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Old 08-30-2001, 09:00 PM
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You're all missing one thing: He wants to die. You may think it's a bad idea, but you're not living his life.

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You haven't understand one thing: That he say that he want to die doesn't mean that he just do it. First it is a cry for help!!!!!
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:06 PM
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You're all missing one thing: He wants to die. You may think it's a bad idea, but you're not living his life.

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You haven't understand one thing: That he say that he want to die doesn't mean that he just do it. First it is a cry for help!!!!!
Oh, if he doesn't really want to die then fair enough. Help him if you so wish. I thought he actually wanted to die.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:11 PM
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. . .

you don't understand anything. . .
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:13 PM
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you don't understand anything. . .
Don't say such things so easily. Just because somebody thinks differently to you does not mean that they're inherently wrong. Perhaps they've advanced to a level of thinking that you haven't?
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:21 PM
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I feel that I should say something here since I tried suicide myself a little over 2 years ago.

I am very glad the drugs I ingested made me fall asleep before I could complete the procedure. I'm also glad that my friend told me to go to sleep and to sleep it off before I ingested anymore.

I am so grateful for the chance to still be here. I think my mom and brother would've gone insane right now if they had lost both me and my father within a 2 year period. See, saving someones life isn't selfish by any means. What's selfish is the thoughts of the person who wants to commit suicide. They aren't thinking about what might happen to other people as a result of their suicide. Someone ELSE may commit suicide because the person that committed suicide did it. You have to look at it from both sides of the coin. You can't just say that the person attempting to save a persons life from it is selfish and thats the bottom line, no. You must look at it from both sides of the fence. Maybe the person committing suicide is doing it to get back at someone for the emotional torture they put them through. That, in itself, is selfish. You can't only look at it from one angle, Kaimetsu. That's pretty biased, and narrow minded.

Suicide is INDEED a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

God doens't give us obstacles we can't overcome. We can overcome everything. It just takes personal strength and determination to get over that hill.

Jack, I respect you and all, but please, don't make fun of someone because of their religion. That is very uncool. Don't do it again.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:22 PM
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Jack, I respect you and all,
You must not have seen the picture he posted then..
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:25 PM
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You must not have seen the picture he posted then..
The actions that someone portrays and the personality they possess are worlds apart.

I don't care what picture he posted. He did it to get a reaction, and thats exactly what you're providing for him.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:29 PM
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It isn't only my thinking!!! You can ask a psychologist they would told you that it was a cry for help. . . first. . .

I say this cause I have Experiences with something like this
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:36 PM
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I feel that I should say something here since I tried suicide myself a little over 2 years ago.

I am very glad the drugs I ingested made me fall asleep before I could complete the procedure. I'm also glad that my friend told me to go to sleep and to sleep it off before I ingested anymore.

I am so grateful for the chance to still be here.
But you're not the Lycia who did all that so many years ago. You're glad it didn't happen, but that's not taking into account the feelings of Lycia-2years.

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I think my mom and brother would've gone insane right now if they had lost both me and my father within a 2 year period. See, saving someones life isn't selfish by any means. What's selfish is the thoughts of the person who wants to commit suicide. They aren't thinking about what might happen to other people as a result of their suicide. Someone ELSE may commit suicide because the person that committed suicide did it. You have to look at it from both sides of the coin. You can't just say that the person attempting to save a persons life from it is selfish and thats the bottom line, no. You must look at it from both sides of the fence. Maybe the person committing suicide is doing it to get back at someone for the emotional torture they put them through. That, in itself, is selfish. You can't only look at it from one angle, Kaimetsu. That's pretty biased, and narrow minded.
It's a fair point, but who gave those people the right to attach such importance to your life? Let's say somebody came to me and said "Hey Kai, I'm gonna kill myself if you ever eat bread again." Would they have the right to do that? To demand that I rid my diet of all yeasty baked sustenance? I don't think so. Same applies to family - if they grow attached to you then they are simultaneously accepting the potential consequences.

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Suicide is INDEED a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
I agree entirely.

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God doens't give us obstacles we can't overcome. We can overcome everything. It just takes personal strength and determination to get over that hill.
I disagree. There are obstacles that are insurmountable.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:38 PM
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It isn't only my thinking!!! You can ask a psychologist they would told you that it was a cry for help. . . first. . .

I say this cause I have Experiences with something like this
If it's a cry for help then I don't much care. I thought we were talking about people who actually wanted to kill themselves.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:52 PM
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Let me clarify. I don't believe that suicide is logical. But then I don't believe that not committing suicide is logical. Neither is better than the other: humans aren't capable of pure logic. I'm not and you're not and I very much doubt anybody is. But if one approach is illogical, and the other is equally so, then why steer a person towards either?
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:53 PM
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Re: Sad.

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Some of you don't know who Shadow Knight is but I recently had a very terrible conversation with him and he tells me that he is going to commit suicide. I would like you all to pray for him and hope he is just lying. From what he told me his life wasn't too good I tried to talk him out of it but he seems to not listen.

Please pray
most people attempt suicide to get people to notice them, i take it he needs attention... so erm....give him some
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:54 PM
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Let me clarify. I don't believe that suicide is logical. But then I don't believe that not committing suicide is logical. Neither is better than the other: humans aren't capable of pure logic. I'm not and you're not and I very much doubt anybody is. But if one approach is illogical, and the other is equally so, then why steer a person towards either?
huh? =P
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huh? =P
Am I expected to form a response to this?
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Old 08-30-2001, 10:02 PM
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his doing a Twiztid!

I hope Shadow Knight read this message im about to write!




Dear Shadow Knight,

When you die please die really cool, like blow yourself up, or over dosing on drugs.... Hmmmm....
if you dont kill yourself than you are a weak person, and you gotta think about it cause if you dont kill yourself you gotta live your life in this shitty world

Anyway all i have to say is DIE PIG SCUM!
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Then kill yourself you ****er.
No one likes you go away, you are making someone commit suicide, RIGHT ON!
****ing ***got.
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