~Gang Events Topic~

Zongui · #1 09-29-2014, 04:55 AM

Just a topic about gangs. Keeping track of some gang related stuff in this topic as well. Feel free to add info.

So, yesterday was the first Gang Events since Tim//Seth (I think) gave Era citizens the right to create their own gang for free.

There are currently 7 gangs: Terisu Family, Mercenary, Los Carteles, Cooper, Black Nation, Humboldt Haze, and Elite Faction. For week 1, I know for sure that Merc, TF, and LC participated in Gang Events. I know that EP (Merc) won two MVP coins and Corey (Terisu) won two MVP coins. I know that Terisu Family won Gang Wars. I dunno the rest (I'm just going by what I saw when I logged in), but feel free to add and/or correct me. I will actually log in before the start of next week's Gang Events to keep better track.

Week 1: Terisu Family won Gang Events (announced by Seth at the end of Gang Events).

Kohola_KinG · #2 10-02-2014, 11:30 PM

I guess nobody gives a **** about gangs. Stop wasting your time brah.

TheLinkMan2002 · #3 10-03-2014, 03:38 AM

our average player count is around 40. even on sunday we hit a max of seventy and 40 of them are just idlers. The gap between us and new players is so large that we'll never get them to stick around. This is really it, Era is on its last leg. it's honestly time to say goodbye. The only reason anyone logs on anymore is for late night spars when they are bored. If they ever release a true pc client for iera that would honestly be the only viable option for those of us that want to relive the past. Sucks that we'll all be poor though.

SharkeySprinkles · #4 10-03-2014, 11:44 AM

So I have an idea. Instead of constantly complaining that we (staff) are failing and doing nothing right, let's get some ideas on what we can do. I don't mean ideas like "Fire this person, hire me, blah blah." I mean, give me concrete ideas, plans, and we'll weigh all options and start working in the correct direction.

I already have ideas/plans that we're working on, most of which were already being worked on that you guys just don't see. We're going to continue with these plans, but we're always open to ideas.

Godzilla · #5 10-03-2014, 12:03 PM

Make everything cheaper.

Make jobs pay a lot more.

The higher-tier weapons can only be bought via ECs, MVP coins, other collateral than cash.

Guns like Desert Raven, Shipka, ACR, Tommy Gun, SG552 etc should all cost $500,000 from the store, you should be able to make $100,000 within 2 hours of working, regardless of the job.

If we don't start to cater to new players, the only ones left will be the kids that are bitter and don't want to see success in the game itself but success within themselves and they will quickly find themselves in a spiral of regret for complaining that this idea was ever brought up.

It takes one kid from iEra to tell his friends how much easier, how much funner and how much better you can become on PC Era than iEra for the kids to come flocking like birds.

Fiberwyre_P2P · #6 10-03-2014, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Make everything cheaper.

Make jobs pay a lot more.

The higher-tier weapons can only be bought via ECs, MVP coins, other collateral than cash.

Guns like Desert Raven, Shipka, ACR, Tommy Gun, SG552 etc should all cost $500,000 from the store, you should be able to make $100,000 within 2 hours of working, regardless of the job.

If we don't start to cater to new players, the only ones left will be the kids that are bitter and don't want to see success in the game itself but success within themselves and they will quickly find themselves in a spiral of regret for complaining that this idea was ever brought up.

It takes one kid from iEra to tell his friends how much easier, how much funner and how much better you can become on PC Era than iEra for the kids to come flocking like birds.

I agree wholeheartedly.
I actually did part of that when I was gun admin under Zach's Management when I made the most expensive guns (S6 and AUG) cost 600k and the prices all went down from there in a pretty linear fashion.
I would have made jobs pay a lot more if I could have, too.

Supaman771 · #7 10-04-2014, 06:20 AM

Just make like 10 different default sets of guns (main, side-arm, shotgun/specialty) and let people choose their set when they log-in. Have an armory where you can change.

Ex:
Marine Outfit - Mp5 Navy, Glock18, Spas-12
Futuristic Firearms - Tempest, Core Handgun, SD Cannon
Army Corps - AR-15, Mini SMG, Neo Rifle
Heavy Ordnance - Gatling Gun, PBP, RPG

Killing people gives you points; you can spend them to get bonus **** like Medpacks (revives), Melee weapons, Bombs, Food, Capps etc.
Events would stay the same; just more bonus **** like the typewriter and supers and instruments and w.e.
Gangs would stay the same.
HP Levels and Killstreaks are fine. Gang bonuses are fine.
Potions would stay the same, they could be bought either with gelats normally or mvp coins, nukes would also cost a mvp coin (this would be highest tier.. for the top players of the weeks + gang events). You'd only need a LW if you buy too much bonus ****.
Money/jobs could stay but would be only for aesthetic stuff like cars/houses/storage/gambling/hats.

