Level Makers and RC.

someone99 · #1 04-24-2002, 05:45 PM

Excuse me, but WHO IN BLOODY HELL came up with the brilliant idea to give level makers RC? I heard Madmartigan has an RC too. WHAT WOULD A LEVEL MAKER NEED WITH RC? Geez, thats like giving Police or FAQ RC. Its not needed at all.

Too many power hungry people these days

Spanko · #2 04-24-2002, 05:53 PM

RC != Insane powers.

People with RC can have insane powers, but they don't specifically have to have them. Plus I think it's standard fare that all people with staff accounts automattically have RC.

Admins · #3 04-24-2002, 06:22 PM

They get it for uploading files, but should not stay on RC all the time

Birdbird_0 · #4 04-24-2002, 06:31 PM

the level makers can read the ftp files, and only upload in the upload folders as not to cause confusion and having stupid things that are not debuged uploaded.

None of the level makers have more than warpto, update, disconect, comments, view attributes, and admin message.

They can't do any damage besides adding "you smell bad" to your comments.

And most of the time they are just on to answer questions or be on rc whial they are making levels, none of them have insane power. I make sure that no one on rc will abuse what ever they have, and the rights they do have, have validation for having them. My guideline for giving rights is, is it neccacary or not.

Why, has one of the lats done something bad to you that I need to know of?

someone99 · #5 04-24-2002, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0

None of the level makers have more than warpto, update, disconect, comments, view attributes, and admin message.

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Thats still ALOT for one level maker. All they really need is update level.

Neonight · #6 04-24-2002, 07:05 PM

All of Providence's level makers have RC.
There's a temp folder that allows them to upload levels they made into it, then somebody higher (Admin, Owner, etc.) can upload them into levels. It takes a bit longer, but it's worth it.

Sage's RC had that and Carl was going to TRY to delete the levels, but Sage had r levels/*.* and rw temp/*.*

Neonight · #7 04-24-2002, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
None of the level makers have more than warpto, update, disconect, comments, view attributes, and admin message.

Why do they need disconnect? To disconnect (npcserver)? Not too smart of a choice if a level maker goes beserk...

Warpto is kinda iffy on Graal2001.

zell12 · #8 04-24-2002, 07:13 PM

and why would they need admin message? to send bunches of pointless crap to annoy us all? Adminmessages are for IMPORTIANT things, not "PM me if you want help"...
Besdies, you said it yourself, they only got RC to upload things and to save confusion.

draygin · #9 04-24-2002, 08:59 PM

RC is needed for when we're trying to communicate with graphic makers scriptesr sfx etc... it lags reallyb ad having two graals open when you're trying to talk to them. We dont have disconnect I think Birdbird ment reset and thats only becuase lots of people ask to be reset. As for Admin message if we did that we'd get fired. Contrary to popular belief most people arn't stupid enough to send admin messages and get fired. Also as Stefan said with out RC we wouldnt have FTP and then we couldnt add or update levels. Or in my case since my entire computer was erased I've been getting small scripts I need like hide img so I can show only part of an image and some lighting effects that I lost but are in my old levels etc... I could see the warpto being iffy but like I said if we abuse it we lose it.

Googi · #10 04-24-2002, 10:59 PM

Level Makers shouldn't have disconnect. Some dumb level maker who wants to screw up graal before he quits could disconnect the NPCServer.

AlexH · #11 04-24-2002, 11:07 PM

Not many people use the admin message.
You would think someone used it all the time.
It's used very rarely and when it is it is for Important things.

someone99 · #12 04-24-2002, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
RC is needed for when we're trying to communicate with graphic makers scriptesr sfx etc... it lags reallyb ad having two graals open when you're trying to talk to them. We dont have disconnect I think Birdbird ment reset and thats only becuase lots of people ask to be reset. As for Admin message if we did that we'd get fired. Contrary to popular belief most people arn't stupid enough to send admin messages and get fired. Also as Stefan said with out RC we wouldnt have FTP and then we couldnt add or update levels. Or in my case since my entire computer was erased I've been getting small scripts I need like hide img so I can show only part of an image and some lighting effects that I lost but are in my old levels etc... I could see the warpto being iffy but like I said if we abuse it we lose it.

