Alkaren?

[Graal518]

Originally posted by IceHawk
reading this thread makes me WANT TO HIT CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH A CLUE HAMMER

Observing this thread, I don't think it's even worth the wasted energy, Icehawk.

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Crazy indeed.

Yeah.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
He must've been doing it in secret, then.

You're assumptions aren't leading me to any conclusions despite the fact that you think "alkaren sukz he waz powdare hungry" now that he's gone from the forums.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Yeah, you're right. I have no way to know that he was extremely angry. He was probably just typing random keys on the keyboard when replying to the announcement. He didn't mean to type "extreme anger..."

He was angry because unixmad never gave him a chance to be an administrator. Then, poof, konidias appears on the scene and takes over his job. Wouldn't you be angered too?

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
True, but we do have confessions.

Confessions? You honestly think someone is going to come up to you and say "Oh, Mr. Kaimetsu, I've been a naughty boy, I've been using cookies to log onto the forum!"? No, they're going to keep their trap shut.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
The EULA didn't magically appear recently, y'know. Account transferral/sharing has always been illegal. Next you might argue that this had not been brought to his attention, to which I would reply:

1) It was his job to know the EULA.
2) I told him on multiple occasions.

Unless I missed some magical line in the EULA, it ONLY prevents account sharing by users who have been banned. I can tell you honestly that ANYONE who was banned and started using someone else's account was marked down for ban evasion.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Oh? Give me an example of a thing on which everybody agreed, and how it benefitted the populace for him to ask.

We more specifically talked on AIM about issues, but we also discussed on the moderator board.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I could easily argue that your insistence on his integrity is just a baseless assumption. The fact is that I know him. I've talked with him many times, worked under him, observed his interactions with the public. I know him. That kinda removes the 'baseless' thing.

You must be talking to a different Alkaren. He's never doctored a log before, why would he do it now, hm? Attitudes towards these things don't snap into an overnight change.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
But they were written in stone, by Konidias. He makes the rules, remember?

The kitty/domo kun signature was not a violation of any rule that was put in place. You can go back and look at the thread yourself for my own commentary and others commentary on the matter.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
I was trying to get them banned because they deserved to be banned. Because it would make the forums a better place. Because, if they weren't banned then, they would be eventually anyway. Since everybody was being stupid about it, I found a different avenue by which to remove them. All this was private, moderator activity. Taking it to the public forums had no purpose other than to discredit me.

Banning someone for saying "odem" a lot will make the forums a better place? That's some rediculous logic. It's obvious that you let your own personal feelings of contempt for Spi get in the way of your moderator duties. Aren't you and konidias always the ones saying we shouldn't have friends? It goes just the same as for enemies.

He had good reason to try to discredit you, as for the reasons explained above. Trying to remove a member who, while annoying, did not break any rules by trying to sneak around the EULA was something that talking to you would not remedy, and it's obvious Toran had to go to the public for help to not ban Spi. I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but neither was trying to twist the EULA to get rid of someone you hate.

[Googi]

Bah, GM should be abolished, there isn't anyone on Graal who can possibly do the job well.

[konidias]

Originally posted by freddyfox

Uhh, isn't that exactly the same thing that konidias did?

Or at the very least, it's in the same mindest. Torankusu didn't like Alkaren and argued about it, so Alkaren removed Torankusu. Torankusu didn't like the way the whole sig deal was being handled and argued about it, so Konidias removed Torankusu.

It's funny you mention that. No I didn't do the same thing, I only removed his private forum access because he was doing what you're doing now. Wasting everyone's time arguing over something that will have no victor.

It's also funny because when I removed Torankusu, Alkaren messaged me and told me I was wrong and on a power trip or something and that I shouldn't have removed Toran. Ironic, eh?

Anyway, this topic has gotten quite out of hand, the arguement is heated, and it's between forum staff, so I think it's about time this is closed so people can cool off. The topic question was answered so let's just let this thread die. Thank you.

By the way, moderators/forum staff, do not post here just because you can post in closed topics. This topic is closed and that means you stop posting.