New PWA members

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

After strenuous hours working late at the office and churning up overtime (just kidding) we have three new members for the PW team. Originally, we were going to have 4, but the 4th member has yet to be decided. We hope to have the 4th member listed here by the end of the week. Anyhow, the three new members are:

-Kisharha
-Spark911
-Houdiniman

Congratulations to them. Either Nemesis or I will be getting in contact with you in the near future (or you can get in contact with me, even easier). You'll get more information about what your jobs are and what's expected of you later on, for now, just hold tight.

[Darlene159]

Congratulations guys

[Nemesis]

I would like to say it was not an easy choice....12 out of 55 applications it was narrowed down to.

AS picked the majority I went over and just told him my thoughts. He would be primary incharge of this team...so I gave him most of the input since it will be his main focus and mine as well but more so his to get him in the feel of things.

Everyone who made it to the final 12 is being held there, and I will ask for more applicants in the future incase of expanding or unfortunate losses to our team...Those who had an exceptional application, have been hired, also those who did make the 12 are in line incase anything were to happen to the team.

We currently may expand the team to 1-2 more people, so out of the 12 people, you may receive an email in the coming few days to convince us why you deserve this spot..

Congrats to everyone...we tried to be fair as possible...hiring is never easy...and just hopefully others can see the teams value rise, and hopefully we can get more work done so we now can review your worlds...help you more so with your problems, etc etc etc....

p.s. Do not ask when to apply. I will announce if we need more applicants. So have faith and keep posting and do what you've been doing and you could be next on the PW team...Things may change with the new pay for your server deal, but we will keep this going as far as we can. =D

[Dude6252000]

Hopefully you won't use the same apps, because I messed up on mine, I accidently sent the e-mail before I was done typing it. :x

[Mykel]

Congrats Guys, (And Girl)

[zell12]

As long as Loriel isn't on the team I am happy, he never plays classic anyway. Hehe, yey for sparkie.

[Knuckles]

Congrats to everyone... And goodluck to those who still have a chance..

[ETD]

w00tw00t!!!!

Kisharha - not mad at me about the pot thing on enigma the other night, right? =x

Spark911 - hi XD you seem cool =P

Houdiniman - w00tw00t!

good job all three of you!

*thinks for a sec*
*remembers Houdiniman was one of his NATs*

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
:'(

[Neglegence2002]

Congrats, i had a feeling Spark would make it. I hope they can acculy run the team unlike last time, when it took like 3 weeks for 1 review.

[HoudiniMan]

Hooray!

[Angel]

-Kisharha - HA Great way to look at someone History. Didnt you presonally remove her as Manager of Babylon?. Didnt she cause alot of trouble.

-Spark911 - Ha Yes! You Deserve it man!

-Houdiniman -- Dont know him too well but no problem..


Good Luck Guys. You have it easier than I did.. Atleast there is a team for you to work with.

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Angel
-Kisharha - HA Great way to look at someone History. Didnt you presonally remove her as Manager of Babylon?. Didnt she cause alot of trouble.

-Spark911 - Ha Yes! You Deserve it man!

-Houdiniman -- Dont know him too well but no problem..


Good Luck Guys. You have it easier than I did.. Atleast there is a team for you to work with.

Yea Nemesis removed Kisharha from the position of manager of babylon. >.> Figures that Kish is PWA.

Good job Spark and Houdiniman

[syltburk]

Kishara- X.X WTF Nem i thought u would be smarter then that

Spark: Awesome

Houdini: Ive just seen him argue alot with Tifa.


Im only satisfied with Spark

[Spark910]

IM at school right now, and cant physically wait to get home. Thankyou to Nem and Aftershock for letting me on the team. I will do everything I can to help with PWs. At the moment I have got to re-download Dead-AIM and then I will have a screen-name just for PWA. As I have family and friends on my current s/n, and so, I don’t want to do all the PWA through that. But for now, I will gladly help best I can through AIM/E-mail/ICQ.


