Updates on Oasis and more - Page 3

Frolic_RC2 · #1 03-31-2002, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Simple comparison of Murasamune character to Oasis character.

When I checked my gif program and copied and pasted each character in individually, I got these results:

Murasamune - uses 42 colors
Oasis - uses 19 colors

Then compare my character, to the Murasamune character, and figure out why they say that my graphics are nice because I use fewer colors.

Did I ever say characters? For 1, characters are not rescricted on colors - 256 colors allowed with them. For 2, that is a base body, without equipment. Compare that body to your character without equipment, then we have a fair comparison. Until then, it isn't a valid compare. For 3, compare our tilesets. 2 level screenshots would be a valid compare, I have one somewhere in a Murasamune thread, look for it then compare.

Frolic_RC2 · #2 03-31-2002, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2
Heh i wonder which one loks better lmao!!!!!!
If u didnt know Oasis's looks far better

Read above post, then make a foolish remark. His body has equipment on, mine doesn't. Compare the bodies without equipment, then it is all good.

As I said above, bodies do not matter with colors, and tiles are the only thing which can be compared color wise...I would compare it myself, but read my sig.

konidias · #3 03-31-2002, 08:39 AM

Oh please, do not cry in front of us. What, so my guy has a belt and sword attached to him, big deal. I doubt a sword attached to your guy is going to make a big difference. I was just using that as an example because that is my basic character, and I was just showing that even with attachments of weapons and things, my character still uses less then half the amount of color as yours.

I also noticed the characters are nearly the same height (from foot to head anyway) Yet mine seem so much bigger for some reason.

I could add extremely small details to my characters clothing like a hundred little seperated pixels and wrinkles in the shirt, but they are hardly noticeable unless I use more colors.

You go and complain and get all worked up when people say my graphics are better then yours. Why is this? Then you must make excuses and such. After looking at your character, I see it would be hard to make an entire animated version of it (pulling, attacking, sitting, etc) and even more work to have to make more then that one body. Is this the reason you have delayed Murasamune?

Don't even get pissy with me about this. You're the one coming here and bringing your comments about my graphic skills, so if you can't take the heat, then don't post here starting things you can't finish. I could name off about 100 different things not professional or great about your character and tileset, but then I would be just like you and that is not my wish.

Frolic_RC2 · #4 03-31-2002, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Oh please, do not cry in front of us. What, so my guy has a belt and sword attached to him, big deal. I doubt a sword attached to your guy is going to make a big difference. I was just using that as an example because that is my basic character, and I was just showing that even with attachments of weapons and things, my character still uses less then half the amount of color as yours.

I also noticed the characters are nearly the same height (from foot to head anyway) Yet mine seem so much bigger for some reason.

I could add extremely small details to my characters clothing like a hundred little seperated pixels and wrinkles in the shirt, but they are hardly noticeable unless I use more colors.

You go and complain and get all worked up when people say my graphics are better then yours. Why is this? Then you must make excuses and such. After looking at your character, I see it would be hard to make an entire animated version of it (pulling, attacking, sitting, etc) and even more work to have to make more then that one body. Is this the reason you have delayed Murasamune?

Don't even get pissy with me about this. You're the one coming here and bringing your comments about my graphic skills, so if you can't take the heat, then don't post here starting things you can't finish. I could name off about 100 different things not professional or great about your character and tileset, but then I would be just like you and that is not my wish.

Yes, bringing up a perfectly valid and logical arguement is really whining

. I will show the animation of walking and such once my comp is back, which will be sometime next week.

Murasamune is on hold for a few reasons,which I have no reason to speak of. It has nothing to do with me not being capable of working on it, or maybe I'm working on it secretly? I don't know.

As for the body, I can use as many colors as needed, as I already said, and am about to say again, with "gani graphics" I have 256 colors at my disposal, per graphic. The character has about 10 or so seperate graphics, more or less (would give an exact number if I had access to the files). Once again, compare 2 screenshots, and you may have a valid arguement.

You seem to take everything offensively, so now I give you something which is actually to be taken offensively. You clearly are only looking for publicity, and I doubt oasis will be anywhere near as good as people believe. You are just looking to have the people on your side, which in the end will become oasis' defeat. Work in secret, because this "public work" will not help oasis get any better.

dragoonvenganc · #5 03-31-2002, 11:57 AM

u both need to grow up and "finish" your servers and let the players decide which one they like best

Why dont u guys tell us some about game play and what players will do on your server personally i could not care less about who uses more colors and who's shirts are wrinkled

Frolic_RC2 · #6 03-31-2002, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by dragoonvenganc
u both need to grow up and "finish" your servers and let the players decide which one they like best

Why dont u guys tell us some about game play and what players will do on your server personally i could not care less about who uses more colors and who's shirts are wrinkled

? I'm not working on any server. Haven't done anything for Mura for at least a month now.

Lao_Su2 · #7 04-01-2002, 12:26 AM

Heh and why exactly was my "remark" foolish its obvious which character is better =\
His looks so much more fun to play as...I would see your character in a little harry potter card or something because even if you do add "equipment" to the body it will still look not as good as that character that Konidias

Frolic_RC2 · #8 04-01-2002, 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2
Heh and why exactly was my "remark" foolish its obvious which character is better =\
His looks so much more fun to play as...I would see your character in a little harry potter card or something because even if you do add "equipment" to the body it will still look not as good as that character that Konidias

Heres a...pretty old if I remember right...screen of it with some (test) equipment on. Had to go digging for it...heh...
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/a...&postid=456114

Konidias will probably find this post offensive, some how. He always finds a way...

Lao_Su2 · #9 04-01-2002, 03:42 AM

Heh lets just say that your character is good for the PW you are building and Konidias's character is good for the PW he is building because they both look like the background's of your servers it would look odd if Koidias's character was on that level because of the look and vise versa (sp?) so lets just leave it at that heh

Frolic_RC2 · #10 04-01-2002, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2
Heh lets just say that your character is good for the PW you are building and Konidias's character is good for the PW he is building because they both look like the background's of your servers it would look odd if Koidias's character was on that level because of the look and vise versa (sp?) so lets just leave it at that heh

Yeah, agreed.

Bird2prey · #11 04-01-2002, 11:51 AM

I don't like Murasamune graphics, they're too over detailed and grainy.

Frolic_RC2 · #12 04-01-2002, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey
I don't like Murasamune graphics, they're too over detailed and grainy.

Well, I really don't care, I work on Murasamune because I enjoy, and if players like it or not it is up to them. Taken a long time to realize this, and now I do, which is why I no longer show progress. Because I mean, what do I have to give to you people? Am I paid? No...so I do it for my fun, and I don't care about peoples opinions anymore.

DeathChill · #13 04-01-2002, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2

Heres a...pretty old if I remember right...screen of it with some (test) equipment on. Had to go digging for it...heh...
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/a...&postid=456114

Konidias will probably find this post offensive, some how. He always finds a way...

BEAUTIFUL TILES <3
I like both but I prefer Soul Blades for some reason o.o
I like realistic looks ;D
Konidias's is nice too

I prefer Murasamune tileset and Konidias's character ;x

Frolic_RC2 · #14 04-01-2002, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
BEAUTIFUL TILES <3
I like both but I prefer Soul Blades for some reason o.o
I like realistic looks ;D
Konidias's is nice too
I prefer Murasamune tileset and Konidias's character ;x

Bah who cares, this is an oasis thread...

Boozy_Bravo · #15 04-01-2002, 03:56 PM

Wow, konidias, that looks great.

Only thing I don't really like is that bush...

As for the other issue, both Murasamune and Oasis have nice graphics, but Oasis looks more like a place I'd want to play on.

Lao_Su2 · #16 04-01-2002, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2

Well, I really don't care, I work on Murasamune because I enjoy, and if players like it or not it is up to them. Taken a long time to realize this, and now I do, which is why I no longer show progress. Because I mean, what do I have to give to you people? Am I paid? No...so I do it for my fun, and I don't care about peoples opinions anymore.

I think you should care about some people's opinions just for one reason they help make your PW secsesfull(ack sp?)
I personally think it looks great and can wait to play both to see what the content for each will be like

WHIPENIE4 · #17 04-01-2002, 09:07 PM

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I don't like Murasamune graphics, they're too over detailed and grainy.

Graphics for murasamune are pretty good , except the bush you cant really see it. Also graphics arent everything..... take some of the ps1 games thier graphics suck, but then the gameplay is awsome and thats what makes you want to keep playing.
If Murasamune can make a good enviroment for players, and the gameplay is good then i dont think that his tileset "sucking" will matter much, and by what i can tell from his system and some of the screen shots he's given us... i have a feeling it will turn out good. Same with Kondias ppl might think his graphics suck... but thats not everything.

Frolic_RC2 · #18 04-02-2002, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2

I think you should care about some people's opinions just for one reason they help make your PW secsesfull(ack sp?)
I personally think it looks great and can wait to play both to see what the content for each will be like

I don't think you understood that post. Success might be good, but I care more about having fun making it. This isn't a job, its a hobby, showing players the work doesn't really help unless I'm not sure myself - like comparing those old bodies. Player input got me to change the old garbage body. Other then that, player input just gets people mad...go use the search feature, and type Murasamune, look for some threads and see what I mean. People never really give any useful input...heh, no offense to anyone, but just saying good things about some work will...well I can't think of the word....but I dunno.

Frolic_RC2 · #19 04-02-2002, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4

except the bush you cant really see it.

Heh, I have said this many times, but look at the flowers, and grass. Notice there are more then one thing of each? In fact, there will be many of each. Those are not bushes for one, they are something else which I have forgotten the word, and they fall in the category of plant life. It won't be limited to graals small number of plant life, it will have a very wide range of plant life...

But who cares, This is a oasis thread

WHIPENIE4 · #20 04-02-2002, 01:59 AM

ahh, that explains a lot

LittleBabyGirl_Bomy · #21 04-02-2002, 05:37 AM

show some lava or snow tiles

btw.. 100th post on this thread