Us, the players, cheated YET AGAIN?!

toad1413 · #1 05-17-2002, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted on Graal2001.com.
13 MAY 2002

We will release Alpha testing of Graal2002 including:

New music coming from a compositor
The new landscape engine
Completely new characters for man and woman
Weapons, Armors, Helmets
Role-playing system, including skills, complete fighting systems, armor and weapons
Lot of new jobs ( Tailoring, Black smithy, Tinkering, Mining, Fishing, Farming, Architect )
Complex dungeon system with monsters, traps, and treasures.
Kingdom system with castle invasions, town ruling, and a shopkeeper system for player to rent shops and do jobs protected by castle and guards

It is now the 17th of May.

Thanks a lot, I see it's been delayed yet again. This is begining to look like NewWorld... *sigh*

Xerphier Dintch · #2 05-17-2002, 06:05 PM

See my thread -> "Is the pending release of graal2002 still may 13th" it has all the info.

UrashimaX · #3 05-17-2002, 07:22 PM

Uh - Is NewWorld going to come out? I really don't think so :/

Amagius · #4 05-17-2002, 07:42 PM

Well I've seen what they've done with it, so I know they're not quitting. Making any Progress right now? Probably not.

warp2ukew · #5 05-17-2002, 07:47 PM

the newworld server is down so they cant do anything.

toad1413 · #6 05-17-2002, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by UrashimaX
Uh - Is NewWorld going to come out? I really don't think so :/

Hence the reference to NewWorld. It's like G2k2 is never going to come out. -_-

Lao_Su2 · #7 05-17-2002, 08:20 PM

Heh notice that there are some other threads out there that say that it might be released Sunday?

freddyfox · #8 05-17-2002, 08:22 PM

You're 3 days late. Stefan said that they were fixing bugs and it will be out "sometime this week."

draygin · #9 05-17-2002, 09:06 PM

If it is sunday technically thats next week.

Dillard · #10 05-17-2002, 09:13 PM

i heard someone saying that stefan came on and said that it would be released Saturday, whether or not that is true.....who knows

Nastazio · #11 05-17-2002, 09:25 PM

I hope it comes out Sunday, for GraalOnline's sake that is...

kenyonandelliot · #12 05-17-2002, 09:57 PM

I rather see Graal2001 get more updates then the others. When I saw NW it SUCKED. When I played on Graal2k2 I played for a couple hours then it SUCKED. 1st time I player Graal2001 it rocked! But now not many staff coming on.

DarkDragon452 · #13 05-17-2002, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by kenyonandelliot
I rather see Graal2001 get more updates then the others. When I saw NW it SUCKED. When I played on Graal2k2 I played for a couple hours then it SUCKED. 1st time I player Graal2001 it rocked! But now not many staff coming on.

Come to classic. Classic rules

Xbob42 · #14 05-17-2002, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2
Heh notice that there are some other threads out there that say that it might be released Sunday?

lol. In U.S.A. Sunday is the first day of the week, but in France Monday is the first day of the week.

~Prince Dark

Kaimetsu · #15 05-17-2002, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413

It is now the 17th of May.

Thanks a lot, I see it's been delayed yet again. This is begining to look like NewWorld... *sigh*

I think "cheated" is a wrong and very unfair word. They didn't do this to get anything from you, it was just delayed because it wasn't finished.

DarkDragon452 · #16 05-18-2002, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

I think "cheated" is a wrong and very unfair word. They didn't do this to get anything from you, it was just delayed because it wasn't finished.

I dunno. We've been promised the alpha release of 2k2 for what, 6 months now? And we have the preview/ghost mode. Nothing more. Now I know it takes a loong time to finish things sometimes. But giving us a date and then delaying it every single time makes the paying players a bit disgruntled.

Griffyn · #17 05-18-2002, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by DarkDragon452

I dunno. We've been promised the alpha release of 2k2 for what, 6 months now? And we have the preview/ghost mode. Nothing more. Now I know it takes a loong time to finish things sometimes. But giving us a date and then delaying it every single time makes the paying players a bit disgruntled.

hmm...what quiz thingie is that sig from?

