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Old 08-27-2001, 11:08 PM
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why don't you just change murasamune or something
Well I have some older versions which are alot better then servers like DD...so I'm sure it would pass...

You see the only problem is it would make players think thats the real Murasamune...thats why I haven't done it...
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Good bye, from now on no one will ever see anything about Murasamune. I'm leaving the forums. I am not leaving my server. I don't care anymore you people are complete ***got nerdy freaks. You have 0 intelligence, and are hypricrates. You do everything I do, and don't see it. I will work on my server, I will work on it as best I can. I don't care what people think of it.
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If only that were true.

btw, if you have a problem with New World, you have a problem with me. I am a part of New World, and it is a part of me.
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Re: Re: Re: Murasamune...probably gone....

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SPARE ME. That is the stupidest thing I have heard since "Damn you fine!!!!" from Soto. Graal 2001 is a good server, Murasamune is a horrid collage of tiles that look only semi-realistic and barely, if they even do, fit Graal. I would take DooMSDay!!! over Murasamune any day of the week. Murasamune would be horrible anyways, with people like Soul Blade running it.
You would rather play Doomsday over Doragon Koden
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Old 08-28-2001, 01:57 AM
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You're a stuck-up Malak, i never did such a thing and it's not something i did still.
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Old 08-28-2001, 02:12 AM
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You people aren't worth it. Get a life people, becaue you seem to have none.
WE PLAY GRAAL!
Oh and I take you you have such a big life. It only seems like you are scripting and posting all day and night but in reality you're actually out with the ladies all the time and going to clubs, right Soul Blade?

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I joined murasamune becausr it had potential...not that its gone...
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If you people actrually cared about each other you got problems...I never played graal for friends. I don't want internet friends thats ***.
I TRIED to respect you, but you've crossed the line.

These are REAL PEOPLE on the other end. It is no different then real life, except we're typing on computers, not talking in real life.
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Old 08-28-2001, 05:10 AM
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You do know that Stefan is NOT the pw tester right? and if you did send it to him that he gets like 300 emails a day.. i doubt he would have enough time to read every email...... I do agree with you about some of these pw i mean ToT has been up for decades and its still not done all there is is one level which isnt that good. that should be kicked off DD should be kicked off the tiling on that server is horrible ok pretty much all the servers except

New Main
Main
N-Pulse - if it gets some better levels fast
Sanastrata - good pw just needs to fill in some houses
Providance
Faharia- its a good server just need to get its levels up
other then that they all suck
and should be taking down and replaced with better ones.
also a suggestion Stefan you should hire more ppl to look at pw there's only 2 and i bet they get sent more then 1 pw a day and it should take at least mabe 2 days to fully look at a pw so.. hire some more pw testers so we can get the GOOD servers up .
ok first of all he doesn't delete most of them because different people have different ideas on what a good server is... not everyone likes the same things you do...
some people like pking servers and others dont and ect...
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You do know that Stefan is NOT the pw tester right? and if you did send it to him that he gets like 300 emails a day.. i doubt he would have enough time to read every email...... I do agree with you about some of these pw i mean ToT has been up for decades and its still not done all there is is one level which isnt that good. that should be kicked off DD should be kicked off the tiling on that server is horrible ok pretty much all the servers except

New Main
Main
N-Pulse - if it gets some better levels fast
Sanastrata - good pw just needs to fill in some houses
Providance
Faharia- its a good server just need to get its levels up
other then that they all suck
and should be taking down and replaced with better ones.
also a suggestion Stefan you should hire more ppl to look at pw there's only 2 and i bet they get sent more then 1 pw a day and it should take at least mabe 2 days to fully look at a pw so.. hire some more pw testers so we can get the GOOD servers up .
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Old 08-28-2001, 06:07 AM
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Well If you bring it up Shrimp, It is a high possibility. I'm just stating the truth.


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Old 08-28-2001, 07:57 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Murasamune...probably gone....

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SPARE ME. Graal 2001 is a good server, Murasamune is a horrid collage of tiles that look only semi-realistic and barely, if they even do, fit Graal. I would take DooMSDay!!! over Murasamune any day of the week. Murasamune would be horrible anyways, with people like Soul Blade running it.
G2K1 is a newbie filled world runned by idiotic *****s that can't do a good job.

Doomsday is almost as bas as Delteria.

YOU know nothing about Murasamune. Yeah Soulblade does say things that people don't like to hear, it's HIS own opinion, he has the right to say it. If he thinks that NW sux, then let him think that.
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Old 08-28-2001, 08:54 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Murasamune...probably gone....

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G2K1 is a newbie filled world runned by idiotic *****s that can't do a good job.

Doomsday is almost as bas as Delteria.

