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Old 08-30-2001, 08:30 PM
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But they are not trying to hurt themselves.
Irrelevent. If they want to do something then who am I to get in the way? To exert power other another's life would be playing God.
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:31 PM
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You're contradicting yourself, You don't believe in god so therefore you can't play god because he doesn't exist.
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:32 PM
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First of all the Croc Hunter is a **** head, he has the accent of a Australian and a American... His married to a Dog looking ***** who is American so he got his *** ass accent from her...
and we dont say "G'day mate how r ya today! oh golly a dingo just ran off with our baby, quick call skippy we gotta go after it!"

We talk just like you guys except we dont sound like we have a cork up our asses
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:34 PM
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This is sad, how this post got off topic like this

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Old 08-30-2001, 08:34 PM
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he wants to do it...then he can, nobody can stop him..
maybe his dad or mom...but not a internet stranger...
like i would listen to some strangers from the internet who sending fake pics of themselves coz there real face is too ugly to show...

I dont know him, and i dont wanne know him, people who wants to kill themselves are pathetic...find a job then!
dont act pathetic coz you are on the computer the whole day, its your own fault that you dont have friends...not ours..

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Well, as much as i'd like to stay and finish bashing australia, I have to go to cross country practice, because I do other things besides play graal. Good luck to Shadrock convincing SK to not commit suicide and I hope australia gets nuked while I'm away.
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:35 PM
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Kaimetsu, I said nothing religious. Don't marginalize me like that.
Was I responding to you? I didn't think so, but I can't remember.

[quote][b]What is untrue about suicide being a permanent solution to a temporary problem?

Nothing. I didn't dispute that part.

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If I had a right to kill myself just because I thought my life wasn't worth it, you wouldn't know who I am, because I would have killed myself any time I had a bout of manic-depression.
Okay, that might be true.

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Suicide is against the law, and you cannot argue that that isn't true. But if you have no respect for the fact that suicide is selfish, than what can I say to convince?
Perhaps even the slightest reasoning for why it is selfish?

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Keep in mind I've said nothing religious. Also, let me point out that funeral costs are an expensive burden to place on your loved ones. Also let me point out that psychological help can be very expensive and those with suicides in the family are much more likely than other people to need long term counseling. Also let me point out that suicide invalidates life insurance. It can also cause a loss of property due to less lenient death taxes.
Okay, those are fair points. Is it then okay if the person works for a few weeks to raise all the cash, and then kills themselves?

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There are plenty of completely logical reasons why suicide is simply selfish. There are plenty of considerations of emotional and compassionate needs that make suicide selfish. And if all that is negated just because anybody thinks they have a right to kill themselves, than pardon my ill logic!
"Thinks"? A person has a right to do whatever they want with their life. That's a fundamental principle to life. Sure, it might cause heartache to their families, but to stay would cause heartbreak to the suicidee too. If a person would suffer more pain by living than he would cause to others by dying, then how is it selfish?
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You're contradicting yourself, You don't believe in god so therefore you can't play god because he doesn't exist.
To play God is to play a role. I could play Romeo in a play, but I don't think Romeo exists.
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To play God is to play a role. I could play Romeo in a play, but I don't think Romeo exists.
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Well, as much as i'd like to stay and finish bashing australia, I have to go my dad wants me in his room for a early morning ****, because I do love him when he ****s me up the ass. Good luck to Shadrock telling SK to commit suicide and I hope my dad blows all over my face.
you are a very sick boy, you need treatment
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:42 PM
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this sucks, let the man suicide if he wants to..its his choise so let him do it...
thats option 1
option 2:

Go find friends and get good marks at school, go out sometime and have fun...quit graal and buy some new clothes. After all this you'll feel much better!

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To play God is to play a role. I could play Romeo in a play, but I don't think Romeo exists.
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You must play a role now - nobody could think so!!!
What a curiously eloquent statement. But why does it trouble you that I think this way?
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:54 PM
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cause I can't understand you. there is somebody who say he is going to commit suicide and you say Ok then die!?!?
He say it cause he need help, talking to him can helping too.



I will ask you again: Would you think so too if your best friend say something like this?
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:57 PM
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cause I can't understand you. there is somebody who say he is going to commit suicide and you say Ok then die!?!?
He say it cause he need help, talking to him can helping too.

Why would he need help? Suicide isn't such a difficult thing to achieve. You're all missing one thing: He wants to die. You may think it's a bad idea, but you're not living his life. Let him decide for himself.
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:59 PM
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cause I can't understand you. there is somebody who say he is going to commit suicide and you say Ok then die!?!?
He say it cause he need help, talking to him can helping too.



I will ask you again: Would you think so too if your best friend say something like this?
If my best friend said he was going to commit suicide i would smack him out, then i would bring him to a shrink so he would get help
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