1) MAKE LESS TYPOS AND LEARN HOW TO USE COMMAS PLEASE.

2) RC IS NOT NEEDED FOR TALKING TO PEOPLE. Oh boo hoo hoo, two graals is too much for you? Cry me a river and get over it.

3)
You have the ability to reset? Thats even worse. I dont care if you get asked to be reset, you arent an admin, and there is a job for that. Your job DOES NOT need reset.

NeoNPL · #13 04-24-2002, 11:28 PM

Yes, five them reset, one of them is getting fired, he gets angry, he resets peoples accounts.

All Level makers need is Update level, warpto , upload .

draygin · #14 04-24-2002, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by someone99

1) MAKE LESS TYPOS AND LEARN HOW TO USE COMMAS PLEASE.

2) RC IS NOT NEEDED FOR TALKING TO PEOPLE. Oh boo hoo hoo, two graals is too much for you? Cry me a river and get over it.

3)
You have the ability to reset? Thats even worse. I dont care if you get asked to be reset, you arent an admin, and there is a job for that. Your job DOES NOT need reset.

the insult of some ones spelling is the work of a ***** who cant think of anything else to ***** about.

RC is needed to communicate better between staff members if you had half a brain youd know this.

If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them.

Yes Reset isnt needed for LAT's I never asked for it. But one might also ask why must a person wait for a reset when they need one and there are people capable of doing it? Has there been reports of people resetting others out of spite on g2k1? Have you seen any ART on g2k1 in the past couple of weeks?

Is your intelligence high enough for you to make a post with out resulting to insults because you're not competent enough to make a valid point?

draygin · #15 04-24-2002, 11:36 PM

Thats why you take RC away before then informed them they're fired

Milkdude99 · #16 04-25-2002, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Spanko
RC != Insane powers.

People with RC can have insane powers, but they don't specifically have to have them. Plus I think it's standard fare that all people with staff accounts automattically have RC.

Not on Npulse it's not, Admin and Gps have RC on Npulse and only because on "Free Servers " you need RC to jail.The Lat Chief and Asst Chief do to because they upload levels , reg Lats have no use for RC and I will not give it to them as well as FAQ, ET,Nats, GATs, have no use for it. I only give RC to those who need it to do their job only, it is not a toy or a "chat program" tha's what ICQ and Aim are for if they want to chat.Except an Graal Admin who made me give the ET Chief and FAQ Chief RC against my wishes .....grrrrrr. Now the same Admin says I can do it back the other way I had it when they did not have RC... yea made sense to me too....

Milkdude99 · #17 04-25-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by NeoNPL
Yes, five them reset, one of them is getting fired, he gets angry, he resets peoples accounts.

All Level makers need is Update level, warpto , upload .

Anyone who lets any ole lat upload to the server is an idiot, only the Lat Chief and the Admin should be able to upload to the server, you take too many chances with "hidden scripts" and someone gaining access to their Staff account, the less people can the less chance of screwups and illegal access to the server..

Milkdude99 · #18 04-25-2002, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by draygin

the insult of some ones spelling is the work of a ***** who cant think of anything else to ***** about.

RC is needed to communicate better between staff members if you had half a brain youd know this.

If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them.

Yes Reset isnt needed for LAT's I never asked for it. But one might also ask why must a person wait for a reset when they need one and there are people capable of doing it? Has there been reports of people resetting others out of spite on g2k1? Have you seen any ART on g2k1 in the past couple of weeks?

Is your intelligence high enough for you to make a post with out resulting to insults because you're not competent enough to make a valid point?

That is what PM's and email is for... RC is not for "chatting" We only allow "trained GPs " to reset ; jail etc.... not even GP cadets are allowed to do much more than update levels and check accounts till they are trained to do the job right and prove that they can...

Milkdude99 · #19 04-25-2002, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by someone99

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Thats still ALOT for one level maker. All they really need is update level.

I agree, first off they don't need RC unless it is the Chief or Admin , second they have no business with the rights to d/c players or view the attributes , that is a GP's job and I don't even allow the GP's to d/c players , all it does is generate complaints and abuse of it. All of my Staff can update levels and warpto player and can do that without RC and that is all they need to do....unless it is a GP.

