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Old 01-20-2003, 08:40 PM
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MY suggestions

First and foremost...

In the subscription options..
Make an option for people to buy classic access only without having to buy 3 months of Graal Gold. Not everyone likes Graal gold and shouldn't be forced to buy it when they don't want it.
Add an option for those who don't want graal gold or the VIP extras, but want forum access and classic access.

In the Graal client...
Increase the stability. Graal is the only program on my whole computer that causes a random crash or lockup.

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Old 01-20-2003, 10:17 PM
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If you have a trial account and you play Graal there is an option every time you are on the server list that you click on to update to just classic so they arn't forced into buying gold.
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Old 01-21-2003, 12:25 AM
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You're mistaken sir...it still makes you buy graal gold
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Old 01-21-2003, 12:58 AM
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You're mistaken sir...it still makes you buy graal gold
You don't pay for 3 months of gold. It is given to you for free in the hope that you will like it and buy a gold account after your free 3 months. It costs you absolutely nothing.
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Old 01-21-2003, 01:01 AM
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Then those who don't want this "bonus" should be able to purchase graal at a reduced rate
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Old 01-21-2003, 01:06 AM
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Can't you buy classic access only via phone for $15?
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Old 01-21-2003, 01:13 AM
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Then those who don't want this "bonus" should be able to purchase graal at a reduced rate
What do you meen a "reduced rate"? You would get it for the same price if they took off the gold bonus. So your only gaining. Your loosing absolutely nothing. Geez...
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Old 01-21-2003, 04:39 AM
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I just think 20 bucks is too expensive for classic because it's rarely updated and poorly administered...heh maybe 10 or 15, but not 20
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Old 01-21-2003, 05:13 AM
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I just think 20 bucks is too expensive for classic because it's rarely updated and poorly administered...heh maybe 10 or 15, but not 20
So your willing to not play graal for a measily 5 more dollars? That is not very much more money at all, but for them it is alot considering each player that is 5 more dollars. Personally, I would pay 30 dollars for a classic account to help out GraalOnline.
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Old 01-21-2003, 05:32 AM
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I just think 20 bucks is too expensive for classic because it's rarely updated and poorly administered...heh maybe 10 or 15, but not 20
Doesn't the Classic upgrade also cover all playerworlds?
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Old 01-21-2003, 05:46 AM
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Doesn't the Classic upgrade also cover all playerworlds?
Ofcourse, That one reason they chaned the name of Graal Classic. Too much confusion with the subscription name.
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Old 01-22-2003, 12:50 AM
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It's one reason, the other being that Graal used to have this janky Graal: The Adventure logo back before PWs, then it vanished when it became Graal Online and Classic became a world. And a third reason being, as so many have pointed out, once X was removed/Y added (X being anything and Y usually being day/night or heras) it ceased to be Classic in the majority opinion.

So GTA is The Modern Incarnation of Graal Classic, the Graal that Was. And G2K (formerly G1998) is the Graal that Was, for reference.
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Old 01-22-2003, 01:27 AM
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Re: MY suggestions

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First and foremost...

In the subscription options..
Make an option for people to buy classic access only without having to buy 3 months of Graal Gold. Not everyone likes Graal gold and shouldn't be forced to buy it when they don't want it.
Add an option for those who don't want graal gold or the VIP extras, but want forum access and classic access.

In the Graal client...
Increase the stability. Graal is the only program on my whole computer that causes a random crash or lockup.

Sir Pickles
Graal Gold is free for 3 months, if you dont want the free then dont play it. Lets say I work at a restaraunt, we have a special buy 1 burger get another free. Do you think they would give you the burger cheaper if you only want one?


also the graal client needs alot of work not only on stability
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Old 01-22-2003, 01:37 AM
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Can't you buy classic access only via phone for $15?
stefan recently removed that, it caused more problems than upgrades
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Old 01-22-2003, 05:31 AM
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Fine I'll just deal with it. My other suggestion should be taken more seriously however...It's a real problem when graal causes an 850MHZ Duron with 400MB of PC133 ram, a Geforce2MX400 vid card, and an ATA100 hard drive to lock up, especially with it being the only program running at the time. Seems to happen most often after 6 hours of the PC being on. Sometimes sooner...Anyway, the stability needs an improvement/tweak
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Old 01-22-2003, 05:49 AM
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Anyway, the stability needs an improvement/tweak
Yes, very nice. "Make Graal more stable". You realise that Stefan is constantly looking for ways to do this? It's not something you have to suggest.
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Old 01-23-2003, 09:44 AM
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If you use the phone. You will be billed from your phone company at a large rate.

I used phone to get my account and I ended up paying 40$ for the call and 15$ for the classic.
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Old 01-23-2003, 01:20 PM
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Fine I'll just deal with it. My other suggestion should be taken more seriously however...It's a real problem when graal causes an 850MHZ Duron with 400MB of PC133 ram, a Geforce2MX400 vid card, and an ATA100 hard drive to lock up, especially with it being the only program running at the time. Seems to happen most often after 6 hours of the PC being on. Sometimes sooner...Anyway, the stability needs an improvement/tweak
i'm using a 750MHz Duron, 256MB of PC133 SDRAM, a Geforce2MX400, an ATA 66 & an ATA133 HD, and it doesn't freeze for me :x.. it used to when I tried to log onto 2k2, to fix it I logged onto a different server first, then pressed F8 & logged onto 2k2... but I don't have that problem anymore.
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Old 01-24-2003, 02:34 PM
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Well, I'm using Windows 2000. I don't know if that changes anything
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Old 01-24-2003, 05:02 PM
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Well, I'm using Windows 2000. I don't know if that changes anything
So am I. :P
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Old 01-24-2003, 09:16 PM
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The music used to freeze me along time ago like a year the .midi files when I turned them on it would make mine LOCK up. But it doesn't any more for some reason maybe Stefan changed the coding or something I have no idea..
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Re: MY suggestions

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Originally posted by melissa1988
First and foremost...

In the subscription options..
Make an option for people to buy classic access only without having to buy 3 months of Graal Gold. Not everyone likes Graal gold and shouldn't be forced to buy it when they don't want it.
Add an option for those who don't want graal gold or the VIP extras, but want forum access and classic access.

In the Graal client...
Increase the stability. Graal is the only program on my whole computer that causes a random crash or lockup.

Sir Pickles
Well think of it this way. You only have to pay about 20 bucks to play on classic servers for as long as graal exists or at least untill you get banned or something.
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Old 01-25-2003, 12:03 AM
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But we used to only have to pay 2.99

That's my main problem with it. That's like almost 1000% increase in price
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:15 AM
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Wow. I so don't remember that, and that seems like exactly the sort of thing I'd remember. =_=
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Old 01-25-2003, 05:42 AM
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Well, I know this account and my stepbrother's accounts were both purchased for 2.99 each (gold). About 3-7 days later, i check the page and now the VIP thing is there and everything has increased in price roughly 1000%. although there are some new features, I still don't see the true justification for such a rate increase (other than server costs)
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Old 01-25-2003, 05:50 AM
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Midis lock up my dads computer, but not mine, Maybe I have an outdated driver, or I need a new soundcard.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:06 AM
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Well, I know this account and my stepbrother's accounts were both purchased for 2.99 each (gold).
The price for a gold account has never been $2.99....
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Old 01-25-2003, 10:20 AM
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Yes it was...I have the credit card receipts
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