Graal2001 (Not Bomy Moon) Reconstruction project - Page 3

tlf288 · #81 02-16-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

And if you have a problem with Jeff, then tell Stefan. Dont make a new server in the lust for power and control.

You really have no idea, do you? BirdBird has to be one of the best if not THE best managers. You couldn't ask for a better manager.

Don't get me wrong. Jeff is a good manager. He isn't close to great but he is good. All the things that have happened to Graal Bomy Moon haven't been because of him. He is a great friend of myne of which I hope he can remain one.

Zurkiba · #82 02-16-2003, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by tlf288
You really have no idea, do you?

You have no idea what I said did you? I said to talk with Stefan about it, not go make a new server.

ONO KINGDOMS HAS A 70 PLAYER AVERAGE, IT'S GOING DOWNHILL SO I'M GOING TO MAKE AN EXACT COPY OF THE SERVER AND MAKE MYSELF MANAGER OF IT.

That's what you're doing.

tlf288 · #83 02-16-2003, 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

GOING TO MAKE AN EXACT COPY OF THE SERVER AND MAKE MYSELF MANAGER OF IT.

If you think it is going to be an exact copy then I really do puty you. It already doesn't even seem like GBM. With the way Angel, Loriel, Cheetos, and I are making these new NPCs you won't even remember that other server.

Birdbird_0 · #84 02-17-2003, 12:37 AM

Stop saying its an exsact replica, it's not!

How dare you make such an Ignorant statement.

I've said it over and over again, the levels we start out with are bare, they are well over two years old, The majority of the levels have nothing in them but the raw layout of the server itself.

Why the hell would I want to copy the current filth thats on Bomy moon and put it On Graal2001? No! We're redoing it from the ground up learning from the mistakes and problems that's happend over its lifetime.

That is the only way to learn something thats not put into stone before hand.

So stop making such outragious uninformed assumtions and insults twords 2k1, heck if I care what you say about me, just put the soda can down please.

Jeff · #85 02-17-2003, 01:28 AM

Stop saying its an exsact replica, it's not!
I managed to catch a couple glimpses of Bomboria and Godspeed's Sparring Arena. Looked pretty good, but more or less a mixture of touch-up work and retiling.

How dare you make such an Ignorant statement.
"How dare you"? Arrogant.

I've said it over and over again, the levels we start out with are bare, they are well over two years old, The majority of the levels have nothing in them but the raw layout of the server itself.
No contest.

Why the hell would I want to copy the current filth thats on Bomy moon and put it On Graal2001? No! We're redoing it from the ground up learning from the mistakes and problems that's happend over its lifetime.

Filth? That's an attempted insult, I believe. If Joe Newbie came on and started repeatedly calling a server like Cynical or Era a pile of filth, he'd be receiving moderative warnings.

That is the only way to learn something thats not put into stone before hand.

Or you could help me reform the current server instead of running off. Of course, then you wouldn't be the manager. Therein lies your motivation.

So stop making such outragious uninformed assumtions and insults twords 2k1, heck if I care what you say about me, just put the soda can down please.

Would you please cease your insults towards both Bomy Moon and me personally?

When I talked to Jeff about it he seemed more interested in Neverwinter Nights and then I later found out that he Lied about Tesng's opinyon on the matter.

If I told any lies they were unintentional...and as for NWN, surely I can play something other than Graal. And it's quite possible what you were thinking of is my suggestion that you use NWN to do the Graal 2001 3D thing.

I'm not going to work with someone who won't allow anything to happen.

I admit that sometimes I can be a bit slow, but note that things have been happening as of late.

If you have such doubts about the project, just sit back already and watch it come up next month rather then badgering it.

Good luck.

The only reson I see Jeff taking such great "motivation" and "affection" for the server right now, is because of the Graal2001 Project.

Or perhaps a couple of my friends convinced me to bring back kingdoms and then the players came back.

Why the heck else would he decide to do something now? He doesn't care about Graal Bomy Moon, he cares more about the control.

Please refrain from personal insults. They are unprofessional.

Thats what so insulting to me.
I'm sorry if no one else can see that.

You speak of insults and yet you spew many of them yourself. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Birdbird_0 · #86 02-17-2003, 02:44 AM

The previous post was Directed at Zurkiba Not you Jeff.

I'm not leaving the server bare.