ZanderX · #20 04-25-2002, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I agree, first off they don't need RC unless it is the Chief or Admin , second they have no business with the rights to d/c players or view the attributes , that is a GP's job and I don't even allow the GP's to d/c players , all it does is generate complaints and abuse of it. All of my Staff can update levels and warpto player and can do that without RC and that is all they need to do....unless it is a GP.

THERE ARE NO GPS ON GRAAL 2001. STOP COMPARING TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SERVERS AS IF THEY WERE EQUAL.

Psyker · #21 04-25-2002, 05:51 AM

[angry]

I STILL DON'T SEE HOW THESE LEVEL MAKERS RECEIVE RC ACCESS WHEN CRONO AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR RC ACCESS FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW.

[/angry]

omni-m00gle · #22 04-25-2002, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

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Ditto.

ZanderX · #23 04-25-2002, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker
[angry]

I STILL DON'T SEE HOW THESE LEVEL MAKERS RECEIVE RC ACCESS WHEN CRONO AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR RC ACCESS FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW.

[/angry]

Because Stefan HAETS YUO@!@!!@!@@!

Actually, they're playeraccount RCs which work on 2k1 and 2k1 only, global is a different story which I wish I could take care of for you.

Psyker · #24 04-25-2002, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Because Stefan HAETS YUO@!@!!@!@@!

Actually, they're playeraccount RCs which work on 2k1 and 2k1 only, global is a different story which I wish I could take care of for you.

Oh.

I never knew that. ;c

Lyndzey · #25 04-25-2002, 06:17 AM

SFX Admin gets RC too guys! I wonder what he needs it for? Updating levels to unpause paused people, or maybe disconnecting the NPC server? How about reseting everyone when he is really mad at someone?

Yes, those things can happen. If someone is about to be fired, or think they are going to be fired, that is what will happen.

ZanderX · #26 04-25-2002, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
SFX Admin gets RC too guys! I wonder what he needs it for? Updating levels to unpause paused people, or maybe disconnecting the NPC server? How about reseting everyone when he is really mad at someone?

Yes, those things can happen. If someone is about to be fired, or think they are going to be fired, that is what will happen.

Need to fix that.

GangsterBebop · #27 04-25-2002, 06:53 AM

This is my opinion, giving LAT's the rights like "reset attributes" is very good idea. This way we dont have a jobs like (Account Restarter) or (Level Updater)? Seems to me that is what some of you think. I do not think that LAT's need ftp, but RC is nice to have for them so they can communicate with the other staff and have private "staff" conversations. Some servers, their staff is like a community, that is how a veiw Providence. We all go on rc, do our jobs etc, and help players etc. We sometimes tell jokes, or neo *cough* has his few pranks that freaks out me *cough*. This way the staff get to know eachother, and some what dont feel left out. Being a LAT, it's nice to know what the admins have planned. My opinion, dont flame me.

Torankusu · #28 04-25-2002, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by someone99

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Thats still ALOT for one level maker. All they really need is update level.

Who is it you expect to upload the levels?

freddyfox · #29 04-25-2002, 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Who is it you expect to upload the levels?

Y'know, I ask myself that question everytime I look at my inbox and am completely overjoyed to see a zillion emails saying "UPLODE KINGDOM PLZ" in it.

DeathChill · #30 04-25-2002, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey
SFX Admin gets RC too guys! I wonder what he needs it for? Updating levels to unpause paused people, or maybe disconnecting the NPC server? How about reseting everyone when he is really mad at someone?

Yes, those things can happen. If someone is about to be fired, or think they are going to be fired, that is what will happen.

yup yup

RamiAharonov · #31 04-25-2002, 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

yup yup

ono, when dchill quits/gets fired, we can expect all accounts to be deleted

DeathChill · #32 04-25-2002, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by RamiAharonov

ono, when dchill quits/gets fired, we can expect all accounts to be deleted

shhh! j/k

Neonight · #33 04-25-2002, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

shhh! j/k

"1337hax0r" I CUVR UP FER YUO N SEY I HAX0RED THE RCS ANDAHAHSFKAHSFHAHAHAHSFHASFHAHFAHSHFAH

DeathChill · #34 04-25-2002, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by draygin

the insult of some ones spelling is the work of a ***** who cant think of anything else to ***** about.

