Samurai Kingdom Clan System (read now!!)

[feivel]

There is already a Samurai clan called Iskuguri Clan,
I am happy to announce the leaders are very knowledgeable etc,
what I am suggesting is that Samurai be a clan system.
There will be a few clans each with get its own tag or whatever but through guild messages you would only talk to people in your clan but there could be a special way to talk to the whole Samurai kingdom or something. That or if you wanted to talk to people in others clans it would have to be done realistically, or you could send a messenger etc...
out of the clans a Shogun and Emperor would be chosen...
or considering we are voting for leader the leader chosen would be it and would choose a clan to be from...
the clans could fight eachother if they wanted but aside from the kingdom's politics there would be in clan politics and infrastructure etc...
to see how the Iskuguri clan is run go to

http://www.iskuguriclan.cjb.net/

[Hiyoshi]

I highly doubt that system would work. It's the same idea as having sub-kingdoms. That's pointless. There would be civil wars within the kingdom, and you couldn't really control it.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

That's like the house system for Dustari, and it kind of went down the drain.

[KwuazlKenshin]

it would be cool if it did work... but yes there would be wars within kingdoms... but that actually happens.... and it might be that the number of Samurai would get to low because the more the clans the less the people altogether... because to many clans would form and the amount of people would get to far spread out..... and no offense Hiyoshi.... but why whatever Dashio says you hate it without even thinking..... or thats what it seems...

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by KwuazlKenshin
it would be cool if it did work... but yes there would be wars within kingdoms... but that actually happens.... and it might be that the number of Samurai would get to low because the more the clans the less the people altogether... because to many clans would form and the amount of people would get to far spread out..... and no offense Hiyoshi.... but why whatever Dashio says you hate it without even thinking..... or thats what it seems...

No, it's not that, it's just he hasn't had any ideas I haven't already thought of, and thought through.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
That's like the house system for Dustari, and it kind of went down the drain.

This is why:













As you can see in my high graphical chart, it should be reverse.

[feivel]

Well uhhhhhh so what,
the whole point is civil war,
that way we wont get in stupid wars with other kigndoms and we will fight with ourselves duuuh

[ZanderX]

Originally posted by feivel
Well uhhhhhh so what,
the whole point is civil war,
that way we wont get in stupid wars with other kigndoms and we will fight with ourselves duuuh

And then, while Faction A is fighting with Faction B, Factions C and D will ally and completely wipe out Factions A and B, and then Factions C and D will fight between themselves and Kingdom B will come in and completely wipe everyone out.


YES! BRILLIANT! I LOVE IT, A PLAN FOR THE APOCALYPSE.

[feivel]

No because while factions are fighting each other if a kingdom invades it gives them the reason to re-unite,
and I never said it was the smartest thng to do,
I siad we should do it because it is the most fun and the most realistic.

[KwuazlKenshin]

well that kinda stuff really happens.... more realistic but yeah... i dont like the thought of Samurai devouring each other.....

[ssj2sal]

Feivel, the Clan system is a great idea!!!! Just keep with it..persist..for an example..visit my Clan's site...it is in my signature

[Androk2k1]

feivel you stealer! You stole my idea of creating Go Samurai... a clan withing Samurai Kingdom! BLAh! STEALER

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by Androk2k1
feivel you stealer! You stole my idea of creating Go Samurai... a clan withing Samurai Kingdom! BLAh! STEALER

bah...that is ridiculous...that is not exactly an idea that required any stealing at all...I had the idea of the Iskuguri becoming a clan within the Samurai anyway..feivel thought that the samurai should have a Clan system...based on Feudal Japanese society, thinking of using a clan system is not something that requires anyone to steal the idea..it is simply tooooo obvious..so stop complaining

[feivel]

Androk Actually we both stole the idea from fuedal Japan
AAAAnyway when g2k2 first came out in alpha i suggested it and nananana boo boo i am better :P

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by feivel
Androk Actually we both stole the idea from fuedal Japan

This is quite true in effect isn't it....I mean all that a clan system is, is something that did happen in feudal japan....so once again...stop complaining

[Hiyoshi]

No. End. There will not be clans. Reasons:

1. The names will be so rediculously long it wouldn't be funny.
In Example: Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai) in (Iskuguri Clan)
That is a rediculously long name.
2. People say, it won't have to be like that, well how will the Samurai keep in touch? toguilds don't work through different tags, and Stefan/Unix have a lot more to worry about than figuring out a way for the clans in Samurai to keep "close" in touch.
3. Feivel isn't going to work out a clan system, and since I never liked the idea from the beginning, I won't either. It's too much work, as if the Samurai kingdom itself isn't. Clans just make things more complicated than they already are. I
4. Iskuguri can go on, but it'll never be accepted as a faction of Samurai unless they merge with us. I highly doubt Stefan/Unix will make them an official kingdom, since Samurai is already the Japanese themed kingdom.
5. I'm the official Emperor of Samurai, and what I say goes. If you don't like it, present the clans in any orderly way, that wouldn't screw any of the above things. Don't say tags could be: Iskuguri Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai), because that too is too long. I don't want your ideas on the clans either. I want a completely organized system, not bits and pieces, because bits and pieces just make me not want it anymore.

Unless someone comes up with a good answer to number 5, or something lays it out for me in my head (which it won't), then Samurai stays as one Kingdom, united as a whole, with no clans at all. This is straight from the computer of the official Emperor. End.

[marrico]

Originally posted by Hiyoshi
No. End. There will not be clans. Reasons:

1. The names will be so rediculously long it wouldn't be funny.
In Example: Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai) in (Iskuguri Clan)
That is a rediculously long name.
2. People say, it won't have to be like that, well how will the Samurai keep in touch? toguilds don't work through different tags, and Stefan/Unix have a lot more to worry about than figuring out a way for the clans in Samurai to keep "close" in touch.
3. Feivel isn't going to work out a clan system, and since I never liked the idea from the beginning, I won't either. It's too much work, as if the Samurai kingdom itself isn't. Clans just make things more complicated than they already are. I
4. Iskuguri can go on, but it'll never be accepted as a faction of Samurai unless they merge with us. I highly doubt Stefan/Unix will make them an official kingdom, since Samurai is already the Japanese themed kingdom.
5. I'm the official Emperor of Samurai, and what I say goes. If you don't like it, present the clans in any orderly way, that wouldn't screw any of the above things. Don't say tags could be: Iskuguri Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai), because that too is too long. I don't want your ideas on the clans either. I want a completely organized system, not bits and pieces, because bits and pieces just make me not want it anymore.

Unless someone comes up with a good answer to number 5, or something lays it out for me in my head (which it won't), then Samurai stays as one Kingdom, united as a whole, with no clans at all. This is straight from the computer of the official Emperor. End.

Good, I didn't like the clan system

-Damix

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Hiyoshi
No. End. There will not be clans. Reasons:

1. The names will be so rediculously long it wouldn't be funny.
In Example: Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai) in (Iskuguri Clan)
That is a rediculously long name.
2. People say, it won't have to be like that, well how will the Samurai keep in touch? toguilds don't work through different tags, and Stefan/Unix have a lot more to worry about than figuring out a way for the clans in Samurai to keep "close" in touch.
3. Feivel isn't going to work out a clan system, and since I never liked the idea from the beginning, I won't either. It's too much work, as if the Samurai kingdom itself isn't. Clans just make things more complicated than they already are. I
4. Iskuguri can go on, but it'll never be accepted as a faction of Samurai unless they merge with us. I highly doubt Stefan/Unix will make them an official kingdom, since Samurai is already the Japanese themed kingdom.
5. I'm the official Emperor of Samurai, and what I say goes. If you don't like it, present the clans in any orderly way, that wouldn't screw any of the above things. Don't say tags could be: Iskuguri Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai), because that too is too long. I don't want your ideas on the clans either. I want a completely organized system, not bits and pieces, because bits and pieces just make me not want it anymore.

Unless someone comes up with a good answer to number 5, or something lays it out for me in my head (which it won't), then Samurai stays as one Kingdom, united as a whole, with no clans at all. This is straight from the computer of the official Emperor. End.

That's cold

But here is just an idea for you and for the people who want clans.

On the Samurai island you can have three Provinces. Which means you'll have three Shoguns. In order to identify people and their clans you can read their last name

Lets say Clan 1 Is the Capital Province...
and all last names between A-H are in that province.
Last names between I-P are in the second province
And the rest are in the thrid province.

So if we have Yi Yoshi (Last name is the first name in Japanise Culture and I suggest the Samurai use it ) then he'll be in the third province.



OR you could have a Roman type Clan system

Hiyoshi Shimoda would be Hiyoshi Kaji Shimoda of (Samurai)

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

That's cold

But here is just an idea for you and for the people who want clans.