Contacts
AIM: spark911pwa
YIM: spark911pwa
MSN: [email protected]
E-mail: spark911pwa
Forum PM: Spark910

ICQ: I've decided to keep that private and to my self. If I wish to talk via that, I will add you.

Forum PM: If you want to do it that way, thats the only one I can see at school, so that may be a good option to tell me about problems. Although I can't do anything, as I don't have graal there =P


Thankyous:
Well thankyou! Yay. I've calmed down a bit now. Bye

Also thankyou to my supports: MoonGod, MoonGoddess, ChrisZ, Mystical Dragon, and I think it was Tifa. And thankyou to everyone who feels happy I got on the team =D

As by the sounds of it, it did come down to supports, as it was close. Anyway here are my online details:

Weekdays: 3:30-4:00PM GMT
Weekdays: 6:00-10:00PM GMT
Weekends: Any time really, whenever.

They are the BASIC outline for when im online, so there you go.

Originally posted by Nemesis
Everyone who made it to the final 12 is being held there, and I will ask for more applicants in the future incase of expanding or unfortunate losses to our team...Those who had an exceptional application, have been hired, also those who did make the 12 are in line incase anything were to happen to the team.

Yeah, sorry to the people who didn't make it, but look on the positive side, if I get run over by a car, or become obsolete, someone else will be hired, lol. =D

Im in Business Studies, and we are in computer rooms, so thats 3Hours of computers so far, plus about 8 from yesterday when I was at home reformating and installing OSs. So my eyes are burning, but i'll be on later tonight. The chances of going on computers in science or English are slim, as it wouldn't fit in with what we are doing, so my eyes will be A-OK by then.

[zell12]

I don't know why Kish was selected, seems kinda... stupid. X_x

[Spark910]

Originally posted by zell12
I don't know why Kish was selected, seems kinda... stupid. X_x

Is kish from America/Canada?
Also, why?

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Spark910
Also, why?

Because Nemesis was clearly biased towards her.

[Mykel]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Because Nemesis was clearly biased towards her.

I didn't want to say anything, but it seems so. They are always on delteria with the same tag, and pk together, and are in the same guilds and are buddy-buddy. This may just be coincidence, but.....

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Mykel
I didn't want to say anything, but it seems so. They are always on delteria with the same tag, and pk together, and are in the same guilds and are buddy-buddy. This may just be coincidence, but.....

Yes you could jump to that conculsion. But conisdering Aftershock has most of the say, he would have been biast. Anyway, we cant hold their friendship against her, she clearly has done a great application else she wouldn't have been hired. Yes we can say they are great friends, but because of that, she shouldn't be knocked down and not be given a chance at this like everyone else. I have no doubt it was a fair pick.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Spark910
Yes you could jump to that conculsion. But conisdering Aftershock has most of the say, he would have been biast. Anyway, we cant hold their friendship against her, she clearly has done a great application else she wouldn't have been hired.

That logic is made out of jelly and ice-cream. We know little about how the selection process was arranged, and it's very unlikely that Nemesis had no influence over the proceedings.

she shouldn't be knocked down and not be given a chance at this like everyone else. I have no doubt it was a fair pick.

I don't have anything against her, and I'm not trying to attack her in any way. I am merely pointing out the very real possibility that Nemesis chose her because of their friendship, and not because of her capacity to do a good job.

[mhermher]

I tough they were dating eachother.. i heard that in babylon, when she went corrupt there

[Spark910]

Okay then, ive changed and got all my contact details. You can get me via:

AIM: spark911pwa
YIM: spark911pwa
MSN: [email protected]
E-mail: [email protected]
ForumPM:Spark910

Okay, you can ignore other details of contact you have of mine, as I would like to ask for all PWA related things to be sent through here if you need me. I have got to talk to Nem and Aftershock to be told what to do, so I can't actually do anything much yet.

Also: I used hotmail as its better for downloads as I can choose to download them seperatly, and not have it all in one big e-mail message which would take longer, and could be annoying, should I need to send an e-mail or recive an important one, as I would have to wait for the message to be fully recived first =D

[SingleChance]

Originally posted by mhermher
I tough they were dating eachother.. i heard that in babylon, when she went corrupt there

I heard that too just the other day...dunno how true it is though.

