a not very important announcement

[paintballdude956]

Hi all,
This is probably a bit vain to have a forum thread about it, but I wanted to make a quick one just to announce my resignation so people who don't log on much also know.
It's been a long time coming. While I had a lot of fun being on the time, I felt like it was time to move on both for personal reasons and reasons on Graal.
I know I always didn't hit the mark on my stuff (Christmas was a bit of a mess, eh?), but I honestly gave it my best effort.
*****END ANNOUNCEMENT, BEGIN RANT**********

I just wanted to give a big shoutout to a lot of the great staff I've been lucky enough to work with.
Exolia, thanks for letting me do my thing with the devs. It was great working with you
Amsel, you're a cutie
Ice, thanks for scripting stuff when I had no idea what to do
Rogue, thanks for being a great family cat
Swift, you're a crazy kid. Thanks for being the ying to my yang. We made a good team.
Fuubaz, you make the best graphics I've ever seen on Graal
Mesh, you seriously go above and beyond your job
Namey, I'm so glad you came back <3 you make great levels and are just a swell guy
to my devs current and past, thanks for the hard work and for putting up with me.

To all the players, a shout-out and a condemnation.
Thanks for playing. Seriously. It's 2015 and I can go onto steam and buy fantastic games for like a buck or two. It's wonderful that people still play Graal in a time like this. By you guys playing, you're allowing a volunteer team of developers to work on games in a unique environment. It's a lot of fun to make new stuff. When I was hired as Gun Admin, I knew 0 about anything development related. Now I know the basics. Thanks for that.

On the other hand, I see so much hostility on the forums and in game towards staff. You all fail to realize that every level 4 admin on Era is 22+, has a job and/or goes to school. They do this in their free time for absolutely no compensation. In fact, all the staff on here do it on their free time (they get compensated with like 1 EC per 4 hours of work... that's it)

When you spew hatred at us day after day after day, are you really surprised when we quit? When we ask ourselves "why are we spending hours and hours on stuff that is not even appreciated by the ~200 people in the entire world who will actually see it?"

And what's far worse than any of that? When certain individuals side-line coach and say "why isn't it like XYZ? If I were X admin, I could do so much better." You don't know the half of it. Not only the immense work that goes in, but the amount of trust and responsibility required for these positions.
I once explained it as a certain paradox- the people you want to be high staff on graal cannot put forth the time to be high staff, and the people who want/ have the time to be high staff are not fit for the position.

The average level 4 admin is: 20+, working full time, smart (often a computer scientist or at least has a background in it), responsible. In short, we're adults. We don't have a ton of time.
Who has a ton of time? Kids or the unemployed/ people not in school. Do we want those kinds of people running Graal? Probably not, to be honest. Granted, Rick was super young when he was manager, but I think that's more of an exception than the rule.
In short, it's very hard to assemble a good team. When Exolia consulted me on who I thought would be a good gang admin, I honestly could not think of a single person whom I both trusted and thought would be a good fit. That's unfortunate, but true.

So, sorry for the rant. I'm only speaking for myself here and not the rest of the team. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Love,
Ish Soul

[shrimps]

I will miss you Ish.
Thanks for Whitney hat on your way out. <3
I was trying to get that hat for years.

[Tim_Rocks]

Thanks for all the time and effort you put in the game.

[Logababy]

Appreciate anyone who puts the time and effort in to my childhood game, thank you.

Good luck with whatever you're doing

[MysticalDragon]

Good luck for the future that awaits.

[Sinkler]

Best of luck. Keep in contact.

[ToreG]

Didn't really know you that well, but the server won't be the same without you.

Good luck on future endeavors.

[Kohola_KinG]

Sorry to see you go Ish. Yes you weren't perfect but nobody can fault your efforts. You were one of the few staff members that actually attempted to give back to the players and sadly now you're gone.

In short, it's very hard to assemble a good team. When Exolia consulted me on who I thought would be a good gang admin, I honestly could not think of a single person whom I both trusted and thought would be a good fit. That's unfortunate, but true.

However, i feel i must step in and put something right here. I've played this game since 03 and the only reason i ever played this game was because of gangs. I enjoyed raiding and participating in anything gang related. A lot of people would tend to look at me and say ohno koho but in truth it's not really fair. I can provide some of my accounts and including the current one i use my comments are not even as bad as half of you guys that are currently hired.