And I don't care if you're taking my comments as insults or not.
I think you're an incompetent manager and it shows in your work and the way you conduct yourself on Graal Bomy Moon

I refuse to believe that just because "some friends" came up to you about Kingdoms on Bomy moon you suddenly decided to do what You've done. It's a Joke!

And yeah, I don't want to work with you managing, in my eyes you don't have the right qualifications to manage, yes you're a good scripter, but you lack management skills. If I ended up working on Bomy moon like you suggested I would of ended up quitting after a week after finding out that I'd be the only one doing the work.

As for management, who the hell cares right now, its about development, Being able to manage the development of the server, not staff squabblings, And that's the only thing I've seen you do management wise.

Do you really think I need to Justify myself with you Jeff? No.
Go ahead and keep thinking you're doing a Fantastic job.

You don't fool me.

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Please refrain from personal insults. They are unprofessional.

Oh give me a break Jeff, don't suddenly decide that this is a formal discussion. You can't expect yourself to "manage" the way you do with ought criticism.

And as for that, I rather save my breath for something useful rather then arguing on this thread. We will see what happens when Graal2001 Gets Released, rather then having to prove it's validation with no evidence.

You've changed Jeff, to your friends and acquaintances since You've become manager. Whether it be for the best or the worse. It happens to everyone in that position of power, and some can't handle it.

The inner truth closes it's eyes when its blinded by the audio

Jeff · #87 02-17-2003, 03:09 AM

The previous post was Directed at Zurkiba Not you Jeff.

Posts that are about me, and are on a public forum, are fair game for reply.

I'm not leaving the server bare.

Never said you were
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And I don't care if you're taking my comments as insults or not.
I think you're an incompetent manager and it shows in your work and the way you conduct yourself on Graal Bomy Moon
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Some examples, please?

I refuse to believe that just because "some friends" came up to you about Kingdoms on Bomy moon you suddenly decided to do what You've done. It's a Joke!

Not a joke at all. Ask them yourselves. Scarlett and Wryoko. They got me to bring back kingdoms. My local guild scheme had just largely failed and the decided to press the issue of kingdoms. The right people in the right place at the right tine.

And yeah, I don't want to work with you managing, in my eyes you don't have the right qualifications to manage, yes you're a good scripter, but you lack management skills. If I ended up working on Bomy moon like you suggested I would of ended up quitting after a week after finding out that I'd be the only one doing the work.

Give me an example of my evident incompetence, which has evidently led to a reset and the return of kingdoms, which have led to 50+ players, a feat unachieved in recent times.

As for management, who the hell cares right now, its about development, Being able to manage the development of the server, not staff squabblings, And that's the only thing I've seen you do management wise.

We had a couple dry months. Hell, even Classic and Unholy Nation have those sometimes.

Do you really think I need to Justify myself with you Jeff? No.
Go ahead and keep thinking you're doing a Fantastic job.

Don't give an argument unless you can back it up. First rule of debating any point.

You don't fool me.

If you say so

Oh give me a break Jeff, don't suddenly decide that this is a formal discussion. You can't expect yourself to "manage" the way you do with ought criticism.

There is a difference between criticsm and all-out mudslinging. It is, more or less, that the latter is in violation of the code of conduct. And frankly, for someone who's shooting for a job in management, professionalism is quite important.

And as for that, I rather save my breath for something useful rather then arguing on this thread. We will see what happens when Graal2001 Gets Released, rather then having to prove it's validation with no evidence.

I seriously look forward to seeing what you can come up with. From what I've heard and been allowed to see, you are aiming towards duplication of services.

You've changed Jeff, to your friends and acquaintances since You've become manager. Whether it be for the best or the worse. It happens to everyone in that position of power, and some can't handle it.

Burdens have a tendency of doing that. An enjoyable burden, such as managing newmain or shoveling the sidewalk, is a burden nonetheless, just so much as a wart on your tongue.

The inner truth closes it's eyes when its blinded by the audio

That makes no sense. Care to interpret?

(I'd lock this, except it would appear corrupt to do so)

T3CK · #88 02-17-2003, 03:20 AM

I'm all for 2001, "Bomy Moon" isn't exactly my idea of an ideal server, but when Birdbird was 2001 god, 2001 was a server for the gods. Hell, I'll even help you out if you want Birdbird, you ever want an extra guy or anything IM me on AIM

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