I think Houdiniman and spark were good choices but i have never even heard of Kisharha except that she was/is dating nemesis or something and that she was fired or something as manager from Babylon...

meh whatever...Congratulations guys!

[ETD]

As far as I know, Nem, and Kish aren't officially dating, but they're good friends...

and i could understand if he did choose her, and the fact they were friends helped (not saying that was why) 0.o'
because, when you really get to know a person, you know more about their character, and who they are. You know what they can, and can not do, and you trust them more... I'm not saying it would be right if that was the only reason why she was picked (i doubt it was), but i can see where it would help her get the job... since with most of the applicants, he knew nothing really about the person applying, other than what they put on the application... but then, with Kish, he obviously knew more, and so could more a more fair judgement of her, than he could have without knowing anything besides what was on the application.

besides, I would think that AfterShock would have said something if she was a wrong choice
=0

Originally posted by Nemesis
AS picked the majority

[Spark910]

Well as Nem said those who hired had a good detailed piece of writting. And so she would have wrote a good one like the others, also im sure she had good supporters too. As ETD said, Nem would have known a bit more about her being friends with her, and so, a truthful character could be conculded about her. And im sure it was a fair and honest choice for who got picked.

[Nemesis]

Here is the deal.....I got 55 Applications....Do you think people can follow an application? I say do this and what does everyone do? They put their own information.

Does anyone know that a PARAGRAPH is not 1 sentence? Oh better yet...2 sentences? I mean half the applications failed because the lacked information, and I said I was wanting what I was wanting. Then people who wrote really well we passed on.

Some people like Zell and Shavo, did not give supports, yet they wrote good applications compared to people who wrote nothing and it was just 5 lines of "hire me" in so many ways without being honest and just getting to the point.

Everyone is going to be bitter and bicker about things. First of all, the team belongs to AfterShock. It is his team, he is in charge of the whole deal. I am incharge of him.

He named 5 people that would be good, and obviously 3 out of the 5 were picked, and then there was a tie between 2 people. Since their applications were close and iti s a tough decision, but it will be made asap.

I am sorry if you are disappointed and think it is corrupt that certain members were hired. But I assure you, that when people cannot follow directions and cannot do certain things that just makes it easier for me, yet at the end of the day there would be about 6 applications who did follow the rules yet were not as good as those who broke them on purpose to allow themselves to be honest and to the point. 3 People told me why they will not get supports and gave the reason which was excellent and I applaud that because hey they were somewhat right....

So if you want to blame someone, blame yourself for A) Not applying B) Not writing enough C) Not trying as hard as you should and putting a lack luster application

So if you want to complain, keep going but it will be sad since if you applied and you were not picked, chances are if you are not in the elite 12 that it was down to, then obviously you have no say since you failed miserably on the application.

I will not name names, no need. AS mainly picked I read over his review and wrote my own prior and his was better than mine, but in the coming weeks the team will mold and shape into something, so regardless those who were picked will do their job, and the next member or members, will do their job...No matter what there is no pleasing everyone, no matter what everyone is gonna complain and whine about who is picked....That is to bad, that is how it is, sorry...but you will have to accept it and move on.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Spark910
Well as Nem said those who hired had a good detailed piece of writting. And so she would have wrote a good one like the others, also im sure she had good supporters too. As ETD said, Nem would have known a bit more about her being friends with her, and so, a truthful character could be conculded about her. And im sure it was a fair and honest choice for who got picked.

It is obvious when a close friend is hired it is like omg corrupt...but the fact is my main vote went to you, and he suggest the other two, and I read over the apps and his little write up on members, so I persauded him in no way and wanted him to make the BEST decision for the applicants.

I just liked yours well enough and I did like Shavo's to but then again I see how this works out but then again it probably would of been magnified 10 fold over that.

