2003, 11:54 PM

Looks good. I might even make ganis for a server with that kind of quality. :O Now I have an urge to play Seiken Densetsu 3, though.

konidias · #21 05-20-2003, 12:05 AM

Okay it's nice to see a new playerworld being developed. I'll throw in my nine cents:

1) The windows on the house seem rather tiny. I mean I don't think a bird could fit through them. They should be a little wider.

2) The wooden borders on the house are crazy. It looks like somebody got a bit too happy with the wood. What's with the weird squares near the windows and stuff? They don't seem to serve any structural purpose to the house...

3) The rocks seem a little too pixelated around the edges, especially the one to the right of the character.

5) Your trees kind of look flat, also, the treelimbs shouldn't be "connected" to the trunk like that. They look like they were glued on. You should make the limbs blend into the tree as one solid object.

6) The cliffs could at least have some diagonal tiles. It's too squared off.

7) The character seems rather tall in comparison with everything else. Now I know that Graal does the same, but Graal characters are chubby, yours is very skinny and it just kinda makes it stick out more. Also, the positioning of the legs... I don't know if you were going for a megaman leg stance style or whatever, but it really sucks.

Sorry to be so blunt, but with the guy totally facing to the side, there is no way his legs could be in that position, unless he broke his hip.

8) I also wanted to note on the importance of blending everything together, including the timeline. From the looks of the house and sword, you're using a medieval type deal... Yet the character is wearing baggy white pants and a white shirt with a red line around the wrist that look like modern clothes. I'm just wondering why the guy has a modern hairstyle, and modern clothes, back in medieval times. If it's not medieval times, I'm wondering why you have a medieval looking house and why the guy is carrying a sword.

9) The top left status thing is not attractive at all. Please get rid of it and make something else. It doesn't match any of the other graphics there.

Knuckles · #22 05-20-2003, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Okay it's nice to see a new playerworld being developed. I'll throw in my nine cents:

1) The windows on the house seem rather tiny. I mean I don't think a bird could fit through them. They should be a little wider.

2) The wooden borders on the house are crazy. It looks like somebody got a bit too happy with the wood. What's with the weird squares near the windows and stuff? They don't seem to serve any structural purpose to the house...

3) The rocks seem a little too pixelated around the edges, especially the one to the right of the character.

5) Your trees kind of look flat, also, the treelimbs shouldn't be "connected" to the trunk like that. They look like they were glued on. You should make the limbs blend into the tree as one solid object.

6) The cliffs could at least have some diagonal tiles. It's too squared off.

7) The character seems rather tall in comparison with everything else. Now I know that Graal does the same, but Graal characters are chubby, yours is very skinny and it just kinda makes it stick out more. Also, the positioning of the legs... I don't know if you were going for a megaman leg stance style or whatever, but it really sucks. Sorry to be so blunt, but with the guy totally facing to the side, there is no way his legs could be in that position, unless he broke his hip.

8) I also wanted to note on the importance of blending everything together, including the timeline. From the looks of the house and sword, you're using a medieval type deal... Yet the character is wearing baggy white pants and a white shirt with a red line around the wrist that look like modern clothes. I'm just wondering why the guy has a modern hairstyle, and modern clothes, back in medieval times. If it's not medieval times, I'm wondering why you have a medieval looking house and why the guy is carrying a sword.

9) The top left status thing is not attractive at all. Please get rid of it and make something else. It doesn't match any of the other graphics there.

Thanks for your input. And that status thing in the top left corner is just for debuggin' =p. It's not going to actually be there.

davidpsy · #23 05-20-2003, 03:26 AM

Very nice tiles I like lots of detail and colors my self but it looks like there is even though there is not very many colors good job =D. I got a feeling that this server is not ment to look really really realistic thats why the char is as big as the roof almost and stuff.

HoudiniMan · #24 05-20-2003, 03:45 AM

Just my humble opinion as a newbie GFX pixel artist but i think the character could lose a pixel or two on the next, a couple on the straighter parts of the chest and the legs to keep proportions... i might tinker with him later and post an example, i find it helps most when i can show people the difference

HoudiniMan · #25 05-20-2003, 04:15 AM

Here's my example, as promised, well... not really...

Anywho, you can see that i made him a full 7 pixels shorter while still maintaining his look and perspective (to my eyes anyway).

The method i used was to look for areas where the verticle lines matched between two rows of pixels, the detailing doesn't really matter since it's random for the most part anyway... Just in case you want to apply it to all your graphics.

Nitkizi · #26 05-20-2003, 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
Here's my example, as promised, well... not really...

Anywho, you can see that i made him a full 7 pixels shorter while still maintaining his look and perspective (to my eyes anyway).

The method i used was to look for areas where the verticle lines matched between two rows of pixels, the detailing doesn't really matter since it's random for the most part anyway... Just in case you want to apply it to all your graphics.

On yours it looks like the head is being shoved down the guys throat, lol

Knuckles · #27 05-20-2003, 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
Here's my example, as promised, well... not really...

Anywho, you can see that i made him a full 7 pixels shorter while still maintaining his look and perspective (to my eyes anyway).

The method i used was to look for areas where the verticle lines matched between two rows of pixels, the detailing doesn't really matter since it's random for the most part anyway... Just in case you want to apply it to all your graphics.

I dunno if I like the idea of a smaller body. we'll see. ^_^> Thanks though.

Maybe we'll just pretend that he's a giant from the middle ages.. lmao.

Python523 · #28 05-20-2003, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Knuckles
If/when Abode becomes private, I will have alot to consider. Until then, I do have enough time to be dedicated to Frolic during the course of a day. However, I do agree that one should be dedicated to only one server, but... I can't. Frolic's finally startin' off. We have an average playercount of 10 now. I know it doesn't seem like much to you guys, but it's slowly and steadily increasing. And i'm actually happy to have 10.

