The Body Petition! - Page 3

HVOstroHS · #81 07-05-2002, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2
I would have voted for the new bodies.. until today. The NPCServer is down.. and most of the stuff is back as it was, except for not having any weapons.. just swords. What I noticed that was different though.. is that everyone is having fun again. Some people are back to their old ways, PKing people, some down to 0 ap already. I'm for the old bodies now.. I miss how it was.

This screenshot was taken TODAY:

I'm with you. People were having fun. Nice elephant.

Sparkplug · #82 07-05-2002, 08:05 AM

I Love it how it is now.. Everyone is having fun.. Only problem is we cant change our colors

0AP rox

Acererak · #83 07-05-2002, 08:14 AM

~Kramer

P-a-W-n · #84 07-05-2002, 09:20 AM

~'ShadowKat012

freddyfox · #85 07-05-2002, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by Mman

As fast and as agile as the old bodies . Seriously now, the new bodies make you walk about as slow as a bomy.

It's a perception of height. If you've ever played a game like Everquest, you probably thought your troll was the slowest thing on the planet, and your gnome was on a sugar high, but it is only due to the perception of height.

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM. Let's repeat that. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM.

CheeToS2 · #86 07-05-2002, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

It's a perception of height. If you've ever played a game like Everquest, you probably thought your troll was the slowest thing on the planet, and your gnome was on a sugar high, but it is only due to the perception of height.

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM. Let's repeat that. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM.

Well.. I tested the speed of the new bodies compared to the old ones walking horizontal from one side of the level to the other.. and both testers had lvl3 shield.. old bodies were much faster.

Sparkplug · #87 07-05-2002, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

It's a perception of height. If you've ever played a game like Everquest, you probably thought your troll was the slowest thing on the planet, and your gnome was on a sugar high, but it is only due to the perception of height.

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM. Let's repeat that. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM.

something is wrong... Look at the poll.. something must be wrong with the new ones

Torankusu · #88 07-05-2002, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM. Let's repeat that. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM.

yeah, there might not be anything wrong with them, but they're not widely liked by everybody that plays.

I think the poll and petition would've said that itself, but it looks like I've had to step in.

Infamy · #89 07-06-2002, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Movement is scripted and can be changed at any time

Bring old bodies and old HP System. Keep new stuff for Graal2002 serber.

Sparkplug · #90 07-06-2002, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by Infamy

Bring old bodies and old HP System. Keep new stuff for Graal2002 serber.

YES

Aestus · #91 07-06-2002, 03:25 AM

If you're going to keep the new bodies, be sure to crash the NPC server at least twice a week the way you did last night. That was honestly the best time I've ever had on 2k1.

Questa · #92 07-06-2002, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by Aestus
If you're going to keep the new bodies, be sure to crash the NPC server at least twice a week the way you did last night. That was honestly the best time I've ever had on 2k1.

i just reupgraded and it was all ***. last time i played, there was old bodies and there was no retarded bodies. i tried using the old body, but it looks all messed up.

freddyfox · #93 07-06-2002, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2

Well.. I tested the speed of the new bodies compared to the old ones walking horizontal from one side of the level to the other.. and both testers had lvl3 shield.. old bodies were much faster.

How did you accomplish this?

Questa · #94 07-06-2002, 03:40 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

How did you accomplish this?

another server? offline?

freddyfox · #95 07-06-2002, 03:45 AM

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Originally posted by Questa

another server? offline?

Another server? There are important factors such as lag and processor speed which can give the illusion of faster walking with the "old" bodies.

Offline? How? Two-player mode was removed, and basing your assumptions off of "Well, I think this one went faster then that one." is a poor way to attempt to find something that doesn't exist. And stopwatches are also unreliable, as you can start pressing the movement key and start key on the stopwatch and different intervals that can make several errors in the final observation.

It's height perception, like I said.

Questa · #96 07-06-2002, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

Another server? There are important factors such as lag and processor speed which can give the illusion of faster walking with the "old" bodies.

Offline? How? Two-player mode was removed, and basing your assumptions off of "Well, I think this one went faster then that one." is a poor way to attempt to find something that doesn't exist. And stopwatches are also unreliable, as you can start pressing the movement key and start key on the stopwatch and different intervals that can make several errors in the final observation.

It's height perception, like I said.

ok true, i just thought of those off the top of my head. some reason my framerate is higher with the new bodies since I upgraded, its probably the constant sounds going on that raise my framerate.