But still people need to understand that what was done was in a fair manner, but then again those who were in the "tie" have said somethings here on this forum, and basically costed themself chances to be a part of the team because I believe that negativity is not needed on the team and I cannot speak for AS, but I believe he'd agree and he'll decide on that when it is pointed out to him so his decision for his 4th member could be an easy one

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Nemesis


It is obvious when a close friend is hired it is like omg corrupt...but the fact is my main vote went to you, and he suggest the other two, and I read over the apps and his little write up on members, so I persauded him in no way and wanted him to make the BEST decision for the applicants.

I just liked yours well enough and I did like Shavo's to but then again I see how this works out but then again it probably would of been magnified 10 fold over that.

Thankyou.
Yes I figured that people would have done only a few lines. I wrote mine in Microsoft word and my '3 paragraphs' went over one and half A4 pages. I thought that would be held against me as I would have bored you, but I tired to be intresting.

And to those who didn't get hired I will tell you the basic outline of what I wrote so you can have a nice application: I wrote what was wrong with the current PW team, and how I could help. And an example of this would be that the PWA and the last few has been made up from Americans (I think), and so, A european (me being one) would be good, as Americans have to sleep, and im awake for most part of that, and so if they needed something, I would be able to help. I probably included over 15 things that I think would be improved with me. Im not listing them nor telling them, as I am not doing the work for you. But you need to treat this as a job application and not just say: ''hire me, hire me''. I think I wrote mine for over 2 hours editing parts, as orignally it was 3A4 pages. But I edited out bits I felt didn't need to be in there. So when you do apply, I know you all want to get first, but you don't have to be, you had a week to do so, and im sure if you followed the instructions correctly, AND spent a longer time over what you had wrote, then Nem would have had a bigger choice, and those who didn't get in, may have done so.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Nemesis said there were 55 applications. I was given 12, because the other ones didn't make the cut, I suppose.

From these 12 I wrote a small paragraph (5-6 lines) about the application and this person should /shouldn't be hired. Much of the criteria on which they were based came from their application itself. Someone who puts effort into their application will obviously have a better chance, and it just so happens that these people had longer and more detailed apps. Now this doesn't eman you should all go out and write pages of mindless blabble, it's just that these people said what they were skilled at, and what they were willing to bring to the PWA that was an asset to us. Lots of people said they thought they would make a good choice, and said why, but these people said why they would make a good choice plus how they would react and what they would do in certain situations etc. If you know more about the person you are more likely to go with them.

I also looked at the persons previous history. If they have been banned or are notorious for causing trouble you'll obviously get a lower chance at being a member. Skill comes into factor, what your previous jobs were, what you're good at in terms of level creations. Forum activity? If you use these forums then it's a bonus too as you have an easy way of talking to the community.

These were just some of the criteria. Oh, and about that Kishara thing, that had absolutely nothing to do with Nemesis. She had a good application and elaborated on some of the points above, making her a good candidate. I didn't even know about Nemesis and Kishara being close friends until he told me when I said that she would make a good choice.

[Angel]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Nemesis said there were 55 applications. I was given 12, because the other ones didn't make the cut, I suppose.

From these 12 I wrote a small paragraph (5-6 lines) about the application and this person should /shouldn't be hired. Much of the criteria on which they were based came from their application itself. Someone who puts effort into their application will obviously have a better chance, and it just so happens that these people had longer and more detailed apps. Now this doesn't eman you should all go out and write pages of mindless blabble, it's just that these people said what they were skilled at, and what they were willing to bring to the PWA that was an asset to us. Lots of people said they thought they would make a good choice, and said why, but these people said why they would make a good choice plus how they would react and what they would do in certain situations etc. If you know more about the person you are more likely to go with them.

I also looked at the persons previous history. If they have been banned or are notorious for causing trouble you'll obviously get a lower chance at being a member. Skill comes into factor, what your previous jobs were, what you're good at in terms of level creations. Forum activity? If you use these forums then it's a bonus too as you have an easy way of talking to the community.

These were just some of the criteria. Oh, and about that Kishara thing, that had absolutely nothing to do with Nemesis. She had a good application and elaborated on some of the points above, making her a good candidate. I didn't even know about Nemesis and Kishara being close friends until he told me when I said that she would make a good choice.