I have been in a lot of heated debates on forums and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice it comes down to one reason because i truly cared. I've been in a lot of staff positions in the past and i have never did anything wrong i am even still a PR to this day so trust wouldn't be an issue. I am also 22 and 23 soon with REAL responsibility due to military life. It amazes me how much responsibility and maturity you guys say it takes to be staff on a game but half of you guys know nothing of the meaning (not bashing) but it amazes me that you think like this.

I dunno what it has to take for me to become gang admin. I have built a forum that got so much done for era, I've pushed out a lot of new stuff for players i even went to the lengths of sacrificing my own fun by not taking part in gang events to host them for months on end when i was the ETA. I mean, i dunno what it has to take. Nick who is only a kid with a lot worse history and background than me gets selected and apparently my "application" was the most liked. Makes no sense.

I'm not going to blabber on about this subject but im sick to the teeth of being over looked when i am one of the few people left who truly care about this game and gangs. Certain person told me i was next on the list to get hired but yet i still sit here as a PR and not GA. I dont take GA as a gift, i feel its being treated in that way lately. Tags and rights aren't gifts... It's giving people what they need to get the job done and sadly era is dying and something needs to change before it's to late.

I'm getting fed up waiting for the chance. I have solid plans and motivation to change the gangs and if a new gang admin isn't sorted out soon to fix these gangs then I'll be moving on to. Also Ish it wasn't long ago you told me part of the reason you where leaving was due to the lack of nobody wanting to hire a gang admin. I don't make sense of you saying that.

Sorry for the rant. Long story short. Ish, who cared is leaving which sucks and I'm a mature adult with motivation and a desire to change gangs but keep being over looked to youngsters like Nick with horrible history and cant say one sentence without a troll word being said in it. Sadly im losing patience and i'll follow suit if change doesn't happen every soon.

Koho out.

[WillaWonka]

Bye Felisha!!!11!!

[BlueMelon]

gj ish take care

[SharkeySprinkles]

Love you Ish, and I'm very sad to see you go. I understand your reasons, however if it were up to me I would force you to be here as long as I am, because we work so well together.

Also, if you people didn't read what he wrote up above, I suggest you read it again, because this hits the nail on the head:

Originally Posted by paintballdude956

On the other hand, I see so much hostility on the forums and in game towards staff. You all fail to realize that every level 4 admin on Era is 22+, has a job and/or goes to school. They do this in their free time for absolutely no compensation. In fact, all the staff on here do it on their free time (they get compensated with like 1 EC per 4 hours of work... that's it)

When you spew hatred at us day after day after day, are you really surprised when we quit? When we ask ourselves "why are we spending hours and hours on stuff that is not even appreciated by the ~200 people in the entire world who will actually see it?"

And what's far worse than any of that? When certain individuals side-line coach and say "why isn't it like XYZ? If I were X admin, I could do so much better." You don't know the half of it. Not only the immense work that goes in, but the amount of trust and responsibility required for these positions.
I once explained it as a certain paradox- the people you want to be high staff on graal cannot put forth the time to be high staff, and the people who want/ have the time to be high staff are not fit for the position.

Just to put it into perspective; I am 26. I went to college for Computer Engineering. I currently work 50-60 hour weeks managing a very busy restaurant, as well as try to maintain a social life. I can't always be on Era, and I do my best to maintain a staff that can be trusted in my absence.

Sorry that you all think we do a horrible job, but I don't think I'm doing half bad if you continue playing all while complaining (you are playing after all, aren't you?) Seriously though, have some compassion and think before you blast us on the forums or scream at us in game, I don't get paid for this.

[BlueMelon]

Engineering -- what is a social life

[shrimps]

Hire me at your restaurant, thanks.

[ooger]

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Engineering -- what is a social life

Right? I can't even justify getting upset or stressing about graal anymore now that real life commitments actually matter.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Koho out.

What kind of development work do you do?

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

What kind of development work do you do?

More than what you could ever do.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

More than what you could ever do.

You do realise that's Fiber the same dude that scripts, ganis, gfx's and LAT's right

[Scoper]

I kind of just assumed they gave him the token PR job so he would stop rampaging on the forums.
It did calm him down for like a week and a half.

