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Old 08-26-2002, 05:48 PM
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Graphics miracle program

Does anybody know of a program that meets these specifications?

MS-Paint with a "transparent" color that you can use to just paint pixels transparent like any other color, no fancy crap.

And .png support in the graal-friendly form... not so much png support cause there's a program to do that for you in the graal folder... any suggestions?

If you wanna be a show off, make one :O
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Old 08-26-2002, 06:25 PM
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Adobe Photoshop Elements.
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Old 08-26-2002, 06:55 PM
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I'd say Photoshop.
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Old 08-26-2002, 06:58 PM
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I'd say Photoshop.
yeah, photoshop. but go on msn i have no aim!
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:28 AM
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Photoshop is liek that exscept with alot more. It would eb cool to just see MS Paint wit those features.
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:32 AM
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paint shop pro. no reason to use photoshop
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:41 AM
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I've had no problems with my combo of Photo Editing Software, Paint, and Animagic.
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:44 AM
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I've had no problems with my combo of Photo Editing Software, Paint, and Animagic.
try microangelo (impactsoft.com) and paint shop pro
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:51 AM
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:56 AM
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i kind of meant that message to anyone who read it...not you
but, if you're that happy, then great!
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:59 AM
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I'm fine with working on paint with a white background, then switching it to some odd color, then moving onto Photoshop (Since it's all I got) and turning it into a transparency using GIF, then moving onto Microsof Photoeditor to turn it into a PNG....

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Old 08-28-2002, 07:43 AM
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i kind of meant that message to anyone who read it...not you
but, if you're that happy, then great!
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Old 08-28-2002, 09:03 AM
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Could somebody give me a step by step on how to do it on photoshop?

I make the graphic in paint
funky color for what i want transparent
save to a bmp
open in photoshop
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use program that comes with graal to turn the gif into a .png
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Old 08-28-2002, 10:53 AM
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I do what he said but i use animagic to convert it into gif format because sometimes I animate my graphics.
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Old 08-28-2002, 11:45 AM
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I just use MSPaint, some program that shadrock sent me to turn .bmps to gifs and add transparencies, and the gif2mng program included with graal.
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Old 08-29-2002, 10:40 PM
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I do what he said but i use animagic to convert it into gif format because sometimes I animate my graphics.
Yep, I basically use MSPaint for all my graphics, then I copy the pics to animagic, where you can animate, or set transparency.. Then I just save as gif..

You can use the program that comes with Graal to make gif's into pngs, so that is basically the entire package.
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Old 08-30-2002, 01:24 PM
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Program XD

Hey Houdini! I've had this program for a while, it lets you set a transparency color really easily, and it also turns a .bmp into a .gif, and vice-versa! after that, just use the gif2mng program that came with Graal (I know people have said that already ) Kay, well, see you on Graal :o
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Old 08-30-2002, 01:50 PM
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I use PSP, PS is too complicated for what I use graphic editors for.
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Old 08-30-2002, 02:43 PM
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I use PSP, PS is too complicated for what I use graphic editors for.
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Exactly the same...
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Old 08-31-2002, 01:31 AM
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I like the GIF Construction Set Professional and PNG/MNG Construction blah blah from Alchemy Mindworks. Both are free shareware downloads. The primary GFX editor is actually MSPAINT, so it's easy to use, but the program converts it to GIFs or PNG/MNGs. I'd post a link but someone might decide to ban me for reasons I have no control over...

Go to Yahoo and search for "mindworkshop" (all 1 word). You'll find the site easily enough; at least one of their pages should be like the top link.
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Old 08-31-2002, 01:33 AM
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the XP Paint can save in bmp, gif, png, jpg and a couple of others.
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Old 08-31-2002, 01:40 AM
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How do you use that program that comes with graal QUESTIONMARK Ive never got it to work PERIOD
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Old 08-31-2002, 02:26 AM
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I like the GIF Construction Set Professional and PNG/MNG Construction blah blah from Alchemy Mindworks. Both are free shareware downloads. The primary GFX editor is actually MSPAINT, so it's easy to use, but the program converts it to GIFs or PNG/MNGs. I'd post a link but someone might decide to ban me for reasons I have no control over...

Go to Yahoo and search for "mindworkshop" (all 1 word). You'll find the site easily enough; at least one of their pages should be like the top link.
lol. gif construction set is no good i used to use that back when i first started playing graal
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How do you use that program that comes with graal QUESTIONMARK Ive never got it to work PERIOD
Drag the gif file onto gif2mng.exe.
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Old 08-31-2002, 07:10 PM
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Photoshop. No reason to use Paint Shop Pro.

They're both usually used for a different purpose than converting transparencies. It was stupid to do, stating that there was "no reason to use photoshop".
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Old 08-31-2002, 07:52 PM
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Photoshop. No reason to use Paint Shop Pro.

They're both usually used for a different purpose than converting transparencies. It was stupid to do, stating that there was "no reason to use photoshop".
no, because photoshop is used for and made for mainly professional graphics and webdesign. paint shop pro was made for whatever you choose to dish out.

i hardly think it was "stupid" to say it, and so i said it. if people choose to ignore it; fine. whatever. i'm just giving a little tip here. no big deal
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Old 08-31-2002, 09:39 PM
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lol. gif construction set is no good i used to use that back when i first started playing graal
Interesting. What's wrong with it? I made my sig with it...
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Old 08-31-2002, 09:49 PM
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Interesting. What's wrong with it? I made my sig with it...
after a while it just wasn't doing the trick i like animation shop by jasc, but one thing that annoys me is trying to add transparencies to animations.
they never work
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Old 08-31-2002, 10:19 PM
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after a while it just wasn't doing the trick i like animation shop by jasc, but one thing that annoys me is trying to add transparencies to animations.
they never work
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Old 08-31-2002, 10:21 PM
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Old 09-04-2002, 03:31 AM
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Thanks for all your opinions, I just got back from a small 5 day thing to my dad's house (divorced parents ) so sorry if it's a bit late. I'll try your program kaizer, all i really wanted was a step by step on making transparencies... I use mspaint and gif2mng.exe i just had a hard time making the things transparent =\ Oh well
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Old 09-04-2002, 03:44 AM
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after a while it just wasn't doing the trick i like animation shop by jasc, but one thing that annoys me is trying to add transparencies to animations.
they never work
Animagic is super easy to make transparencies.. you just put your animation in it, then go to "Transparent color..." then it gives you an eyedropper tool, and you just click the color in your picture that you want transparent. It will make that color transparent in every frame.
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Old 09-04-2002, 03:56 AM
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Animagic is super easy to make transparencies.. you just put your animation in it, then go to "Transparent color..." then it gives you an eyedropper tool, and you just click the color in your picture that you want transparent. It will make that color transparent in every frame.
yeah jasc does that too, but the animation shop doesn't seem to actually apply the transparency.
oh well, i don't make animations that much to worry, so i never really cared. neh =/
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