Very important announcement - Page 27

Griffyn · #**391** 04-21-2002, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Psyker

it's pretty easy.

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Milkdude99 · #**392** 04-22-2002, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

If I had an away tag on, and someone got auto-PMed back saying "I am currently away." when they were PMing me someting überimportant, I'd sure as hell be mad.

Otherwise, I agree. You shouldn't need a LAT tag on to work.

I disagree , if you are working then your tag needs to be on , if you are not then get on your personal account , then you don't have to be bothered with the PMs. I don't know about your server you are working on but on Npulse they are only allowed to "work" on Staff accounts not play the game . that is not what Staff accounts are for. So if you are working you have to have your tag on otherwise you are on your personal player account .

Neonight · #**393** 04-22-2002, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I disagree , if you are working then your tag needs to be on , if you are not then get on your personal account , then you don't have to be bothered with the PMs. I don't know about your server you are working on but on Npulse they are only allowed to "work" on Staff accounts not play the game . that is not what Staff accounts are for. So if you are working you have to have your tag on otherwise you are on your personal player account .

Hell, I'd suggest not even having the Graal client even on if you're going to make levels. If you have a crapload of RAM, then that's one thing. If you don't, then don't even bother trying to load 2 Graal clients at the same time. Most of our staff come on as RC accounts, and play on them because they can still warp to players if anyone ever needs it. Staff accounts are for RC--there's no use in giving some FAQ or NAT RC unless they seriously need it. It's just a waste of RC account. (npcserver) is one thing, since both programs are combined.

Milkdude99 · #**394** 04-23-2002, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

Hell, I'd suggest not even having the Graal client even on if you're going to make levels. If you have a crapload of RAM, then that's one thing. If you don't, then don't even bother trying to load 2 Graal clients at the same time. Most of our staff come on as RC accounts, and play on them because they can still warp to players if anyone ever needs it. Staff accounts are for RC--there's no use in giving some FAQ or NAT RC unless they seriously need it. It's just a waste of RC account. (npcserver) is one thing, since both programs are combined.

I agree with that , if you are making levels why even have Graal up?You only need to have Graal up (RC) when uploading said levels , having both up at the same time makes no sense and just drags down your comp ...Then too how do you take care of the players making levels?Players get ignored that way and creates ill feelings toward the server and not good for the server at all.As for RC , only Admins and GPs and the Chiefs have RC no one else does , ET, FAQ and even Lats have no purpose with RC , only the high Lats do because on Npulse only 5 PPL can upload to the server, Moon Goddess and I (Moon God) and the Lat Chief and asst Chief
and one Admin (Saga) who is over the LATs and FAQ that's it no one else has the rights to upload anything to the server and that is how it will stay...Too many ppl uploading only causes real headaches for the server and no one knows who is doing what..in this way I have described everything is done thru the Lat Chief with the help of his Admin and that's it , this way it keeps all organized to what is being done....

shavomombetto · #**395** 04-23-2002, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Well it's called Business and Graal whether you want to admit to it or not IS a Business and unless you OWN a part of it , then you won't have much or any say so in it , that's life and I hate to put it this way but get used to it , life is seldom fair.

without the players there would be no game, therefore, they should listen to the players and their needs

Kamaeru · #**396** 04-23-2002, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I disagree , if you are working then your tag needs to be on , if you are not then get on your personal account , then you don't have to be bothered with the PMs. I don't know about your server you are working on but on Npulse they are only allowed to "work" on Staff accounts not play the game . that is not what Staff accounts are for. So if you are working you have to have your tag on otherwise you are on your personal player account .

some servers don't have rc/staff accounts for every single staff, so they use their normal - player - account and get tag made for that one...

toad1413 · #**397** 04-23-2002, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I disagree , if you are working then your tag needs to be on , if you are not then get on your personal account , then you don't have to be bothered with the PMs. I don't know about your server you are working on but on Npulse they are only allowed to "work" on Staff accounts not play the game . that is not what Staff accounts are for. So if you are working you have to have your tag on otherwise you are on your personal player account .

Um, hate to break it to you, but people will pm you even if you are on your personal account.

Timpan3 · #**398** 04-23-2002, 08:15 PM

That would be a great excuse to ask your parents to buy a p2p, saying that you need 15 $ to pay for classic eitherway..
I got a p2p because i heard about this classic stuff..

TehFox · #**399** 04-24-2002, 03:53 AM

can you ask stefan to make it so we can setup our own servers and they will be up while we are online that would own but i doubt he would but still worth a try

ZeroFXSM · #**400** 04-24-2002, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Timpan3
That would be a great excuse to ask your parents to buy a p2p, saying that you need 15 $ to pay for classic eitherway..
I got a p2p because i heard about this classic stuff..

No its not,

Because if your parents wouldn't upgrade your account for 40 dollars a year. Then they wouldn't upgrade it for 15 dollars a life.

Most parents don't like their children "wasting" time on online games. Its a known fact. And adults who can judge for my selves.. most adults don't "Play Graal"

heh?

Aknts · #**401** 04-24-2002, 08:50 AM

Yeah.

Timpan3 · #**402** 04-24-2002, 12:13 PM

I mean, some kids like graal because its free, and some kids dont even mention p2p, so what i meant was that kids would maybe talk with their parents about it, either way money is the only sollution, so why not get a p2p ey?

Neonight · #**403** 04-24-2002, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by ZeroFXSM

No its not,

Because if your parents wouldn't upgrade your account for 40 dollars a year. Then they wouldn't upgrade it for 15 dollars a life.

Most parents don't like their children "wasting" time on online games. Its a known fact. And adults who can judge for my selves.. most adults don't "Play Graal"

heh?

I think I agree with him... kind of... It's not an excuse, but it would be much easier to pay $15 than $40, if you ask me. You pay a quarter of the price and get it all but two servers for life.
I'll be able to play Graal2001/2002 until some time in June. Brad upgraded this account for a year.

omni-m00gle · #**404** 04-24-2002, 08:36 PM

i must admit, it does sound a lot better.

as far as people totally against p2p:

everything costs money eventually, someway or another, in life. if your parents don't want to pay money for you to play, then get your lazy ass off the computer for a few days, earn 15 bucks, and find some way to register. maybe a friend who plays graal will register your account for you on his/her's parent's CC or something. i don't know. it's not that hard, though.

GrowlZP2P · #**405** 04-24-2002, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
That's like saying NO to weedkiller because it will, in fact, kill weeds.

Actually, my original point was we lose skilled players who keep free GraalOnline up. The people who make the systems, scripts, levels and graphics that make people WANT to pay for playing Graal. Weedkiller kills flowers too.

Yes, I do have $15. In fact I have more and am perfectly willing to spend this on a Graal subscription. Unfortunately the fact that I'm not American removes the possibility of a 1-800 (ever heard of "long distance call charges"?), and the fact that I do not possess a credit card removes the possibility of PayPal. Thus I cannot upgrade. Swell, huh? (I've sent an email off to Graal asking if they have other methods of payment, such as cash or international money order. If they do then I will upgrade.)

I appreciate perfectly that Graal needs money to keep it running. However, wouldn't a sort of "teaser" function, where you can play each p2p server for, say, a few minutes a day to see what you think, be better? Showing people what they get for their money before they make a commitment?