The entire 'Im great for the job' rant sounds like you trying to bully and threaten your way into a position.
Don't do that

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Scoper

I kind of just assumed they gave him the token PR job so he would stop rampaging on the forums.
It did calm him down for like a week and a half.

The entire 'Im great for the job' rant sounds like you trying to bully and threaten your way into a position.
Don't do that

Rampaging on the forums? Giving ideas is rampaging? Trying to change era for the good is a crime? In what way do you benefit era on the forums by thinking your grammar police and being such a smartass 24/7? When in reality you are just some nerd who thinks hes better than everybody else.

Scoper seems to forget he was just a lossy ETA who thinks hes some sort of president. I don't even know why i reply to you, you're just some random kid who thinks he is somebody it's hilarious.

You offer zero to era and that's a fact. You have no need to comment. I'm a gang player who cares about gangs and it's the only reason i play. I posted up a lot of business ideas but yet you fail to comment on something you only play the game for but come on here and blast a gang player for wanting changes?

You my friend are a complete moro n. You know nothing.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

You do realise that's Fiber the same dude that scripts, ganis, gfx's and LAT's right

1. Fiber cannot script, he can edit some yes, but who couldn't?
2. He can GFX, whoopy do half of his GFX which i didn't like tbh and could do a better job if i am honest.
3. Lat? You kidding? I could do that blind folded.
4. Ganis? Again, basic stuff.

5. Fiber is useless, always will be. Hence why he always quit because he offered nothing and was a cry baby who didn't get his own way.

[Kohola_KinG]

Sorry for wanting to make positive changes in a game that you all play/played. I'm such the bad guy here for speaking out.

Clueless turds.

[ToreG]

Way to sabotage Ish's last thread, guys. Really mature.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by ToreG

Way to sabotage Ish's last thread, guys. Really mature.

Ish put up a thread stating his opinion. People have the right to state theirs. And it's a thread, not like Ish would care.

[ooger]

Koho why are you even around anymore? It's obvious that you're not having fun and the only pleasure you get here is when you can just berate someone into the ground or bully them into giving you something or admitting you're right. Calm the **** down and be constructive instead of being confrontational and maybe you'll get more **** done. You post ideas then when anyone has anything to say against them you rip them to pieces lol then you come here when Ish is saying goodbye and say "well ya u sucked and here's why i should be in charge because i'm better than all of u." just stop dude I have no idea why you even put in this much effort when I haven't seen you enjoy anything that comes of it.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by ooger

Koho why are you even around anymore? It's obvious that you're not having fun and the only pleasure you get here is when you can just berate someone into the ground or bully them into giving you something or admitting you're right. Calm the **** down and be constructive instead of being confrontational and maybe you'll get more **** done. You post ideas then when anyone has anything to say against them you rip them to pieces lol then you come here when Ish is saying goodbye and say "well ya u sucked and here's why i should be in charge because i'm better than all of u." just stop dude I have no idea why you even put in this much effort when I haven't seen you enjoy anything that comes of it.

I'm around because i can be. This is a forum and you ever heard of freedom of speach? Who are you to tell me what i can and cant say? Not to mention your 100 threads of *****iness. You're a hypocrite. You make a new account and all of a sudden your a changed guy? lols

I am also calm. It's called giving my opinion against his. This is a forum, that's what they're for. If you don't like it then maybe you should leave? I dont rip anybody to peices for disagreeing with any of my ideas. Not at all. I just debate things, maybe you're to sensitive?

Ish is family, he's a soul, i am a soul. Ish did a lot of good for era but i disagree with a lot he said in his post. I have every right to say my part.

Oh and you can go dig up and find something to quote against this, i know you will because you all jump on the band wagon when somebody is being targeted. You all attack staff when nothing is being changed. I've stood up for the players since the beginning of time trying to get stuff done. The moment i do that, you guys then jump on the people who are trying to get stuff done for people like YOU to try and make this game better.

You guys have no idea what you want.

[Lime_O_Matic]

Okay, so Ish quits and that's cool he has other stuff to do. He thanked everyone he worked with and all the players, but excludes ME! Whatever, I'll show you when I get the Nobel Peace Prize and DONT MENTION YOUR NAME. Not that I'm upset or anything because I'm not really going to miss you or cry myself to sleep sometimes.

[Tim_Rocks]

He didn't mention me either ish was honey-potting me the whole time.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by paintballdude956

Rogue,

hi

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Scoper seems to forget he was just a lossy ETA who thinks hes some sort of president. I don't even know why i reply to you, you're just some random kid who thinks he is somebody it's hilarious.

