Graal PC Roll Call

[Joshua_P2P]

So I've been gone a few years now but i guess I'm just curious who's still around these days on Graal PC?

[maximus_asinus]

most of the active players don't visit the forums

[fowlplay4]

you'll never be accepted as an og pc player like us so just stop

[Joshua_P2P]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

you'll never be accepted as an og pc player like us so just stop

it was more of a question of if people like BlueMelon, Chris Vimes, Tim Rocks, Scoper, Moondeath, Emera, among many other are still around but okay? Thanks for that response <3

[Urahara112]

Originally Posted by Joshua_P2P

it was more of a question of if people like BlueMelon, Chris Vimes, Tim Rocks, Scoper, Moondeath, Emera, among many other are still around but okay? Thanks for that response <3

but those are new players on Era, noobs!

[gravator]

I'm still visiting every day to keep an eye on bomy Island progress.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by gravator

I'm still visiting every day to keep an eye on bomy Island progress.

Sorry I haven't added updates lately but there have been several updates recently including new apple trees. I work a lot and have focused all my free time to working on the server but I also recently got a Nintendo Switch which is distracting me a little.

[fowlplay4]

buying a switch in 2017 LUL

[Crow]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

buying a switch in 2017 LUL

Worth.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

buying a switch in 2017 LUL

Waiting until 2018 to play Zelda, Splatoon 2, Arms and Mario Odyssey seems way dumber. PS4 has been out for like 6 years and still doesn't have as much must-play content as Switch has at launch window.

Switch is here and it's addictive. It gives you way more freedom to comfortably play games in situations you could not before. You won't understand why people are freaking out about it until you get one. I heard gamestop accepts PS4 or Xbox One trade-ins so you have no excuse.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

I heard gamestop accepts PS4 or Xbox One trade-ins so you have no excuse.

You better not do that crap. Embrace everything. I regularly play on PC, Switch, PS4 and 3DS.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Joshua_P2P

it was more of a question of if people like BlueMelon, Chris Vimes, Tim Rocks, Scoper, Moondeath, Emera, among many other are still around but okay? Thanks for that response <3

I mostly lurk the forums nowadays.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by Crow

You better not do that crap. Embrace everything. I regularly play on PC, Switch, PS4 and 3DS.

What is there to play on PS4? Grand Theft Auto V is getting pretty stale even with these 4K 60fps graphics running on my 2 Nvidia GTX 980Ti gpus in SLI, so I imagine it's even worse with 30fps 720p graphics on console. I love PC hardware but have you looked at the Steam shop anytime in the past year? It's nothing but anime dating sims now. PC has PS4 and Xbox beat but only barely, I mean there are very few must-play PC games made in this decade and when there were, they never sold well. The "PC master-race" people are hilarious to me.

Switch on the other hand is addictive. It will give you that childlike sense of amazement you got from your first console. Get with these times my dudes.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

What is there to play on PS4? Grand Theft Auto V is getting pretty stale even with these 4K 60fps graphics running on my 2 Nvidia GTX 980Ti gpus in SLI, so I imagine it's even worse with 30fps 720p graphics on console. I love PC hardware but have you looked at the Steam shop anytime in the past year? It's nothing but anime dating sims now. PC has PS4 and Xbox beat but only barely, I mean there are very few must-play PC games made in this decade and when there were, they never sold well. The "PC master-race" people are hilarious to me.

Switch on the other hand is addictive. It will give you that childlike sense of amazement you got from your first console. Get with these times my dudes.

Bloodborne, Horizon: Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank, Bloodborne, the upcoming God of War.. just to name a few. Also, let's not forget about Bloodborne.

[Kamaeru]

Look man, I've checked those games out before when they released. I didn't think they were very good. I also played most of the previous God of War games and thought they were quite vapid compared to a quality beat-em-up like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry. Too many quick-time cutscene battles. I just wasn't having fun.

Someone has to be out here fighting for Nintendo. I want video games to be awesome. I know that I can only rely on one company to do what needs to be done, and I see an army of shills approaching to tell everyone about how Nintenyearolds only play kiddy Nintentrash. You know what I'm talking about. If you talk about video games anywhere, there is some ***** who thinks Nintendo is going the way of the dinosaur and just has to tell you about it. So I am the antithesis of that, okay? I know for a fact that Nintendo is gonna destroy the competition from now until the year 2030, and I also know that the media is gonna hate them for the fact that they won't give them any sponsorship money like Sony and MS did. It's not gonna work anymore though because people are going to places like Youtube for opinions and reviews, and on Youtube the competitive market means that whoever is most objective and on-point naturally is popular. So get rekt honestly, I don't feel bad for any of you Nintendo-haters, I really really don't.

btw you listed bloodborne twice. that is beyond hilarious.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

Look man, I've checked those games out before when they released. I didn't think they were very good. I also played most of the previous God of War games and thought they were quite vapid compared to a quality beat-em-up like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry. Too many quick-time cutscene battles. I just wasn't having fun.

