Business Update

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

This might not be 100% of the issue; but I'm sure a large majority of your drop-off in profits can be attributed to the dramatic decrease in players & PvP.

We were getting 110 peaks on the "most online" counter pretty consistently; gangs were producing tens of thousands of points (the average was like 20k+). Now we're getting peaks of like 85; or even 75~ on some days and the gangs currently are (on average) below 2k points.

So it stands to reason you'd make around 10% of the profit margin when gang activity is around 10% of what it was before. Since food products aren't used for anything else.

Probably also doesn't help that I've got 900 food items from Christmas, and I only gathered and opened about 120 presents and wasn't actively grabbing tree cookies every chance I got either. Although I did open the majority of the presents after the nerf to the loot table and it seemed like almost every single one was food.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

If your business was making that amount of money then why were you trying so hard to get changes. You got changes (not well thought out ones, i do agree) and now you're back to square one asking for more changes.

The changes he was asking for were because he was stocking the business himself. He wasn't asking for more profit, he was asking to pay his employees more so that it was worthwhile for them to actually stock instead of picking trash or mining for that same amount of time.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

A change you should maybe have considered was reducing the heals of ALL food items so more food items is required increasing the sales. If your business was making that amount of money, you could have increased the payout without increasing the food prices. You tried to keep that gap of profit and to have the ability of paying them higher wages. It doesn't work like that, you need to just raise your wages without raising your prices. You might lose a little money but happy staff and people wanting to work for you is very important.

If you lower the amount that food heals then I may as well just heal in beds. Most PKing nowdays happens in the gang bases, where there are beds readily available, so food needs to be either faster and/or more convenient to be worth anything at all. The fact that food freezes you for a substantial amount of time when players can spawn basically right on top of you at any time by using the sewer entry actually makes it pretty incovenient to eat mid-raid. So that only leaves food healing faster.

There should be a way to cancel eating.
Either that or change food to a heal over time (e.g. 5hp per 3 seconds for 18 seconds) and drastically reduce the freeze.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

The changes he was asking for were because he was stocking the business himself. He wasn't asking for more profit, he was asking to pay his employees more so that it was worthwhile for them to actually stock instead of picking trash or mining for that same amount of time.

Like i said. He could have made it worthwhile for them if his business was making 300k a week!? Why not just pay them a lot more you would have still been left over with nice profit. If you're making that amount of money then raise the wages and people will work for you. It's that simple.

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

If you lower the amount that food heals then I may as well just heal in beds. Most PKing nowdays happens in the gang bases, where there are beds readily available, so food needs to be either faster and/or more convenient to be worth anything at all. The fact that food freezes you for a substantial amount of time when players can spawn basically right on top of you at any time by using the sewer entry actually makes it pretty incovenient to eat mid-raid. So that only leaves food healing faster.

I was never a fan of healing beds anyways. I was always for removing them. Another positive for food businesses. If the beds are staying then just reduce the freeze time on the heals. They're healing less so it wouldn't matter.