A wild triple-post appeared!
What will Roog do??

Scoper held a few different administrative positions in the past (Events [with dev/rc], House, PRguy) and did quite a bit; he was Housing admin for like 6-7 months.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

1. Fiber cannot script, he can edit some yes, but who couldn't?
2. He can GFX, whoopy do half of his GFX which i didn't like tbh and could do a better job if i am honest.
3. Lat? You kidding? I could do that blind folded.
4. Ganis? Again, basic stuff.

5. Fiber is useless, always will be. Hence why he always quit because he offered nothing and was a cry baby who didn't get his own way.

He can; albeit not very efficiently *wink. He made the bounty system we're using currently.
He's very good at the other development niches; I haven't seen anyone else pull off Animated gun skins yet.

Like, if you say so m8.. but I don't see you doing these things you claim.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Clueless turds.

There's a few different ways you could go about this. Fiber, Scoper, and Myself have all been in your current position before... though if you went through the archives of the forum you'd see we always presented tangibles with our words... and most importantly we went about it in a civilized manner.

Coming on here to talk trash and get nothing done is fine, TK rolls that way and brings some laughs along; but I don't think he ever expected anyone to take him seriously.

If you're trying to get taken seriously then act professional, and you have to do more than just say it.

"I have solid plans and motivation to change the gangs..."

Ok, where? You don't need an Administrator tag before you start improving this.

[Kohola_KinG]

I'm aware of what scoper had what has he achieved or contributed that makes him think hes so important? Jack....

Like, if you say so m8.. but I don't see you doing these things you claim.

Maybe because you need to be in the position to do the things i claimed. Are you this stupid? I wont do nothing for this server without a position. Are you kidding me. This is a problem with this server... they expect player to bend backwards to get the positions and work done but it should be the other way around. Staff are in desperate need of development and good thinking members but you're all stuck up your own holes and playing the politics game you are so blind to see it..

Coming on here to talk trash and get nothing done is fine, TK rolls that way and brings some laughs along; but I don't think he ever expected anyone to take him seriously.

Where am i talking trash? Never once have i talked trash. Giving my opinion is talking trash? Are you kidding me? Are you kids seriously this sensitive?

There's a few different ways you could go about this. Fiber, Scoper, and Myself have all been in your current position before... though if you went through the archives of the forum you'd see we always presented tangibles with our words... and most importantly we went about it in a civilized manner.

I'm not an ass licker. I will not be a pleaser to get my position rogue. Sorry i am not like you. I wont ass lick to get nothing. I was not raised that way.

I went about it in a civilzed manner, i applied several times with solid plans. You guys know nothing about professionalism and how to manage a server. I do it for a living. Usually you cannot have a conversation with you rogue without you acting 10 years of age but the moment you come on the forum you talk as if you're abraham lincoln. Cringy to see.

It's also rich coming from a guy who doesn't do NOTHING on era, just afk's on RC everyday and logs on every sunday to watch the gang events. Who are you to come on here and tell me what i am doing wrong.

You're a disgrace to the staff team. You do nothing but abuse, why dont you go get somebody to dig up the logs of you doing abusive stuff including to me. You're corrupt and always will be.

Hilarious when the useless/bad guys act the good guy. I have no reason to act professional anymore when you guys can and never did act professional. Complete joke that you'd even say that to me.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

More than what you could ever do.

Bold claim.

[BlueMelon]

I did not just read this whole thread..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtH4IfFgbck

[paintballdude956]

Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Okay, so Ish quits and that's cool he has other stuff to do. He thanked everyone he worked with and all the players, but excludes ME! Whatever, I'll show you when I get the Nobel Peace Prize and DONT MENTION YOUR NAME. Not that I'm upset or anything because I'm not really going to miss you or cry myself to sleep sometimes.

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

He didn't mention me either ish was honey-potting me the whole time.

Hi, I love you both. I just mentioned the people who always remembered to send me their "pic of the day" wink wink.
Naw jk I mentioned the people I worked with in development on a day-to-day basis. No hate intended boys (unlike the rest of this thread-- ouch this hurts to read and reminds me why I left)

[SharkeySprinkles]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

...This is a forum and you ever heard of freedom of speach?

I actually have not.