Someone has to be out here fighting for Nintendo. I want video games to be awesome. I know that I can only rely on one company to do what needs to be done, and I see an army of shills approaching to tell everyone about how Nintenyearolds only play kiddy Nintentrash. You know what I'm talking about. If you talk about video games anywhere, there is some ***** who thinks Nintendo is going the way of the dinosaur and just has to tell you about it. So I am the antithesis of that, okay? I know for a fact that Nintendo is gonna destroy the competition from now until the year 2030, and I also know that the media is gonna hate them for the fact that they won't give them any sponsorship money like Sony and MS did. It's not gonna work anymore though because people are going to places like Youtube for opinions and reviews, and on Youtube the competitive market means that whoever is most objective and on-point naturally is popular. So get rekt honestly, I don't feel bad for any of you Nintendo-haters, I really really don't.

Whoever claims that Nintendo is dying or makes bad games or only makes games aimed at kids has no idea anyway, so I'll likely stop talking to them sooner rather than later. But Nintendo won't be destroying any competition, mostly because they are not directly competing with Sony and Microsoft anymore. They've moved into a sort of niche that is still big enough for Nintendo to be incredibly successful and popular. Certainly not a development I mind much.

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

btw you listed bloodborne twice. that is beyond hilarious.

Three times, actually. It is just that good <3

[kia345]

wow it's another nintendo fanboy thread somehow

Originally Posted by Joshua_P2P

Chris Vimes

There's a guy who goes by ckbd19 in a wrestling stream chat I see every week, and every time I see him say something I doubletake because I read it as cbk1994

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by kia345

wow it's another nintendo fanboy thread somehow

You've got people listing bloodborne twice and yet I'm the fanboy. Get a fresher insult pls.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by Crow

Nintendo won't be destroying any competition, mostly because they are not directly competing with Sony and Microsoft anymore.

If Nintendo isn't competing with Sony, care to explain this?



Looks to me like Sony literally copies every single thing Nintendo does because they are the market leader.

Sony is going to try to compete on Nintendo's terms and fail, period. Microsoft is gonna keep doing what they're doing because they're retarded, but Sony is going to go out of business my dudes.

[Crow]

You need to look at the games, not the hardware.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

You've got people listing bloodborne twice and yet I'm the fanboy. Get a fresher insult pls.

bloodborne is from soft's worst game but it's still more interesting than breath of the wild

actually every part of that is a lie but the sentiment is sincere

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

Looks to me like Sony literally copies every single thing Nintendo does because they are the market leader.

Looks like it's just a continuation of Sony's Remote Play.


Which I guess you could argue was a copy of Nintendo's objective failure, the Wii U. But that require claiming Sony intentionally copied a flop, and also that Nintendo is the only company to ever consider handheld gaming and that any handheld game console is just a rip off, because I don't know about you but whenever I look at an NGage I am revolted by how similar to the Game Boy it is

But really handheld gaming is in by way of how mobile gaming is in and touch screens for gaming is out and Nintendo isn't leading any of those marches by any means.





and everything is a rip off of the dreamcast

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by kia345

actually every part of that is a lie

das right

i don't believe i need to remind you this, but the entire touch screen thing was started by nintendo. before nintendo DS, touch screens were considered basically a joke in the tech world, it was like this gimmicky thing that nobody thought was really that useful. do you really forget all about palm pilot?

the way that nintendo DS used the touch screen was easily the most iconically disruptive move in the history of electronic tech period and has influenced EVERY aspect of our lives. nintendo does officially get credit for this disruption in tech. it's not about who invents it, or who does it first. it's about who popularizes an innovative product using it.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

das right

i don't believe i need to remind you this, but the entire touch screen thing was started by nintendo. before nintendo DS, touch screens were considered basically a joke in the tech world, it was like this gimmicky thing that nobody thought was really that useful. do you really forget all about palm pilot?

the way that nintendo DS used the touch screen was easily the most iconically disruptive move in the history of electronic tech period and has influenced EVERY aspect of our lives. nintendo does officially get credit for this disruption in tech. it's not about who invents it, or who does it first. it's about who popularizes an innovative product using it.

Uh, the iPhone popularized that in the tech world.

[BlueMelon]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I mostly lurk the forums nowadays.

lurking once a month

vote tim era manager 2017

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by Crono

Uh, the iPhone popularized that in the tech world.

No it didn't, it was appropriated from Nintendo DS. If DS had not done it, all the tech firms would have surely not rushed to use it. I'm not even sure how you seem to think this is debatable. DS came out years before iphone (in this case you are actually referring to the ipod touch). Many journalists rushed to call this "the end of Nintendo handheld dominance"

Here is a very well written article that documents the entire DS 2004 reveal and the press coverage it got from sites like IGN which did a panel asking all of their journalists what they think of DS, and ALL but one of them said the DS would be a massive failure because of the touch screen and that PSP would take over the handheld market:

https://pietriots.com/2014/02/02/200...ndo-is-doomed/

“DS may run out of steam after Christmas.”

This was one thing they got right, because DS did run out of steam after Christmas, 2012.

Good job, but it's the streisand effect. These good games can't be suppressed. The more they hate on Nintendo, the more people are driven to take an objective look and what they will find will rock the boat.

http://nintendoeverything.com/july-2...#disqus_thread

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

No it didn't, it was appropriated from Nintendo DS. If DS had not done it, all the tech firms would have surely not rushed to use it. I'm not even sure how you seem to think this is debatable. DS came out years before iphone (in this case you are actually referring to the ipod touch). Many journalists rushed to call this "the end of Nintendo handheld dominance"

Here is a very well written article that documents the entire DS 2004 reveal and the press coverage it got from sites like IGN which did a panel asking all of their journalists what they think of DS, and ALL but one of them said the DS would be a massive failure because of the touch screen and that PSP would take over the handheld market:

https://pietriots.com/2014/02/02/200...ndo-is-doomed/

You're delusional if you think it was the DS and not the iPhone that revolutionized the touch screen's place in the tech industry.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Crono

You're delusional if you think it was the DS and not the iPhone that revolutionized the touch screen's place in the tech industry.

I second this.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by Crono

You're delusional if you think it was the DS and not the iPhone that revolutionized the touch screen's place in the tech industry.

I'm still pretty sure you mean to say Ipod touch, which clearly used a touch screen after ds did it.

[kia345]

the original ds was a joke to everyone over seven and not in the koolaid line though

and touch screen palm pilots existed - and were popular - long before the ds was even considered

the only thing nintendo influenced with its touch screen were later ds models

[Kamaeru]

I'm not intellectually charitable enough to continue this retarded debate. I was debating you guys because of the shred of credibility I have for you, but if this continues onward in this irrational fashion I would lose all respect for your intelligence, which I don't wish for that to happen.

[Urahara112]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

I'm not intellectually charitable enough to continue this retarded debate. I was debating you guys because of the shred of credibility I have for you, but if this continues onward in this irrational fashion I would lose all respect for your intelligence, which I don't wish for that to happen.

I think you need to grab your blanky and bottle of milk and take a nap.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

I'm not intellectually charitable enough to continue this retarded debate. I was debating you guys because of the shred of credibility I have for you, but if this continues onward in this irrational fashion I would lose all respect for your intelligence, which I don't wish for that to happen.

Are you honestly not seeing how Nintendo's usage of a resistive touchscreen on the Nintendo DS (next to eight buttons and a d-pad) had essentially nothing to do with Apple's push towards a phone design using only a capacitive touchscreen and one button? Am I overlooking all the phones featuring resistive touchscreens with pens or something?

[maximus_asinus]

You guys are forgetting about the OG handheld with touch screen, the game.com released by Tiger Electronics in 1997. It heavily influenced the design of the DS with it's multi button input, touch screen with stylus support, two cartridge slots, and online functionality.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

You guys are forgetting about the OG handheld with touch screen, the game.com released by Tiger Electronics in 1997. It heavily influenced the design of the DS with it's multi button input, touch screen with stylus support, two cartridge slots, and online functionality.

I actually played Duke Nukem on game.com back when it came out in the 90's.

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by Urahara112

I think you need to grab your blanky and bottle of milk and take a nap.

Once again I believe you're referring to the iPod Touch.

[ZanderX]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

nintendo does officially get credit for this disruption in tech. it's not about who invents it, or who does it first. it's about who popularizes an innovative product using it.

you are the only human being on this entire planet post-2007 that actually believes this, my dude. i give you a lot of credit for carrying the Nintendo Torch (someone has to) and i think a lot of the people in this thread give you an unnecessary amount of crap for it and also don't give Nintendo enough credit on a lot of stuff, but there is not a single tech historian on the face of planet earth who will tell you that the DS disrupted technology more than the iPhone.

don't be goofy

[Kamaeru]

Originally Posted by ZanderX

there is not a single tech historian on the face of planet earth who will tell you that the DS disrupted technology more than the iPhone.

phew, good thing that's not at all remotely like the thing that i said

i clearly stated that the DS did it first and is responsible for being the first successful entertainment device with a touch screen leading to it becoming mainstream tech

it's obviously true

i can even go further with this. did you know that smartphones currently use ARM processors? the history of ARM processors goes all the way back to the Game Boy and the Super FX chips used in games such as Star Fox on SNES which were co-developed and funded by Nintendo with a company called Argonaut.

Current iPhones use the Apple A9 64-bit 1.85 GHz ARMv8-A dual-core CPU called Twister. This means the current iphone tech is literally using a beefed up version of the hardware used in Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, and DS that was originally pioneered by Nintendo.

smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech. prove me wrong. pro-tip: you can't

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

i clearly stated that the DS did it first and is responsible for being the first successful entertainment device with a touch screen leading to it becoming mainstream tech

But they weren't, touch devices were already commonplace. Nintendo is just the first who successfully made one that said Nintendo on it. These things still existed and were still capable of simple games, and Nintendo just did a better version of that, and then other people did better versions of that, and then other people did better versions of that. If Nintendo wasn't the first, and it wasn't the best, and it wasn't the last, why arbitrarily create a finish line for them? "They're the first that did it for entertainment that got famous enough for me to decide it's one that matters".

Nintendo consoles, especially handhelds, don't sell great because they're revolutionary pieces of hardware anymore than GI Joes didn't sell in the 80s because they were revolutionary toys. They sold because they were targeted at kids and were affordable toys. That is why the DS and the Wii made money. Not because they were "ground breaking", because they weren't. The ground that the DS "broke" had already long since broken, even in the mainstream, even in terms of games (albeit simple ones), and the ground that the Wii broke was immediately filled back in because they were digging in the wrong place.

i can even go further with this. did you know that smartphones currently use ARM processors? the history of ARM processors goes all the way back to the Game Boy and the Super FX chips used in games such as Star Fox on SNES which were co-developed and funded by Nintendo with a company called Argonaut.

Nintendo is truly revolutionary in ****ing over Argonaut. The company that created the backbone that would serve Nintendo's second wind of games like Ocarina and Mario 64, tossed aside and given no recognition while Nintendo fanboys line up to celebrate.

[Ryyan]

I'm here for the roll call, I check in once in a while to see what's new overall. I'm usually on GK (as little as I am on), so if you see me online give me a shout.

Sorry for infringing on your Nintendo debate. Please continue since the Argonaut thing is news to me, and I find it quite interesting.

[ZanderX]

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

phew, good thing that's not at all remotely like the thing that i said

if you say so dude

Originally Posted by Kamaeru

i clearly stated that the DS did it first and is responsible for being the first successful entertainment device with a touch screen leading to it becoming mainstream tech

it's obviously true

once again, the lynchpin of your argument here is the implication that if the DS hadn't been successful then Apple would have never used a capacitive glass touch display in the iPhone. which again i and the vast majority of everyone ever would disagree with, but you do, and you are entitled to your opinion just as i am to mine and i guess.

[quote=Kamaerui can even go further with this. did you know that smartphones currently use ARM processors? the history of ARM processors goes all the way back to the Game Boy and the Super FX chips used in games such as Star Fox on SNES which were co-developed and funded by Nintendo with a company called Argonaut.

Current iPhones use the Apple A9 64-bit 1.85 GHz ARMv8-A dual-core CPU called Twister. This means the current iphone tech is literally using a beefed up version of the hardware used in Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, and DS that was originally pioneered by Nintendo.

smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech. prove me wrong. pro-tip: you can't[/QUOTE]

because the gameboy had accelerometers, gyroscopes, cellular radios and wifi, a built in GPU, fingerprint scanners, capacitive touchscreen, cameras, force feedback...

this is some hilariously bad faith arguing though, and so incredibly condescending. did you go to wikipedia to look up the full spec sheet on the A9?

"smartphones are literally just a phone using nintendo game boy tech" is the sort of argument people make on the playground in middle school or on gamefaqs, my man. support your argument by more than just citing a processor.

just to prove to you how absurd sounding your suggestion is: because the Wii used a PowerPC-based processor, it's Literally just a console using Apple/IBM/Motorola tech


god, this is tiring. you are tiring.