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Old 01-31-2002, 11:12 AM
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Babylon is DEAD

in the first couple of weeks after it release like 30-40 people plays on it now only like 15 plays on it and most are staffs k.ANOTHER DEAD SERVER.
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Old 01-31-2002, 11:14 AM
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true... that's what you get when you just rip off 2001 and make it Free... people get bored faster...

Besides you couldn't earn anything... the only way is to PK...
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Old 01-31-2002, 12:25 PM
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yet another free server.... down the drain.. the only free server i even look forward to right now is ViVi's Final Star
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Re: Babylon is DEAD

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in the first couple of weeks after it release like 30-40 people plays on it now only like 15 plays on it and most are staffs k.ANOTHER DEAD SERVER.
I know, after I quit it just went downhill, same
with Andor ... Hopefully some work i've been
helping Lord Helmut will help it draw some more
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Old 01-31-2002, 12:29 PM
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Babylon looked like a very promising server too
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Old 01-31-2002, 12:34 PM
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YES!!!!! WE SHOULD MERGE DELTERIA AND ELVEN LANDS!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2002, 02:01 PM
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Delteria isn't dead...
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Old 01-31-2002, 03:10 PM
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gee, maybe if all the dead servers came together maybe something would come out other then a big mess? :P
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Old 01-31-2002, 05:09 PM
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Yeah, poor Lord Helmut
I really liked babylon too
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Old 01-31-2002, 07:49 PM
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YES!!!!! WE SHOULD MERGE DELTERIA AND ELVEN LANDS!!!!!
Delteria is NOT dead.
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Old 01-31-2002, 09:26 PM
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gee, maybe if all the dead servers came together maybe something would come out other then a big mess? :P
gee, maybe not.
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Old 02-01-2002, 12:38 AM
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i know its not dead but it would still be the ultimate server
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:40 AM
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Delteria isn't dead at all, it's one of the bigger servers after N-Pulse and UN and has good quality.
You know it;s not really fair, though, how good quality servers like Babylon all go out and die.. it just doesn't make sense
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:51 AM
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Re: Babylon is DEAD

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in the first couple of weeks after it release like 30-40 people plays on it now only like 15 plays on it and most are staffs k.ANOTHER DEAD SERVER.
heh i played on it for a bit i explored everything and left nothing really good there
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Old 02-01-2002, 02:05 AM
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But the problem is is that when I went on babylon as a free account, there were 72 ghosts waiting to get online
Stefan should take a look at how many ghosts are acculy waiting to get on a server,
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Old 02-01-2002, 03:10 AM
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The worst feature of graal is the non-p2p ghost wait mode thing. I hate that :grrr:
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Old 02-01-2002, 03:11 AM
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people think cuzt hey got awesome scripts and levels and all that, that their playerworld will be the best out.
There is more to playerworld then content
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Old 02-01-2002, 03:58 AM
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YES!!!!! WE SHOULD MERGE DELTERIA AND ELVEN LANDS!!!!!
First off, I never liked Elven Lands.... Second off, Delteria is doing extremely well since I.P. is gone and we have redesigned the server completely... and finally we get more people than many other playersworlds by ourself, so I don't know why we would want to join up with a playerworld of lesser quality; Elven Lands would just be getting a free ride.
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:00 AM
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Ok well first off Babylon is far from dead. We have many projects. Some cannot be talked about to the public but I will show some screenshots of some stuff were working on.

For one Hunting is almost done. Its much better than any I have seen (the animals actually move). It gets very in depth and you can earn meat, leather, points etc. With points you can get the Long Bow or the Crossbow.

Also, Godspeed came on and said that we need some games and such so...I am making a Mortal Kombat type game that uses axes. I have just started it but its comming along great. We havent had a great expansion on the overworld because I have been redoing ugly (old) levels.

Although the overworld is not expanding rapidly, we are making another quest. Its more of a puzzle quest rather than a slash the baddies and get lost quest. Its comming along good and isnt to far from being done. We also have a new small quest up just to get an easy item.

The playerhouse system is done so you can add and remove tenants (Only a certain tenant to each room so money cant be stolen)

We are adding a mountain along the upper ridge of the overworld which will have the options of wine making (for money) 2 towns, and the Dark Kingdom (For the RPing part)

Heres some sample screenshots.

This is one for showing the meatbar and crossbow and deer for hunting
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:03 AM
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Here is one of the Axe im making for the upcomming game
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:04 AM
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Here is one of the Kuro (babylon pet) using attack.
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:06 AM
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Here is one of the command Stroll that you can use to take control of the Kuro. Then lay a bomb
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:07 AM
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Woops the screenshot above is being attacked by one of the baddies. Here is the one using the Kuro Attack
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:43 AM
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you shopuld have put more stuiff up before you released it bc after the players played on it and quit they won't come back or know that there's new stuff and the newbies probably is going to go to the places with alot of people and stuff
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Old 02-01-2002, 06:05 AM
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people choose to bad mouth Babylon. I get on and see a ton worse places like Rudora and things. Yes, anyways, I would rather have a PlayerCount of 20 (4 being staff) and have the players be nice and mature
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Cool

sorry helmut right now there arent to many peeps online but if u work on itit will go up cus te server is new....

but if it is dead i would say becuase the map is soo small and many thing are ripped....

Yet another idea from 2001 .... HUNTING it good just hope it will b better
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Old 02-01-2002, 06:37 AM
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Are you illiterate? I didnt barely understand that (reread it 3 times) I will try and respond. By being ripped you mean the PH's and the Kuros, they arent. I made the houses in the image of a real house. Instead of a large room with a bed and blocks and so on blocking the way. Its an actual house where people can live and stuff.

The Kuros are just pets. Unfortunately Kuros made by players and submitted sometimes look like bomys. We try not to pass them but if they look very good we cant not pass them because they have a round shape.

So please explain what you mean by ripoffs
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Old 02-01-2002, 06:38 AM
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sorry helmut right now there arent to many peeps online but if u work on itit will go up cus te server is new....

but if it is dead i would say becuase the map is soo small and many thing are ripped....

Yet another idea from 2001 .... HUNTING it good just hope it will b better
So because Hunting has it I cant have it? Because it ties in with the Babylon theme but now I shouldnt use it because 2001 has it? Lets go scan the PlayerWorlds for anything that has the same thing as 2001. I think I saw mining on...3/4ths of the PWs up! LETS SAY THEY COPY 2001!

Anyways, 2001's hunting sucks balls
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Old 02-01-2002, 06:51 AM
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I think ideas are better.
if u make a pet that is somewhat like a bomy thats basically copying the "idea"
but coming up w/ unused ideas are hard these days
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Old 02-01-2002, 07:40 AM
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Yea, so those birds or whatever that follow u around on UN are copying to (just pointing out were not alone here)
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Old 02-01-2002, 10:35 AM
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Why did you guys all of a sudden stop posting once I put up some screenshots?
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I think Babylon is going along great. It has a lot more creativity then most player worlds out there currently. LordHelmut, the hunting system looks great and I can't wait to see this "Mortal kombat" game of yours. Keep up the good work.
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Cool, i finaly get to see the axe that i made in action. Also the only reason why people say that kuros a ripped bomys because they havent used them. Most of the people are mad because they cant have kuros and decide to put down them. Also i dont remember but Babylon was sapposed to be labeled as under construction for a longer period then we had so thats why we have so little players because were still working.

Yeah LH its funny all the people stopped posting once you put up screen shots.
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Old 02-02-2002, 03:28 AM
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Cool, i finaly get to see the axe that i made in action. Also the only reason why people say that kuros a ripped bomys because they havent used them. Most of the people are mad because they cant have kuros and decide to put down them. Also i dont remember but Babylon was sapposed to be labeled as under construction for a longer period then we had so thats why we have so little players because were still working.

Yeah LH its funny all the people stopped posting once you put up screen shots.
Yea TinMan is the creator of the GFX for the axe. He did a kickass job on it. Kuros are nothing like Bomys and in my opinion a lot better.

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people choose to bad mouth Babylon. I get on and see a ton worse places like Rudora and things. Yes, anyways, I would rather have a PlayerCount of 20 (4 being staff) and have the players be nice and mature
Rudora is bad, eh?
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Rudora is bad, eh?
its not that great =/
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its not that great =/
I agree, but only because there is nothing to keep me occupied
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I believe Events would bring players to this server. Its Levels are built tremendously. Its the best levels i've ever seen. But its in need of Events, Events draw players toward the servers.
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