DarkDragon452 · #18 05-18-2002, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Griffyn

hmm...what quiz thingie is that sig from?

http://www.mutedfaith.com. Click on humor, then quizzes.

Griffyn · #19 05-18-2002, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by DarkDragon452

http://www.mutedfaith.com. Click on humor, then quizzes.

THANKS MATE

DarkDragon452 · #20 05-18-2002, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by Griffyn

THANKS MATE

Anytime.

Artificial_Sweetener · #21 05-18-2002, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Xbob42

lol. In U.S.A. Sunday is the first day of the week, but in France Monday is the first day of the week.

~Prince Dark

I've always remebered Monday Being the First Day of the Week over here in the Good Ol' US of A.. But what do I know...

Artificial_Sweetener · #22 05-18-2002, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by DarkDragon452

http://www.mutedfaith.com. Click on humor, then quizzes.

Umm.. Are you sure that's it? I got a 404 Error X-x

Artificial_Sweetener · #23 05-18-2002, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

I think "cheated" is a wrong and very unfair word. They didn't do this to get anything from you, it was just delayed because it wasn't finished.

If it wasn't finished and they KNEW it wasn't finished.. Then why Give us an EXACT date for it to be released?? Oh and yes they did release it to get Something from you and Everyone else, If they were to make a fun and Exciting Server, More People would Upgrade Accounts Thus funding Stefan's and Unixmad's Efforts...

Kaimetsu · #24 05-18-2002, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by DarkDragon452

I dunno. We've been promised the alpha release of 2k2 for what, 6 months now? And we have the preview/ghost mode. Nothing more. Now I know it takes a loong time to finish things sometimes. But giving us a date and then delaying it every single time makes the paying players a bit disgruntled.

I agree that it's disheartening, but they didn't cheat us.

Googi · #25 05-18-2002, 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

I agree that it's disheartening, but they didn't cheat us.

Sir_Gareth · #26 05-18-2002, 03:11 AM

You wernt cheated?
Thats stupidfor saying that
Stefan wants a high quality bugless server released,
Because Graal2002 will be the main server
people will start to play on,
and if there are bugs there can be
things that cant be reversed and have a bad
effect on the players staff or all of graal.
What would you want?
A server that has nothing fun and lots of bugs
or a server witj lots of stuff and no bugs?

DragonX2 · #27 05-18-2002, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by Artificial_Sweetener

Umm.. Are you sure that's it? I got a 404 Error X-x

He put a period after it so just goto
http://www.mutedfaith.com

Artificial_Sweetener · #28 05-18-2002, 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by DragonX2

He put a period after it so just goto
http://www.mutedfaith.com

Thanks

Artificial_Sweetener · #29 05-18-2002, 03:53 AM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
You wernt cheated?
Thats stupidfor saying that
Stefan wants a high quality bugless server released,
Because Graal2002 will be the main server
people will start to play on,
and if there are bugs there can be
things that cant be reversed and have a bad
effect on the players staff or all of graal.
What would you want?
A server that has nothing fun and lots of bugs
or a server witj lots of stuff and no bugs?

You might want to Revise and Edit just a bit.. :o
But anyway, I remember someone Said awhile ago " I'd Rather have a Server That's Buggy and No fun than nothing at all.. " I think most will agree with Him, I know I do

Kaimetsu · #30 05-18-2002, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
You wernt cheated?
Thats stupidfor saying that
Stefan wants a high quality bugless server released,
Because Graal2002 will be the main server
people will start to play on,
and if there are bugs there can be
things that cant be reversed and have a bad
effect on the players staff or all of graal.
What would you want?
A server that has nothing fun and lots of bugs
or a server witj lots of stuff and no bugs?

So... aren't you agreeing with me?