YOU know nothing about Murasamune. Yeah Soulblade does say things that people don't like to hear, it's HIS own opinion, he has the right to say it. If he thinks that NW sux, then let him think that.
Soul Blade hasn't seen NW, why does HE judge it so negatively?
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Old 08-28-2001, 09:32 AM
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Re: Murasamune...probably gone....

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I am an idiot who is too self-absorbed to realize im not as good as i think I am so i'm leving graal forever so my superiority that occurs in ym head isn't challenged
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Old 08-28-2001, 09:10 PM
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souldblade when reading your post
I feel good about not allowing Murasamune
to be on as server yet

We don't need another server with a few levels
and some testing npcs.
Faheria, ToT and Frolic are like testing servers too
but at least their owners like the game.
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Old 08-28-2001, 09:23 PM
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souldblade when reading your post
I feel good about not allowing Murasamune
to be on as server yet

We don't need another server with a few levels
and some testing npcs.
Faheria, ToT and Frolic are like testing servers too
but at least their owners like the game.
actually I thought shadrock was leaving after completing Faheria=?
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souldblade when reading your post
I feel good about not allowing Murasamune
to be on as server yet

We don't need another server with a few levels
and some testing npcs.
Faheria, ToT and Frolic are like testing servers too
but at least their owners like the game.
Haha...at least their owners liked the game...I guess you are right then, because I certaintly don't like graal anymore, not with all the stupidity and the path servers take...and thats what I was going to change with Murasamune...but anywho who cares, I already knew how it was going to work...the whole time I knew how this works...

What angers me even more is how long I've been working on it...and W-Dragoon...how long hes been working on it...and with all this time we didn't even get online...and FINALLY Stefan tells me why.

It would have been nice if you told me months ago Stefan, but telling me now is just plain cruel...
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actually I thought shadrock was leaving after completing Faheria=?
Thats what I thought...I don't even see him on any server besides Faheria either. Samething with Godspeed...so do these people really like graal? Or...do they like their servers, not graal?
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:33 PM
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I'm not leaving after I create Faheria but we'll see what happens when New World comes out. Kaimetsu and I were talking about turning Faheria into its own game.
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Graal 2001 is totally crappy now. Not only is it filled with idiots, it's also no where near as fun as it used to be. I liked the times when STEFAN and other ADMINS hosted events. Why? Because they actually had authority and knew how to run events properly. In between events, I'd fish and fish for hours, which was actually the most fun I'd had on Graal2001. I think that the use of Graal2001 as "Stefan's Playground" has been what's obliterated interest in the server.
Yeah...but the more players that come on the more people who PM Stefan...which would be very annoying. So I guess that causes Stefan not to do the things he used to...when it was fun...
But yes I agree, Graal2001 is horrible now...it has good ideas, just not arranged properly I think. Then with that, what other server do you have to go on? Which all in all, I have reasoning to say Graal is no longer fun...but could be fun once again.

Could someone close this thread?
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:38 PM
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I'm not leaving after I create Faheria but we'll see what happens when New World comes out. Kaimetsu and I were talking about turning Faheria into its own game.
What do you mean? Hehe...me and W-Dragoon were thinking of a plan of a game...so our graphics don't go to waste...but who knows.
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:41 PM
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What do you mean? Hehe...me and W-Dragoon were thinking of a plan of a game...so our graphics don't go to waste...but who knows.
I mean a whole new Online RPG game.
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:44 PM
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I mean a whole new Online RPG game.
Thats what I mean as well...nothing to do with Graal. Just a whole new game...ha, lucky you...you got Kaimetsu to help on things.
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:46 PM
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Thats what I mean as well...nothing to do with Graal. Just a whole new game...ha, lucky you...you got Kaimetsu to help on things.
He's the programmer (Another Stefan ;D)
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He's the programmer (Another Stefan ;D)
Um... Shadrock?
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:50 PM
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Um... Shadrock?
Yes?
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What I have seen yet of M are
some testng npcs and weapons and
chaotic levels which someone said will be
be replaced, then I saw a generated overworld,
not more. Do you really think that could
beat existing playerworlds? I know that not
all playerworlds are very good, but I often see
nice stuff, e.g. on Atlantis, Frolic, Faheria.
I only hear complaining about that your
server is not put up, but not work in making your
stuff better so that it gets up. I have seen
some other nice examples of graphics and stuff
that will be put up on M (?) but have not seen in
action,

It's getting annoying to hear people complaining
about stuff and saying they will make a much better
game that beats Graal 100 times,
but cannot do a few levels and npcs of quality
to prove they can make a half-way good
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Also complaining about that I don't do events so often
anymore is strange, when I did them then
often many people complained because people
are just there to speak with me or they complain
that I 'play' instead of working on the game
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Also complaining about that I don't do events so often
anymore is strange, when I did them then
often many people complained because people
are just there to speak with me or they complain
that I 'play' instead of working on the game
It's not your fault, you are a very hard worker. You don't get any respect from anyone when you put lots of hard work into Graal. You're doing a good job.

