Graal2001, 3D.

[Birdbird_0]

Mainly an Idea, Stefan Said it would be fun, Unix has not responded yet.
The thread is mainly getting public support and ideas for Graal2001 3D (hope to be) Project

Imagine, comming out of the adminhouse, and staring to the west to see Dustari Castle high on top of its shoreline Clifs, or traversing the steep terrain of Mt Antoria. Glaring out at the farmlands in Sanetarian or diving under the ocean for tresure deep below. Rather then seeing this though the eyes of an egle, seeing all this though your charachters eyes.

Graphics being simple, nothing realistic, staying to graals oriinal graphics for textures, you would emerse yourself in the world of 2001, Watching the sun rise and set over the horizen. Slashing someone with your sword in a sparring arena.

With a remaping of the world with places that actualy have insides, no nameless towns or emty additions. Econmy balanced and hats not being the center of the universe. Playing Capture the flag and dashing though brush and trees to get back to your base.

Loriel has a written skill point system, so not every single person is the same, as well as bomy.
(need to get him to post it)

To bring back the joy that 2001 once had, but in a more refined and Grand way.

Ehem.
Thats my dream. *runs*

[tlf288]

heh, Although it is a good idea I seriously doubt it would be ever caried out

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it happen but I just don't think it will

[Birdbird_0]

Originally posted by tlf288
heh, Although it is a good idea I seriously it would be ever caried out

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it happen but I just don't think it will

Why not?

[tlf288]

Look at Graal2001 now... There isn't exactly alot of development going. What makes you think Jeff and team would start over on a new project when they haven't made alot of improvements on their current project.

[Birdbird_0]

I never said jeff or the current team would be involved. Nor did I say they would not be.

It takes a whole new set of developmental skills to work in 3D, along with being able to think in 3D. Not saying that they cant, I personaly don't know any of them.

And there has been no new management after I left thats kept 2001's population above 80. Last year it had 120 people on normaly when loriel and I managed.

Not to Sound mean or anything, but there's been no show and tell that the current staff can realy brag about on 2k1. But thats just my biast opinyon because 2k1 is not what it used to be last year.

[tlf288]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
But thats just my biast opinyon because 2k1 is not what it used to be last year.

Does the realese of Graal2002 ring a bell?

[Dude6252000]

So? We make both gold servers 3D :O And, Birdo, I'm learning how to program C++ AND make 3D animations/characters

[Jeff]

I would certainly be willing to be involved, though I would much prefer realistic graphics....I have this craving to see newmain in realistic 3D. It can reflect Graal style (i.e. have the appearance of pics1-based tiling though with higher detail) and still be realistic.

[Googi]

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THERE IS NO SIZE TAG OF SIZENESS OR BOLD TAG OF BOLDNESS TO EXPRESS THIS ENOUGH.

NO!

[Boozy_Bravo]

Really, I think it'd be awesome if the project was really able to take off, but I just don't see it happening. Of course, I may be underestimating your talent/dedication to it. But then, there's so much more that needs to be done. You couldn't exactly change the current world into 3D and leave it at that, because in its current state, it's nothing too brilliant.

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Graphics being simple, nothing realistic, staying to graals oriinal graphics for textures...

This is what really interests me. I love the idea of playing in a true, 3D, cartoon-like Graal with vivid colors and familiar objects. What I dislike most about the new Graal 3D engine is that it tries to mimic reality, with correctly proportioned bodies and realistic environments -- I just don't care for it too much.

[Kramer]

Heh...it could be like zelda64

[Boozy_Bravo]

Originally posted by Kramer
Heh...it could be like zelda64

::begins to drool::

That'd be amazing.

[Birdbird_0]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bravo
Really, I think it'd be awesome if the project was really able to take off, but I just don't see it happening. Of course, I may be underestimating your talent/dedication to it. But then, there's so much more that needs to be done. You couldn't exactly change the current world into 3D and leave it at that, because in its current state, it's nothing too brilliant.This is what really interests me. I love the idea of playing in a true, 3D, cartoon-like Graal with vivid colors and familiar objects. What I dislike most about the new Graal 3D engine is that it tries to mimic reality, with correctly proportioned bodies and realistic environments -- I just don't care for it too much.

The players are just models, you can make brand new ones, same goes with any engine, and you can always adjust how everything looks.

[Kaimetsu]

It'd be a heck of a lot of work, but also a lot of fun to play.

[Birdbird_0]

It would be encredably fun.

edit:
I think a good name for the project could be
Graal: Cubed

Or Graal^3
Or something *runs*

[DarkHero]

If you get both worlds 3D then Graal 2001 would be still empty am i right? or would Graal 2001 and Graal 2002 be big again...? I love the idea...

[Loriel]

Loriel-made Attributes system, under construction.
Attributes define the success of the player's action in game. They are split into Stats and Skills. Stats are the main categories. Related to each Stat, there are various skills. The limit for each Stat is 20, while the maximum for all of them together is 45. Skills have different limits according to their importance or complexity in game.

