The Era Problem

[Chorchizcool]

So the jist of this whole convo was

the majority do not want a reset, the most active players, the developers, and admins do not want a reset.

the minority does.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Chorchizcool

So the jist of this whole convo was

All I got was:
Gabriel didn't do **** when he had the chance to, and now he's trying to influence a form of control after we succeeded solely because he got out of our way.

The whole community (from froggy, to godzilla and beyond) came to the same conclusion on this thread, and I believe that's the first time ever; it's pretty simple honestly. All this discussion brought was more work and annoyance upon us active staff who have to deal with the player-base (because you were staff-massing it all night). Thanks for the 'help improving the server' m8.

[Kohola_KinG]

I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves. Is era excessively getting better? You have to seriously ask yourselves that question. Yes new content was added and it has increased activity however, does it ever last? No it doesn't.

We have all craved for a reset and the moment we get the opportunity we back away from it. Why? We have a chance for a fresh start, why not take it? We all know this wasn't a permanent fix! Do you think by giving people a lot of money and making a few changes by adding maps for gangs to fight in is worth more than having a reset and having the chance to put a lot of things right?

You're going to get so much more from a reset than doing what we are doing right now. With a reset we all get a fresh start.

- Raiding increases (It has to, people got kills and money to get)
- The trading market becomes a lot more interesting!!
- We will sustain a higher playercount for longer periods of time people need to stay online and work towards getting themselves back on their feet.
- Activity in events will triple because people need EC's. (This also gives us a chance to give EC items some value)
- Sparing increases.. People for sparing stats/all time champ/top 10 all time to work on
- It gives us a chance to make businesses NPC owned without upsetting any people!
- Making money systems will be used, we can introduce some new ones.
- Start adding some cool quests
- Gives everybody the chance to be on the same level to start and build their wealth

The list goes on!! And all of the above is what makes era!?

Also remember the most IMPORTANT thing here. These changes are tiptop for years the current alteration that you guys are now happy about only last weeks a month or two at the most. You see the scale here?

Resetting era has a lot more to offer than NOT resetting. I think a lot of people are scared of the word reset because they're now getting a lot of money from the recent changes and don't want to lose what they've never had before. I believe people are being selfish and do not want a reset because they will lose out on what they have rather on thinking what era will gain with a reset.

I have read through this thread and the reasons for not resetting just don't seem viable enough to me. You guys have entreat for a reset for years this is the perfect time to begin the progression. It looks like a step back to some people but this is two steps forward in my eyes. We have a "successful" manager so why not reset when we have good management and let's get the ball rolling here.

I am totally 110% for a reset. We have a massive opportunity here to do what we always wanted. We have a chance to increase everything that we all desire let's grab it while we have the chance.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

- Raiding increases (It has to, people got kills and money to get)
- The trading market becomes a lot more interesting!!
- We will sustain a higher playercount for longer periods of time people need to stay online and work towards getting themselves back on their feet.
- Activity in events will triple because people need EC's. (This also gives us a chance to give EC items some value)
- Sparing increases.. People for sparing stats/all time champ/top 10 all time to work on
- It gives us a chance to make businesses NPC owned without upsetting any people!
- Making money systems will be used, we can introduce some new ones.
- Start adding some cool quests

The list goes on!! And all of the above is what makes era!?

For how long though..? This isn't permanent either it's just another option; and the negatives outweigh the positive.. being that this is the only way we can effectively 'Kill' Era.

Will people really re-mine/pick/boquet their levels?
Will everyone try to get their HP levels back and deal with dying in 4 hits for an extended time? Or fighting the no-life guys who got navies when they login 2 weeks late?
The rich will stay rich; real-money potions will remain and the gap won't go away. It will only widen based on the activity of players and discourage those who can't dedicate 24/7 like they did years ago to earn their wealth.

Raiding will surely decrease until everyone achieves their current/relative level of wealth and items. I wouldn't raid until I had all my hot-keys filled; and that would never happen :c.
Event activity would behave similar to gang activity; most players can't dedicate the time... so their first X log-ins will be spent catching up.
We can make businesses NPC owned at any time; it takes the same amount of work with or without a owner present.
Trading will always be presistant; I honestly believe it would be reduced though because players won't have rares/special items/hats/etc. which are the main trading commodities. Guns are at a set price and their street-market is non-existant.
We can add quests now.
We're working on a new spar rating system now.

You gotta see both sides of the coin; our player base is finicky.

What I can agree with; and is the main point of a reset would be your last line:

- Gives everybody the chance to be on the same level to start and build their wealth

In theory -- yes, but I don't think it will. Already talked about potions/gelat items. But this isn't like a D2 ladder reset; we don't have every active player aware and able to login instantly and race toward the goal... it is sporadic/random activity and will ultimately result in the same issues we face now (unless we do a ton of huge updates prior, and I don't suppose You or Gabe would be creating them, but this still isn't guaranteed).

Overall; the idea is there... not denying that, I've advocated it in the past.
But the risk+work required doesn't equate to the reward when we're getting ~100 player count daily. It doesn't get much better than what we have now.

[Kohola_KinG]

Will people really re-mine/pick/boquet their levels?

Yes, they have to. Everything is up for grabs. If they don't they lose out and somebody else becomes more advanced than them.

Will everyone try to get their HP levels back and deal with dying in 4 hits for an extended time? Or fighting the no-life guys who got navies when they login 2 weeks late?

Yes. ^

Raiding will surely decrease until everyone achieves their current/relative level of wealth and items. I wouldn't raid until I had all my hot-keys filled; and that would never happen :c.

I disagree. I have started on era many times all over again with NOTHING. I worked my way back up many times and so has a lot of other people. Not to mention that i still don't have ever hotkey filled and i have the upgrade. All i have is one gun. Doesn't stop me raiding? Also without blowing my own trumpet i am very successful at it to.

Event activity would behave similar to gang activity; most players can't dedicate the time... so their first X log-ins will be spent catching up

So? At least the activity is still somewhere else on the server? people will be doing SOMETHING rather than sitting at unstick doing NOTHING.

~100 player count daily.

100 wouldn't be anywhere near the average of what we get on a daily basis. It would be around the 60-70 mark. We reach 100 the odd times but it never lasts NEVER.

I honestly believe a reset will increase eras activity than it currently is now. It gives us all something new to do, something to work on when we log on. We have OPTIONS of what we want to do the moment we log on. When you log on now we only have so many options. We got money, we got guns, we got everything. All we do is spar, event, raid log. You reset, that list expands.

@Booger, They will not quit though. They instantly think "i lose everything" "whats the point". The moment it resets and they see everybody in the same position it all starts to make sense. Era will become a goldmine, everything is up for grabs. All you have to do is go get it.

Everything becomes exciting, interesting.. It'll be like a whole new game.