Frolic doesn't have anyone to manage it if I leave, which i'm not planning to do. If anything, i'd probibly step down to a lower position on Abode and let Dusty or Eric take my position -- while somehow still being a part of the server.

I do want to be part of both, but if I can't do enough work or if it's to stressful, i'll have to come to a decision. As of now, i'll stick with both...Maybe i'll even replace Frolic with Abode, but I doubt that. =p

If anyone is instrested in finding more about Abode, or Frolic, please visit our forum at... http://www.teamgex.com/forum

Not a good enough excuse, since it still distracts you from Frolic currently. Sorry for being negative but it's IDIOTIC to be working on two projects at once and being positions of AUTHORITY in both cases. You may be happy with 10 but the server has potential for better, any server does, and by working on other projects you are killing that potential.

Projectshifter · #29 05-20-2003, 05:27 AM

Coolies Knuckles.
I know Knuckles, he's a good guy. I think he can manager Frolic and be a big part of Abode and be adaquate at both =)
---Shifter

Knuckles · #30 05-20-2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Python523

Not a good enough excuse, since it still distracts you from Frolic currently. Sorry for being negative but it's IDIOTIC to be working on two projects at once and being positions of AUTHORITY in both cases. You may be happy with 10 but the server has potential for better, any server does, and by working on other projects you are killing that potential.

Nah son. We hit 17 players today. It's not distracting me at all, if it where, i'd stop. BUT it's not... not yet atleast.

Knuckles · #31 05-20-2003, 05:43 AM

Since it isn't a major update, it's just the same image as before, but bigger... Dusty wanted me to show you his changed cliffs.. and stuff. Here's a full level screenshot.... ^_^.

Python523 · #32 05-20-2003, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter
Coolies Knuckles.
I know Knuckles, he's a good guy. I think he can manager Frolic and be a big part of Abode and be adaquate at both =)
---Shifter

I don't care if he's jevus, nemesis made kamuii step down from providence when he was manager of 2k1, why should another person get different treatment? I thought kamuii did a decent job, don't recall me and lyndzey ever wanting him removed (she and I were the comanagers at the name) more than once, and that one time was just out of anger I believe.

Soul-Blade · #33 05-20-2003, 01:05 PM

Pure STUPIDITY to manage 2 worlds at once. I barely have enough time to work on Shifting Ages, and even if I had more help then I do, I would still be in the same position. If you are truly making something great to bring to Graal, there is not a CHANCE in hell that you can manage 2 worlds.

As for the screenshot, as I had said on AIM to whoever IMs me, it looks good, but I see flaws in the trees and cliffs. I also now see flaws in the house detailing. I think Konidias has covered all that nicely, so I won't go into detail.

Spark910 · #34 05-20-2003, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
[B]Pure STUPIDITY to manage 2 worlds at once. I barely have enough time to work on Shifting Ages, and even if I had more help then I do, I would still be in the same position. If you are truly making something great to bring to Graal, there is not a CHANCE in hell that you can manage 2 worlds.[B]

We are talking over if this is against the rules. Unfortunatly managing 2 servers will probably be set against the rules as you do not have enough time to do either correctly. And as Jagen said about kamuii.

Eric_1337 · #35 05-20-2003, 06:03 PM

Wait a minute here, I completely understand where you guyz are coming from. He shouldn't be managing two ONLINE servers, or even two servers when one is private. This isn't the case yet, this server is still underconstruction. As of the past week, all knuckles can really do for Abode is give off ideas and comments because he can't do any of the graphics, let alone would our gfx admin would allow him too. Now if he was working on it day and night like our gfx admin is, then it would be a different story. Trufully right now, he is completely devoted to frolic.

Like he stated before, as soon as we get private or if he can find a decent manager to manage frolic... he is going to still be working on Frolic for the time being. If he can't find one, then he will pass the server to me or dusty. I don't see what the big problem is. You have no clue what he is currently doing to either servers nor is it any of your business.

Please, stick to the comments about the server it self... I'd really appriciate it.

P.S. I was the one that sent you that screenshot soulblade

melissa1988 · #36 05-20-2003, 07:08 PM

It's cause all these people know how to do is Guttersnipe Eric.

MadWolf · #37 05-20-2003, 07:44 PM

Looks good. Keep it up, I'm glad Dusty isn't wasting his talent on Bravo. Though, you should not work on two servers at once. I tryed it... it blowed. People always asking for gfx... not worth it. Stick to one server and you wont get tense like I did.

Eric_1337 · #38 05-20-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by MadWolf
Looks good. Keep it up, I'm glad Dusty isn't wasting his talent on Bravo. Though, you should not work on two servers at once. I tryed it... it blowed. People always asking for gfx... not worth it. Stick to one server and you wont get tense like I did.

I comepletely agree with you... working on two servers is a big problem, but isn't koni still like a high ranking staff member with a lot of responsibilty or something? Isn't he still working on his server and another position... maybe he stopped that or something, if not... then it shouldn't be permitted either. I dunno I've been gone ever since Faheria went down.

Spark910 · #39 05-20-2003, 07:49 PM

hmmm but you may also not be aloud to work on another server when you are Manager of one. We will get some rules drafted up.

Eric_1337 · #40 05-20-2003, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910
hmmm but you may also not be aloud to work on another server when you are Manager of one. We will get some rules drafted up.

Technically, he is only managing one. the other one hasn't even been issued to any kind of higher authority, and I'm sure it won't apply if it hasn't been considered by any kind of graal higher authority besides this forum.