NPC Code:

---

   Strength       Agility        Intelligence

      HUMAN SKILLS

    Mining         Ironworking    Baking

    Swordfighting  Woodworking    Fishing

    Taming         Archery

      SHARED SKILLS

                   Riding         Magic

      BOMY SKILLS

    Kicking        Spin-Digging   Taming

    Fire Breath

---

This is just a rough idea, and will be advanced and improved and enhanced and inl33ted etc.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Loriel
This is just a rough idea, and will be advanced and improved and enhanced and inl33ted etc.

Weren't we told by Stefan not to have a stat system like on 2K2?

[Loriel]

We were not told to go 3d either.

[magicbud3344]

sounds like fun :O!
btw bird, don't you ever get tired of running XD?

[tlf288]

Originally posted by Loriel
We were not told to go 3d either.

heh, So your trying to say two wrongs is a right?

[Birdbird_0]

haha.

The stat system is not based on EXP.

Rather doing tasks quests, per say, getting your first 5 points will be like, getting your first hour online, or killing someone in your first spar.

So its a way as loriel put it, "To not make all players the same"
So each person has their upsides and downsides, not everyone can do everything the person next to them can.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
So its a way as loriel put it, "To not make all players the same"
So each person has their upsides and downsides, not everyone can do everything the person next to them can.

That's too much like 2K2.

2K2 will always outclass 2K1 in fields that 2K2 has. 2K1 needs to be based on what 2K2 doesn't have.

[Neoreno]

The thing is, 2k2 has a lot of things.

[Birdbird_0]

Originally posted by Googi


That's too much like 2K2.

2K2 will always outclass 2K1 in fields that 2K2 has. 2K1 needs to be based on what 2K2 doesn't have.

I dispise leveling up on 2k2, thats why we are not going to take that mmorpg cast for it.

We are having the same things, but hats wont be like they were before.
The server will become more social, there will be more games to play and kingdom wars will be game like rather then so rpish. There will be 4 kingdoms still but based on what 2k1 had.

But the kingdoms wont be as disorganized or closed community as they were before, still have not done any kingdom revision or anything like that. But with kingdom war games the leader will command the troops and have a small RTS game but it will be done over a lengthy period.

2k1Cubed will be based on games, and fps experances. Coummity and slight role playing, exploration, discovery and adventure.

[Googi]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
fps

If this happens, can I have the bomy script to take somewhere?

[Kamaeru]

YOU WILL MAKE THIS OR DIEE!!!!! lol i mean it........you guys are going to make this....you must, except make it 3rd person......and economy based

my thoughts = )

[Kamaeru]

*cries* i remember i thought of something liek this once before....jsut remaking the entire server in 3D, but iw as liek "they would never do that, it's a dumb idea"

it's a good idea, do it, it will attract alot fo old players to graal, along with new ones, and it would also be SUPER FUN

[Googi]

Originally posted by Kamaeru
it's a good idea, do it, it will attract alot fo old players to graal, along with new ones, and it would also be SUPER FUN

I told you already, if the Graal players wanted to play something 3D, they wouldn't be playing Graal

[Kamaeru]

Originally posted by Googi


I told you already, if the Graal players wanted to play something 3D, they wouldn't be playing Graal

Wait.....we can't choose both?

[Googi]

Originally posted by Kamaeru
Wait.....we can't choose both?

I doubt that they'll be a 2D and a 3D Graal2001 server.

[AlexH]

I don't like the sounds of a 3D Graal server through first person view.
I'm not the biggest fan of first person games.

[Kamaeru]

yeah, it will suck first person, make it traditionally third person, it's graal2001, it wont be graal2001 if you cant even see yourself

[Birdbird_0]

games that require shooting can be in first person, who said there cant be thrid person action going on -_-

[--Chris--]

I agree 101% with googi. NO!
Also errm...the reason you guys had more players is cause 2k2 wasn't what it is today not to mention it's eye candy to ****s in a comparison with other servers.

[funnylinkwantsbomys]

itd be way more complicated (i used paint and ud use 3d modeling tools) but i drew some of the front of dustaris castle

[Kramer]

If this is approved, I'm taking 3D Graphic lessons

Graal³

[Jeff]

I don't want graphics that look like a several-year-old console game. This is, first off, a PC-based game and should use the full capabilities of thet platform, and second off, disproportionate bodies and blocky objects that should be round only look good in 2D.

Any port in a storm, but unrealistic 3D graphics have always been one of my pet peeves

[Kinatt]

You have the right to an opinion. I like cartoony 3d gfx! Kingdom hearts had good ones!

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Kinatt
You have the right to an opinion. I like cartoony 3d gfx! Kingdom hearts had good ones!

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They look sort of like The Phantom Menace.

Not that TPM wasn't a good game for its time, but the character models were a bit blocky. I'd like 3d newmain to look at least as good as Neverwinter Nights. Now THAT is a 3D game, though it's best if you can coax your computer to run it with Truform.