On the Samurai island you can have three Provinces. Which means you'll have three Shoguns. In order to identify people and their clans you can read their last name

Lets say Clan 1 Is the Capital Province...
and all last names between A-H are in that province.
Last names between I-P are in the second province
And the rest are in the thrid province.

So if we have Yi Yoshi (Last name is the first name in Japanise Culture and I suggest the Samurai use it ) then he'll be in the third province.



OR you could have a Roman type Clan system

Hiyoshi Shimoda would be Hiyoshi Kaji Shimoda of (Samurai)

Good idea...or perhaps, there could be certain family names unique to a certain clan. For example, my char's name is Todosi Mirumoto, and the family name Todosi would be from the clan/province the Iskuguri, from which you could identify my char is from the Iskuguri clan. so my nick would be Todosi Mirumoto of (Samurai), which wouldn't make the names any longer at all.

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by Hiyoshi
No. End. There will not be clans. Reasons:

1. The names will be so rediculously long it wouldn't be funny.
In Example: Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai) in (Iskuguri Clan)
That is a rediculously long name.
2. People say, it won't have to be like that, well how will the Samurai keep in touch? toguilds don't work through different tags, and Stefan/Unix have a lot more to worry about than figuring out a way for the clans in Samurai to keep "close" in touch.
3. Feivel isn't going to work out a clan system, and since I never liked the idea from the beginning, I won't either. It's too much work, as if the Samurai kingdom itself isn't. Clans just make things more complicated than they already are. I
4. Iskuguri can go on, but it'll never be accepted as a faction of Samurai unless they merge with us. I highly doubt Stefan/Unix will make them an official kingdom, since Samurai is already the Japanese themed kingdom.
5. I'm the official Emperor of Samurai, and what I say goes. If you don't like it, present the clans in any orderly way, that wouldn't screw any of the above things. Don't say tags could be: Iskuguri Kaji Hiyoshi Shimoda of (Samurai), because that too is too long. I don't want your ideas on the clans either. I want a completely organized system, not bits and pieces, because bits and pieces just make me not want it anymore.

Unless someone comes up with a good answer to number 5, or something lays it out for me in my head (which it won't), then Samurai stays as one Kingdom, united as a whole, with no clans at all. This is straight from the computer of the official Emperor. End.

1. I would be vey willing to figure out a clan system...haven't we already discussed this Hiyoshi?
2. Hiyoshi, the iskuguri has agreed to merge

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by ssj2sal


Good idea...or perhaps, there could be certain family names unique to a certain clan. For example, my char's name is Todosi Mirumoto, and the family name Todosi would be from the clan/province the Iskuguri, from which you could identify my char is from the Iskuguri clan. so my nick would be Todosi Mirumoto of (Samurai), which wouldn't make the names any longer at all.

We tryed that in Dustari and it dont work

That'd bring in a power struggle and confusion. But I dont know... Samurai might have a few more-loyal people who'd be for this plan.

[cloudstrifevii]

Originally posted by feivel
Well uhhhhhh so what,
the whole point is civil war,
that way we wont get in stupid wars with other kigndoms and we will fight with ourselves duuuh

omg pirate clans I will walk over to the other clans houses and burn them instant victory

NOTE:Pirates dont have clans there are different bands of pirate but this is one kingdom usually Pirates will kill eatchother if 2 bands meet k?and the dustari thing makes sense I mean no one wants to be a civillian.

[feivel]

An easy way to indentify is by the color clothes people wear lolololol that or lets seee...
my name is Shogun Denryuu Dashio
people in my clan there family names would start with D
seeee.......

ok clan system:


Bobi Jan Kino is official wafflemaker the end!

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

We tryed that in Dustari and it dont work

That'd bring in a power struggle and confusion. But I dont know... Samurai might have a few more-loyal people who'd be for this plan.

I'd certainly hope there would be loyal people...in fact, i'm sure there are lots and lotas and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and well I could keep on going but that'd be irritating

[feivel]

Ok new idea..
I thought of this on the way to school.
First of a clan system makes it easier on hte kingdom's central government because it doesnt require the king micromanaging every little thing. Its like the United States, you dont see every state trying to overthrow the other state, it only makes a better government. And for the names, I had a better idea then anyone.
A symbol. Just as every clan had a banner we can have a symbol in the name. kind of like..

ll§ll

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by feivel
Ok new idea..
I thought of this on the way to school.
First of a clan system makes it easier on hte kingdom's central government because it doesnt require the king micromanaging every little thing. Its like the United States, you dont see every state trying to overthrow the other state, it only makes a better government. And for the names, I had a better idea then anyone.
A symbol. Just as every clan had a banner we can have a symbol in the name. kind of like..

ll§ll

I'm still not satisfied. You're going to have to come up with something much better than that...