. She had a good application and elaborated on some of the points above.... Good Point. She is "notorious for causing trouble", No Forum Activity,Makes ugly levels,Removed from management role like 3 times. Quit like twice. Good Going Team!

[zell12]

The supporters was not a good way for a tie-breaking decision, and if it had to be there, it should have been two or three recomendations -- A paragraph from the supporters explaining why they want this person to represent them in the PWA. It does not matter that much to me that I was not selected because I left out 3 supporters because of the way the resume should have been, not just listing some names of staff on a server.

And I am going to take back the comments I said about Kish, everyone deserves a second chance, even a third. She knows what she had done wrong on Babylon, and is over that -- she paid the price. So lets just no jump to conclusions until you hear both sides of the story. :o

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Angel


. She had a good application and elaborated on some of the points above.... Good Point. She is "notorious for causing trouble", No Forum Activity,Makes ugly levels,Removed from management role like 3 times. Quit like twice. Good Going Team!

And you are little miss perfect? Palease...I mean everyone has faults, yet you post about crap and backstab your own team members? I mean who can trust you. Look at yourself before you sit here and try to eliminate your co-workers when I hear nothing but good about them and negativity about your work. So you need to stop posting here period, or there will be reprocussions to this... I will not stand for staff posting about the team. I think the GST is well put but the fact is that that saga is over and the teams worth has been proven and it is well documented that it is doing as much good as it can....

Yet you whined and quit PWA because you have a problem with authority and cannot take orders because you need to be in charge. Heh , yet you are bashing someone? Palease. Go do your work...And leave this thread

P.S. Do not be mad since you did not pass your application then got onto the GST. Like I said do your work and be good at it and quit posting nonesense when you have no right to speak on the subject when their are faults against you as well on.

Everyone deserves a second chance of faith of doing something great, you get yours, others get theirs, why exclude people and single them out?

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by zell12
The supporters was not a good way for a tie-breaking decision, and if it had to be there, it should have been two or three recomendations -- A paragraph from the supporters explaining why they want this person to represent them in the PWA. It does not matter that much to me that I was not selected because I left out 3 supporters because of the way the resume should have been, not just listing some names of staff on a server.

And I am going to take back the comments I said about Kish, everyone deserves a second chance, even a third. She knows what she had done wrong on Babylon, and is over that -- she paid the price. So lets just no jump to conclusions until you hear both sides of the story. :o

Coming through in the clutch huh? As I put it before.

History is erased people change, she was removed because I was told she quit by like everyone and she tried to come back as staff and I was not having that because she quit and it was not her place to come back, so a new manager was appointed and then it just became a battle of who did what and it was solved privately I believe then now babylon is attempting to make a push towards something but it will get there slowly...

People need to understand, I've spoken about this way to many times, anyhow...The applications still stand where they are, no sense in fighting over who was hired because if they are not meant for the job it will arise, if they are then those who are wrong deserve to man an appology towards those who they said were not fit to be a part of the team.

[Mykel]

Well, congrats to all.

Nemesis:
The reason we find it funny is because Kish never really did anything Dev based on Babylon. And they said she turned corrupt (not sure how much truth is in this).
These are two things that Aftershock named as things that he will look at in deciding the members. And it just happens that she is very good friends with you. It may be perfectly innocent. And it probably is. But some people don't think so.

[Qwert616]

Hm, congratulations to everyone who made it. I hope to see good things out of the new PW team.

[Angel]

Originally posted by Nemesis


And you are little miss perfect? Palease...I mean everyone has faults, yet you post about crap and backstab your own team members? I mean who can trust you. Look at yourself before you sit here and try to eliminate your co-workers when I hear nothing but good about them and negativity about your work. So you need to stop posting here period, or there will be reprocussions to this... I will not stand for staff posting about the team. I think the GST is well put but the fact is that that saga is over and the teams worth has been proven and it is well documented that it is doing as much good as it can....