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #31 05-18-2002, 03:59 AM

I think it's disheartening, especially when I look back at this, from the logs of Stefan (notice the date and last sentence)

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Opposite (31/03/02 2:30:25 PM):

Mass message:
Sorry for the problems with the npcserver, everything should working ok now.

About Graal2002: We are working hard on it and have added a lot lately (most stuff is not
displayed correctly when you have not the latest exe and are a ghost). But it is not finished yet so
please patient. We will release it soon, it is only a matter of days.

---

How can we expect a release this week, when we get messages like those?

brock128 · #32 05-18-2002, 04:46 AM

He's right, yano.

Mman · #33 05-18-2002, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

I think "cheated" is a wrong and very unfair word. They didn't do this to get anything from you, it was just delayed because it wasn't finished.

Wasn't finished?!! Just like every other time we have been delayed because it "wasn't finished"?!!! That is BULLSHIT!!
I'm pretty damn sure that "cheated" is a good word for this case. The players have waited and waited and haven't had anything except more crap from the incompetent, lazy staff that can't GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND FINISH THE DAMN THING ALREADY.
He shouldn't worry about perfecting it, the players are only waiting for an ALPHA release.

Alpha= not 100% done.

I'd rather have bugs than wait any longer, they've taken long enough. If it's not done enough for an alpha release they should just scrap the damn thing.

Mman · #34 05-18-2002, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I think it's disheartening, especially when I look back at this, from the logs of Stefan (notice the date and last sentence)

---
Opposite (31/03/02 2:30:25 PM):

Mass message:
Sorry for the problems with the npcserver, everything should working ok now.

About Graal2002: We are working hard on it and have added a lot lately (most stuff is not
displayed correctly when you have not the latest exe and are a ghost). But it is not finished yet so
please patient. We will release it soon, it is only a matter of days.

---

How can we expect a release this week, when we get messages like those?

We can't expect a release, we never should have. Apparently stefan is as lazy as Homer Simpson and says it will be released soon, knowing he is full of crap. But as far as we know they probably aren't getting a damn thing done, I wouldn't be surprised if 2k2 meets the same fate as NW.

brock128 · #35 05-18-2002, 05:03 AM

Mman - Calm down. We are all frusterated, but you're going overboard. People said he seems pretty confident about this weekend. I doubt it will, but why don't we wait and see?

Kaimetsu · #36 05-18-2002, 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by Mman

Wasn't finished?!! Just like every other time we have been delayed because it "wasn't finished"?!!! That is BULLSHIT!!
I'm pretty damn sure that "cheated" is a good word for this case. The players have waited and waited and haven't had anything except more crap from the incompetent, lazy staff that can't GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND FINISH THE DAMN THING ALREADY.
He shouldn't worry about perfecting it, the players are only waiting for an ALPHA release.

Alpha= not 100% done.

I'd rather have bugs than wait any longer, they've taken long enough. If it's not done enough for an alpha release they should just scrap the damn thing.

Thank you for your opinion! I'll be sure to treat it the same way as all your others ^_^

HVOstroHS · #37 05-18-2002, 05:07 AM

Guys you should really stop complaining. First of all, it's only a game. Just bits of information that are being sent into your computer and processed by your mind as "fun". Secondly, would you guys rather coming on Graal 2002 and having it be extremely buggy. You would complain, *****, and moan like there was no tomorrow. If I were you guys, I would be happy that they were putting in the extra effort just to make it right for you, the people.

Mman · #38 05-18-2002, 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by brock128
Mman - Calm down. We are all frusterated, but you're going overboard. People said he seems pretty confident about this weekend. I doubt it will, but why don't we wait and see?

When I get frustrated I get pissed, and then posts like the ones I posted above appear.

Mman · #39 05-18-2002, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Thank you for your opinion! I'll be sure to treat it the same way as all your others ^_^

If I were saying this to you and you only it would be a forum PM, not to mention a waste of my typing.

Kaimetsu · #40 05-18-2002, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by Mman

When I get frustrated I get pissed, and then posts like the ones I posted above appear.

Maybe you should stop taking it all so seriously