(Oh and for anyone who is gunna nag on me for sucking up I really don't care. It's the truth he puts a lot of work into this game and he deserves some gratitude.)
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:02 PM
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Stefan is abused by the players
If we players started to pay more respect to Stefan and stop peekeying him when he is doing events and stop complaining at him generally he might be able to have fun on Graal again, maybe take part in the toalls again!

Am I wrong Stefan?
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Stefan is abused by the players
If we players started to pay more respect to Stefan and stop peekeying him when he is doing events and stop complaining at him generally he might be able to have fun on Graal again, maybe take part in the toalls again!

Am I wrong Stefan?
People just don't see that more gets done if
they just give me their ideas not first complaining
how bad it is and that it is crappy and with their
help it would be better and comments like
'thats it, I quit Graal' (after I have added golf)
and 'ok now that you have put it on you have time
for solving my problems' not seeing that Graal2001
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People just don't see that more gets done if
they just give me their ideas not first complaining
how bad it is and that it is crappy and with their
help it would be better and comments like
'thats it, I quit Graal' (after I have added golf)
and 'ok now that you have put it on you have time
for solving my problems' not seeing that Graal2001
content is may be 20% of my work
I would seriously suggest an ideas form where people can submit new ideas to an email like [email protected].
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new ideas to an email like
we have a forum for it ...
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we have a forum for it ...
Oh yea, I forgot about the future improvements forum. >.<
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:22 PM
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The players don't see how hard you guys work. Some think that you are lazy, but other people see that you work hard. The stupid ones, which there are MANY of, tend to not think first and do. It's hard, I bet, to do what you do, we need to show at least, some sympathy, and give you alot of credit for what you do.
Thanks
The thing is that if you want to get a server space
you must convince me/us/the Graal community to
put it up. If you do your own game project then that will
not be a problem (because you own it ;-) but you cannot
use the already existing work put in Graal and
cannot let someone professionaly do they work.
You will need to spend tons of hours working on
the game engine, network code, server, npc stuff,
possibly organize some money, running and protecting
the server etc. I have never really got time to
work on the content, it was more about
'nice idea I will add it if doesn't take much time'.
For newworld we are doing it different, hopefully
it turns out good. For you it is probably different:
you can concentrate on the content
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:26 PM
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Thanks
The thing is that if you want to get a server space
you must convince me/us/the Graal community to
put it up. If you do your own game project then that will
not be a problem (because you own it ;-) but you cannot
use the already existing work put in Graal and
cannot let someone professionaly do they work.
You will need to spend tons of hours working on
the game engine, network code, server, npc stuff,
possibly organize some money, running and protecting
the server etc. I have never really got time to
work on the content, it was more about
'nice idea I will add it if doesn't take much time'.
For newworld we are doing it different, hopefully
it turns out good. For you it is probably different:
you can concentrate on the content
New World seems promissing, but is there a definet release date yet?
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well from things I have made, making an offline game engine is easy (at lest for me)...

just the online junk is more confusing because you have to orginize everything and send a ton of data through the server...

and files and stuff, it just gets all hectic...
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It's about the little things
For a game like Graal (offline mode only)
you would need to code:
- reading images (gifs, pngs, mngs)
- drawing images (DirectX)
- drawing light effects
- switching between fullscreen/window mode
- playing sound and music
- joystick support
- sharing of images for different objects
- level files + level editor + level generator
- animation files + editor
- npc script parsing
- script commands
- script debugger
- configuration panels
The basic Graal offline stuff has been made
on one single day, so you can imagine that
it could possible be done in a few months
if good programmers work on it.

For online mode:
- server which stores accounts, sends it to the
player at login, saves it all few minutes, sends
data between players
- client-side network code
- special player interaction stuff like
PMs, chatting, profiles, guilds
- data compression and encryption
- automatically downloading updated levels
and graphics
- npcserver which controls dynamic obects in the
game
- tools for administration
- website tools for account creation
- configuring the server machine,
which includes making it unhackable
and updating it all few days to prevent future
hacks; also the machine needs to improved
in speed, meaning testing and installing
different libraries and kernels etc.
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Old 08-28-2001, 11:45 PM
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I forgot the community and money stuff:
you will see that you need to change the
server often because its expensive,
and people are leaving the project or
trying to destroy it or just needed to
be motivated or trying to demotivate you

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