Yet you whined and quit PWA because you have a problem with authority and cannot take orders because you need to be in charge. Heh , yet you are bashing someone? Palease. Go do your work...And leave this thread

P.S. Do not be mad since you did not pass your application then got onto the GST. Like I said do your work and be good at it and quit posting nonesense when you have no right to speak on the subject when their are faults against you as well on.

Everyone deserves a second chance of faith of doing something great, you get yours, others get theirs, why exclude people and single them out?

Alright. I do argee that she deserves a second chance. And no I am far from prefect. My problem wasnt with authority. I handle Authority pretty well. So I will leave this thread. I wish all of the team members the best of luck, If i can help at all I will. I am sorry for being imature in this thread. People can change i guess

P.S Im not mad. Also i got into GST then pulled my App.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Mykel
Well, congrats to all.

Nemesis:
The reason we find it funny is because Kish never really did anything Dev based on Babylon. And they said she turned corrupt (not sure how much truth is in this).
These are two things that Aftershock named as things that he will look at in deciding the members. And it just happens that she is very good friends with you. It may be perfectly innocent. And it probably is. But some people don't think so.

People may not think so...but typically everyone goes to her and other friends of mine to get to me and such, when I am on graal.

As Globals we all should have the common focus and goal. To help graal, and when people post negativity about it, and I am guilty of this with the GST posting but now all of us should come together and work as a unified team in making graal better than it is now and such.

People will think what they will and will hate things to hate things, but the majority should understand that a helping cause is trying focus on things, sure things are not done as fast as you like but they are being attempted...complications in this have arised, but we and myself are working hard to ensure the quality of the game remains so we can strive into the future

[zell12]

I still think that if you expected professionalism from us, than you could of done that same with setting up the applications. X_x

Some points could of been made by you like:

• The application should emphasize the jobseeker’s skills and experience and NOT his/her work history. The history is irrelevant.
• Descriptions should demonstrate the results he/she has achieved
• DON'T get too personal. It is possible to give a reader too much information, and some things an employer or such a person just doesn't want to know.

Just small things like that, and also about the supporters, it should be recomendation notes, not just names, like I said in my last post. But, it doesn't matter now, it's over with. -_-

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Mykel
Well, congrats to all.

Nemesis:
The reason we find it funny is because Kish never really did anything Dev based on Babylon. And they said she turned corrupt (not sure how much truth is in this).
These are two things that Aftershock named as things that he will look at in deciding the members. And it just happens that she is very good friends with you. It may be perfectly innocent. And it probably is. But some people don't think so.

Aftershock and Nem both said that Nemesis had nothing to do with the hiring of Kish, so it really doesnt matter whether she is friends with him or not...trust me, if Aftershock says he will look at certain areas, you can take him at his word....I am sure that Aftershock looked at all areas when he chose, and chose the best out of the applications.
These kinds of posts always happen when new staff is hired...why not just give it some time for them to do their jobs before you start judging people (this goes to the ones voicing negativity towards certain PWA members).
Good luck to those hired, and to the ones who didnt get hired this time, There will be other oppurtunities in the future I'm sure.

[draygin]

Originally posted by Nemesis
So if you want to blame someone, blame yourself for A) Not applying B) Not writing enough C) Not trying as hard as you should and putting a lack luster application

Some of us might have applied had you not stopped accepting applications early. You said you would accept no more applications after that friday. That's great we have until friday to make revisions go over check for spelling, grammar, etc..
So we go to work/school and then fine out you stop accepting applications almost 18 hours before the deadline you had posted. Then you extend it a few hours doing any one who is at work/school absolutly no good since our applications are sitting on our desktop at home which we still wont get to until we get home and past even the second deadline. Now I'm not complaining or bickering about it nor have I previously because it's not the end of the world. But it would be nice if in the future you actually stick with the specified times you set rather than closing it almost a day early. It probably filtereted out alot of good candidates who are picky about the work and prefer not to hand in half arsed applications early but rather take the full time needed to make sure everything is the best it can possibly be.

To those who made it congrats and hope you enjoy doing it. I prefer to judge people on the actions they take rather than what I hear from other people and I'm sure they wouldn't have been hired if they didnt meet the qualifications needed.