CheeToS2 · #97 07-06-2002, 04:10 AM

I changed a bunch of strings to mimic the old bodies, went to my npctest, and me and DragonX (i think it was him) tested the speeds

DragonX2 · #98 07-06-2002, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2
I changed a bunch of strings to mimic the old bodies, went to my npctest, and me and DragonX (i think it was him) tested the speeds

Yea, it was me

freddyfox · #99 07-06-2002, 04:26 AM

Again, framerate and lag. I'm not doubting the fact that you went through thorough pre-cautions to do this, but I simply believe it's height perception and lag.

Torankusu · #**100** 07-06-2002, 04:34 AM

Out of 89 votes, 53 is the majority. Let's change them already. ;|

MaximusP2P · #**101** 07-06-2002, 05:12 AM

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Originally posted by Brad
Vote yes to sign it!

Also state your nickname in a normal post.

This is to get the old bodies back.

ok i dont care about the bodies and i dont really like the new hp system, but that is because im use to the other one so i dont care about the bodies or hp system.

AlexH · #**102** 07-06-2002, 05:18 AM

The new bodies don't bother me tht much.
Yes I prefer the older ones but the new ones are okay too.

I don't like the new HP at all though.
However it is much more scripting friendly, allowing much more weapons and variations on weapon effects so it's good in that way.

So it has both its good and bad.

Torankusu · #**103** 07-06-2002, 05:19 AM

**** weapons.
swords for death. :O.

CheeToS2 · #**104** 07-06-2002, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by freddyfox
Again, framerate and lag. I'm not doubting the fact that you went through thorough pre-cautions to do this, but I simply believe it's height perception and lag.

I already told you we did it horizontally.. height perception is no matter.

Both of us saw that my body was moving way ahead.. by 3-4 inches, neither of us were lagging, my NPCtest only has 2 npcs in it.. no lighteffects, etc.

zrpgp2p · #**105** 07-06-2002, 12:56 PM

I prefer the old bodies, mostly because you can change color and also because it keeps the Graal feel with it. As for the system i prefer the new one its just better.

Zolrieg · #**106** 07-06-2002, 01:30 PM

The old bodies were so much more customizable.

koopa1128 · #**107** 07-11-2002, 05:47 AM

Cross

Googi · #**108** 07-11-2002, 05:49 AM

Heh, Krakken said he would fix the bomy bug, but he has yet to do so :-\

ZanderX · #**109** 07-11-2002, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Googi
Heh, Krakken said he would fix the bomy bug, but he has yet to do so :-\

It's been fixed 3 or 4 times now by 2 or 3 different people.

Hiker · #**110** 07-11-2002, 06:06 AM

yep...
Shaman Iku Hookhand (Pirate Crew)

Googi · #**111** 07-11-2002, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

It's been fixed 3 or 4 times now by 2 or 3 different people.

You mean they attempted to fix it.

ZanderX · #**112** 07-11-2002, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by Googi

You mean they attempted to fix it.

No, I mean, the script was fixed and updated.

Which means that the real walling bug is somewhere else and not in the script. :|

Googi · #**113** 07-11-2002, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

No, I mean, the script was fixed and updated.

Which means that the real walling bug is somewhere else and not in the script. :|

Umm..why wouldn't adding in a !strequals,#m to the script for getting hurt work?

Brad · #**114** 07-11-2002, 09:13 AM

Â¤â€*Holy Swordsmanâ€*Â¤ , Ransk, Tobias Brogan, whoever the heck I am.

I VOTE FOR OLD BODIES AND OLD HP

Prez56 · #**115** 07-11-2002, 09:19 AM

~Zero Diamond~

the only thing i dont like about the old bodys is that there to small..maybe if there was new bodys but you can change the colors again... and for the HP system i like the new one..its..well..better...and they need to get rid of the damn /sleep crap...that **** is so ***!

archaonTCN · #**116** 07-11-2002, 04:12 PM

I want to play 2001 the way it was, now that it's gone I realize how much I miss it.

DragonX2 · #**117** 07-11-2002, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by archaonTCN
I want to play 2001 the way it was, now that it's gone I realize how much I miss it.

"You don't realize how much something means to you until it's gone".

archaonTCN · #**118** 07-11-2002, 05:23 PM

They should put up a test server with the old bodies to see wich one would be played the most.

I can probably guess the outcome.

GraalBR · #**119** 07-11-2002, 05:54 PM

~ BAD RELIGION ~

AlkarenHyralt · #**120** 07-11-2002, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

It's a perception of height. If you've ever played a game like Everquest, you probably thought your troll was the slowest thing on the planet, and your gnome was on a sugar high, but it is only due to the perception of height.

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM. Let's repeat that. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THE NEW BODIES AND HP SYSTEM.

Those gnomes are fast though ><

View Poll Results: Old bodies?
Yes for the old bodies and old HP system!	60	59.41%
Yes for the old bodies and new HP system!	29	28.71%
Yes for the new bodies + new HP system	12	11.88%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll