Zodiac - A Foreshadow of Maloria

[Crono]

Zodiac is self-sufficient for the most part, as are most MMORPG systems. The only problem is when garbage is added and not reverted (remember how many people quit after Ryu's FL?)

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by Crono

Zodiac is self-sufficient for the most part, as are most MMORPG systems. The only problem is when garbage is added and not reverted (remember how many people quit after Ryu's FL?)

Yup. It destroyed the server. Right now what's destroying the server are a lot of the old players. They're trying to dictate how people should enjoy the game. If someone doesn't like you, they "OSL" you. Endlessly PKing you until you decide to quit or log off. Which is a passive aggressive way of bullying someone into doing what you want them to do. "Either sell me this item or I'll OSL you Noob." This kind of behavior is why Zodiac is currently in shambles. No new person wants to log in, see that and continue to be there under the pretense that players are just generally toxic and selfish, doing things for their own benefit. We even have players who have USD or in this case RMT (Real Money Trading) and nothing has been done about it over the past 3-5 months. The ends never justify the means in Zodiac. I am simply asking for a Global to login for just a week, see how the playerbase is and then give a good judgement from there. In my opinion, either the server is reset or deleted. No need for a server if it's not going to be developed. PC Graal as we know it is in ruins and one more server for the chopping block won't phase it at all.

So it's high time either Zodiac is shut down and it's mobile iVersion comes out or globals actually step in, reset the server and cut off all the cancerous lumps of toxic players. There has also been wait too much bias in staff hirings, as we have a few staff who do literally NOTHING. They don't even talk to players and or help them, yet they have full staff rights. These players need to be removed from staff, Zodiac honestly also needs new management. Jerett or Fowlplay4 only shows up like once every 2-3 months. He doesn't answer player questions and only caters to a few individuals who know his personally.

Let's take a look at old servers that died off.
1. Zone
2. N-Pulse
3. Delteria (Came back.)
4. Atlantis
5. Old West
6. Maloria (Where I am from)

A lot of these servers should've been given over to new management. Maloria made me sad, since it was such a good server and I loved it. There was so much RPG elements in that server I didn't think it'd ever go down. If Maloria were to come back one day I'd drop Zodiac in a heartbeat. I miss my Spirit Mace. But sadly, the server was left in the hands of I believe Joshua Xanadu and Smirt. The server ended up going into ruin, when so many players loved it.

@Elk - If you can't contribute to the topic, delete your post and leave the thread. You're one of the main reasons why Zodiac is like a dying cancer patient right now. Nobody should have to pay you, if you don't want to work on Zodiac, relinquish your staff rights and quit and go work on the mobile device servers.

I can also give a full on list of account names who should be banned but are not. All for the reasons below.

Severe Player Harassment
Sexual Harassment
Verbal/Racial Slurs.

Did I forget to mention the N word is a common insult on the server now.

[Elk]

i do very much enjoy working on levels, graphics and overall everything on graal, i enjoyed it the past 13 years, but at some point in life you cant just work for free anymore when you know someone is majorly profitting off you without you getting anything in return aside from grattitude, you cant live off it

i very much agree that its the current players that prevent the server from growth, i would have made updates that would have had them gone, but gaining a fresh playerbase

and no, zodiac is not a dying cancer patient because of me


i cant think of anyone being cappable of taking over management of the server with the effect of flourishing


there is no need for me to relinquish my rights as it bears no harm

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by Elk

i do very much enjoy working on levels, graphics and overall everything on graal, i enjoyed it the past 13 years, but at some point in life you cant just work for free anymore when you know someone is majorly profitting off you without you getting anything in return aside from grattitude, you cant live off it

i very much agree that its the current players that prevent the server from growth, i would have made updates that would have had them gone, but gaining a fresh playerbase

and no, zodiac is not a dying cancer patient because of me


i cant think of anyone being cappable of taking over management of the server with the effect of flourishing


there is no need for me to relinquish my rights as it bears no harm

My question to you is this, what exactly have you been doing the last 2-3 months. I see you sitting in the corner of OSL idling all the time. You seriously can't tell me you've been working on the server. I also have a fresh list of players who need or should be removed from the server entirely, without the need of a full reset.

A lot of the players Elk have gone rogue from gaining gear and every day it's someone **** talking someone else and it just has to stop or Zodiac isn't going to get any better. I've been asking for quite awhile now to actually be hired as a GP and I even did an application. But Raven refused to hire me due to personal bias and I quote. "That account has been passed around more than a New York hooker." Symmasolan, after talking to Raven613 about hiring me as a GP. Those were the words he told me that Raven said to him. So because I move around a lot and my PC/IP Changes, doesn't mean I'm not the account holder. I've used this account for the past 10 years I've been on Graal as a whole.

People need to stop being so secluded from the community (staff) and need to start giving chances. The closest thing I had to staff position was ET and even then people enjoyed it when I hosted simply because I actually listened to the players. Which is what they need, they need someone to make their voices heard. Now mind you, a lot of those voices are negative, but they can be sifted through. There are a lot of good players who enjoy the server but there are others who purposely go out of their way to make people's lives miserable while they play.

There are people on Zodiac who go "Stop being such a baby over a game." Yet they're the first ones to flip out after you kill them. The logic is completely backwards. These are also the same players who will get their friends to harass you and just make your experience on Zodiac very miserable, since that is their goal. How would you like it if every day you left work, three or four thugs just beat you up. Just because they could do it? That's how it is on Zodiac. The fact that the entire Gmap is a PK Area is ridiculous, there are players who don't enjoy PKing and enjoy being outside with their friends. But that's here nor there. The point I am trying to make Elk is that the majority of the higher end players with the good gear. Are the most toxic, they berate, belittle, bully and verbally abuse players weaker than they are and it simply has to stop if anything the GP's don't do their job and when you sit there and say it to them, they can't handle it or make it a personal issue.

I understand the work is counted as "free" but if Zodiac gives scripters/editors a chance to improve their work in a gaming environment, then they should be happy. It's better than going into a field of that same work, scripting and your boss goes, "What the **** is this?" At least Graal gives you enough leeway to script and if it helps a community game. Even better.

tl;dr - Too bad. Read it. Not writing one.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

My question to you is this, what exactly have you been doing the last 2-3 months. I see you sitting in the corner of OSL idling all the time.

im not even online most of the time, only at critical times

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by Elk

im not even online most of the time, only at critical times

That still doesn't answer my question. What exactly have you and Ketsomaru been doing as of late? I don't even know what you do. Most of the time it's Ketsomaru who is putting in the work to do class balancing. You're kind of back there, twiddling your thumbs. You're a developer, but what exactly do you work on in your spare time?

[Elk]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

That still doesn't answer my question. What exactly have you and Ketsomaru been doing as of late? I don't even know what you do. Most of the time it's Ketsomaru who is putting in the work to do class balancing. You're kind of back there, twiddling your thumbs. You're a developer, but what exactly do you work on in your spare time?

You're not even aware why it is and was a mess before as far as class balancing goes

If many people play around with class balancing, it obviously gets messy

Classes never were my responsability, I created content, and please dont make me list the things I made the past 10 years on Zodiac, its too much

Of course you dont know what to do, thats why you make a thread out of desperation trying to get things rolling, but thats not easy for adults

In my spare time, I do things that are fun. Making high quality AAA game assets for free isnt fun. In the past 1-3 years I just happened to have time occasionally to do things on graal, only ever when I felt like doing so, its not my duty.

Thats why I said I would need to be paid to do such things


Of course I would know how to get things on a way better course than it's going right now, but as I said before, when lots of ideas collide, it takes so much more time for evaluation

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Xenoith

But sadly, the server was left in the hands of I believe Joshua Xanadu and Smirt. The server ended up going into ruin, when so many players loved it.

Josh and Nate, to be fair. I also hijacked it from them and have been running it on and off since late '07. I got it back to the Classic list in '11 in case you missed it, but during my very unfortunately timed 1 month exam break right after we re-released, it fell apart because none of the staff were capable of keeping it floating and globals took it back down to under construction.

Since then I haven't invested as much time until lately, but Maloria is still being actively developed. Unfortunately, we're just a 2 man team at the moment though, but you're more than welcome to logon and take a peek whenever you'd like!

Sorry for thread hijack

[Xenoith]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Josh and Nate, to be fair. I also hijacked it from them and have been running it on and off since late '07. I got it back to the Classic list in '11 in case you missed it, but during my very unfortunately timed 1 month exam break right after we re-released, it fell apart because none of the staff were capable of keeping it floating and globals took it back down to under construction.

Since then I haven't invested as much time until lately, but Maloria is still being actively developed. Unfortunately, we're just a 2 man team at the moment though, but you're more than welcome to logon and take a peek whenever you'd like!

Sorry for thread hijack

Wait! It's back in development?! That's so exciting to hear! If you need help finding more staff, please let me know!