RC is needed to communicate better between staff members if you had half a brain youd know this.

If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them.

Yes Reset isnt needed for LAT's I never asked for it. But one might also ask why must a person wait for a reset when they need one and there are people capable of doing it? Has there been reports of people resetting others out of spite on g2k1? Have you seen any ART on g2k1 in the past couple of weeks?

Is your intelligence high enough for you to make a post with out resulting to insults because you're not competent enough to make a valid point?

Not really..ART is not a staff position anymore..You don't need RC to communicate to staff.I do it quite fine when I'm not even on RC. Also, I make levels with 2 graal's up all the time..EASY. You can just make the online graal small and WHY would you need 2 graal's up?

Neonight · #35 04-25-2002, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

Not really..ART is not a staff position anymore..You don't need RC to communicate to staff.I do it quite fine when I'm not even on RC. Also, I make levels with 2 graal's up all the time..EASY. You can just make the online graal small and WHY would you need 2 graal's up?

I have **** for ram that musta come out of a sewer because I can't have 2 Graal clients open at the same time.

DeathChill · #36 04-25-2002, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

I have **** for ram that musta come out of a sewer because I can't have 2 Graal clients open at the same time.

You must have a horrible computer

I feel for you

Neonight · #37 04-25-2002, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
You must have a horrible computer
I feel for you

It's not actually that bad...

I mean it's almost 2 years old, but 733 mhz, 64 MB Ram (*gulp*)
and some other crap...

BUT at the end of this month I'm building my own computer from www.econopc.com and www.compubuzz.com

Specs:

Intel Motherboard
P4 1.66 gigahertz (I wanted Athlong... but oh well.)
300 Watt ATX Case
Soundblaster Live 5.1 Sound Card (I don't give a **** about sound... If I can hear it, it's fine.)
ATI Radeon 54 MB DDr 4X AGP (Again.. I wanted the Radeon 8500, but $350 is nowhere in my price range.)

IBM 60 Gig EIDE 7200 ATA-100 HD. (Not too bad)

someone99 · #38 04-25-2002, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

the insult of some ones spelling is the work of a ***** who cant think of anything else to ***** about.

RC is needed to communicate better between staff members if you had half a brain youd know this.

If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them.

Yes Reset isnt needed for LAT's I never asked for it. But one might also ask why must a person wait for a reset when they need one and there are people capable of doing it? Has there been reports of people resetting others out of spite on g2k1? Have you seen any ART on g2k1 in the past couple of weeks?

Is your intelligence high enough for you to make a post with out resulting to insults because you're not competent enough to make a valid point?

The insult of someones spelling isnt an excuse, its telling you to learn better grammar for you're in a COUNTRY THAT LACKS ITS OWN GRAMMAR. Your posts are hard to read because of lack of commas.

RC is not needed to communicate between staff members. Thats just a pitiful excuse.

"If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them."

Sorry, ive made many levels while being on 2k1 and that never happened. Stop being an idiot(OH YEAH THATS NOT POSSIBLE).

Madmartigan, you're a ***** so im not going to bother arguing with you any longer. You lose.

Lyndzey, there is a difference between a simple level maker and an admin. Ex: Head level maker, Police Chief, NPC Admin, etc.

Sure, he doesent need reset or disconnect, but its not as bad as a LEVEL MAKER having it.

I could agree with your rant if they had an "SFX Maker" tag that got rc though.

freddyfox · #39 04-25-2002, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by someone99
"If you had ever tried makign a level while being logged into the graal server you'd know its barely possible because when you move the scroll bars it jumps across from lag as well as the tiles not going where you direct them."

Sorry, ive made many levels while being on 2k1 and that never happened. Stop being an idiot(OH YEAH THATS NOT POSSIBLE).

It's happened to me plenty of times before.

freddyfox · #40 04-25-2002, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

The reason I am complaining about SFX Admin having RC is because it's a pointless and stupid position. The only reason he has that job is because he's friends with Birdbird.

Not really. He's the guy that does all the music and stuff for G2K1. (And it's rather good.) Although I don't think he needs RC to do a job such as that.