[feivel]

That is better!
Its the best it can be without being complex...

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by feivel
That is better!
Its the best it can be without being complex...

I cant even type that... so how do you think people will learn how to use it?

[feivel]

its not that hard..
all i did was make to lowercase L's "ll" then i press alt+789 "§" then I made two more lowercase L's...
thats how i made "ll§ll"

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by feivel
its not that hard..
all i did was make to lowercase L's "ll" then i press alt+789 "§" then I made two more lowercase L's...
thats how i made "ll§ll"

Hiyoshi: Ok you're tag is Bushi Gameo Testo ll§ll of (Samurai)
Bushi Gameo Testo llSll of : Meh tag aint working
Hiyoshi: for the § put Alt+789
Bushi Gameo Testo llAlt+789ll of: Still not working
Hiyoshi: No type in Alt + 789
Bushi: I did

etc...
You know some of the people of Graal... they sometimes dont take in information like you intend it to be taken in... so that'll cause stress and stuff with Hiyoshi and he'll go psycho and blow the kingdom up.

[feivel]

If someone isnt smart enough or atleast patient enough to learn how do put a symbol in their name then I dont think they have a place in Samurai unless they want to be thhe village idiot or the whiner... hey every kingdom has to have one! :P

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

Hiyoshi: Ok you're tag is Bushi Gameo Testo ll§ll of (Samurai)
Bushi Gameo Testo llSll of : Meh tag aint working
Hiyoshi: for the § put Alt+789
Bushi Gameo Testo llAlt+789ll of: Still not working
Hiyoshi: No type in Alt + 789
Bushi: I did

etc...
You know some of the people of Graal... they sometimes dont take in information like you intend it to be taken in... so that'll cause stress and stuff with Hiyoshi and he'll go psycho and blow the kingdom up.

I'm not that psycho

[KwuazlKenshin]

I have worked really hard for Samurai...... or well at least i tried my hardest and fought my hardest and well was kinda guarding the old gate on 2k1 for like ever = P but thats not the point... well it sorta is...anyway........ i was wanting to be the prince.. but then i heard Brad got it.... so now i heard there are three Shoguns = ) so now thats the rank i am trying at i suppose..... i just dont want to start at the begginging.... even though on 2k1 i was ranked up well... pretty quickly....i just wanted to start with a good rank.. = )

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by KwuazlKenshin
I have worked really hard for Samurai...... or well at least i tried my hardest and fought my hardest and well was kinda guarding the old gate on 2k1 for like ever = P but thats not the point... well it sorta is...anyway........ i was wanting to be the prince.. but then i heard Brad got it.... so now i heard there are three Shoguns = ) so now thats the rank i am trying at i suppose..... i just dont want to start at the begginging.... even though on 2k1 i was ranked up well... pretty quickly....i just wanted to start with a good rank.. = )

Why was the gate even there? ... We Zormites always just attacked through the sewers.

And I think Brad is joining Dustari O_o.

[game_king]

Originally posted by KwuazlKenshin
I have worked really hard for Samurai...... or well at least i tried my hardest and fought my hardest and well was kinda guarding the old gate on 2k1 for like ever = P but thats not the point... well it sorta is...anyway........ i was wanting to be the prince.. but then i heard Brad got it.... so now i heard there are three Shoguns = ) so now thats the rank i am trying at i suppose..... i just dont want to start at the begginging.... even though on 2k1 i was ranked up well... pretty quickly....i just wanted to start with a good rank.. = )

yea i wouldnt mind being one of the three shoguns considering i was with samurai from the begining

Back in the times when it was invites only, but that didnt really last!

[KwuazlKenshin]

Brad? Dustari? Brad is supposedly the Samurai Prince......are you serious?

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by KwuazlKenshin
Brad? Dustari? Brad is supposedly the Samurai Prince......are you serious?

I never appointed you as Prince, you just assumed you were. Feivel can handle that now. I quit the horrid job.

[KwuazlKenshin]

Hiyoshi="I quit this Horrid Job" ?? horrid job?what is a horrid job?

[feivel]

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THREE SHOGUNS????

[KwuazlKenshin]

ok i heard there can be more then one shogun... = / and nw i think everyone is confused and everythings in Choas.... i just want to know what Hiyoshi meant by he is quitting this horrid job X_x