**** trading.
**** shops.
**** ammo.
**** businesses.
**** quests.

Zone it up. I'd play everyday.

Inari · #8 10-04-2014, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Zone it up. I'd play everyday.

Sounds like a random online shooter rather than what I remember Era being.

Actually at that point it would probably be better to just makes a Server where there is a lobby and a system to choose gamemode/map and then you go fight on that map and return after. (Though thats what zone was in the past iirc, didn't check it out lately)

Godzilla · #9 10-04-2014, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Just make like 10 different default sets of guns (main, side-arm, shotgun/specialty) and let people choose their set when they log-in. Have an armory where you can change.

Ex:
Marine Outfit - Mp5 Navy, Glock18, Spas-12
Futuristic Firearms - Tempest, Core Handgun, SD Cannon
Army Corps - AR-15, Mini SMG, Neo Rifle
Heavy Ordnance - Gatling Gun, PBP, RPG

Killing people gives you points; you can spend them to get bonus **** like Medpacks (revives), Melee weapons, Bombs, Food, Capps etc.
Events would stay the same; just more bonus **** like the typewriter and supers and instruments and w.e.
Gangs would stay the same.
HP Levels and Killstreaks are fine. Gang bonuses are fine.
Potions would stay the same, they could be bought either with gelats normally or mvp coins, nukes would also cost a mvp coin (this would be highest tier.. for the top players of the weeks + gang events). You'd only need a LW if you buy too much bonus ****.
Money/jobs could stay but would be only for aesthetic stuff like cars/houses/storage/gambling/hats.

**** trading.
**** shops.
**** ammo.
**** businesses.
**** quests.

Zone it up. I'd play everyday.

I proposed the same idea a while ago.

I think the next step if we want to have any hope at all of surviving is to do what I stated above.

Supaman771 · #10 10-04-2014, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inari

Sounds like a random online shooter rather than what I remember Era being.

It's literally Era, minus the guns->money economy.

Zongui · #11 10-05-2014, 09:41 PM

Week 2: Mercenary won Gang Events.

Mercenary won Gang Wars, TDM, and TTS.
BN won KotH.
Harlot won TDM.

MVPs: Tonksta (BN), Ishmael x2 (Merc), Cyclone (Harlot), and paintballdude956 (Merc).

Harlot won best gang (most gang points) for this week.

Zongui · #12 10-12-2014, 10:05 PM

Week 3: Otaku won Gang Events.

MVPs: 2Pac x2 (Otaku), Jesse B. (Lethal Securities), Inkus Stinkus (Otaku), EP Divine (Booty Warriors), and Park Heights (Terisu Family).

Terisu Family won Gang Wars (heard it was an upset. Park Heights was MVP).

Frankie · #13 10-19-2014, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla

I proposed the same idea a while ago.

I think the next step if we want to have any hope at all of surviving is to do what I stated above.

I proposed to get rid of the economy 5+ years ago back when Daz was manager. everyone thought I was ****ing crazy because back then, one of the primary focuses of administrations were to fix the economy. every time someone new took over they always had some magic plan to "fix the economy", and I called out on it a long time ago that the economy could never be stabilized, there will always be flaws, people will have advantages, and it would do nothing but go downhill. sure enough, that's what happened.

now days it seems like everyone's focus is to try and fix the gangs, and I believe there's a bigger picture to a bigger problem that's being ignored. the game itself is extremely stale. new players aren't drawn to the server because of how impossible it is to compete against players that have been building up their inventories for years and years. you're trying to force a small group of players into gang activity that have been participating in the same damn thing over and over for the past few years. it's just not going to work..

era needs some fresh faces, and there's a ridiculous amount of potential to pull player count from the mobile/facebook servers. pc era isn't exciting though. it's a mundane grind fest to anyone looking in from the iservers. getting rid of the economy is the only thing left that could help spark the enjoyment of this server again. new players will come in, everyone will be on a more equal playing field, skill will be the ultimate factor in success over riches, it would be fun.

Supaman771 · #14 10-19-2014, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

getting rid of the economy is the only thing left that could help spark the enjoyment of this server again. new players will come in, everyone will be on a more equal playing field, skill will be the ultimate factor in success over riches, it would be fun.

Zone it up!

Eclipse · #15 10-19-2014, 12:26 PM

era is dead... its not 2005 and were not 14 years old get the **** over it it wont be the same

Inari · #16 10-19-2014, 01:15 PM

Make either pre-defined or buildable gang-bases, give gangs advantages for having a bigger base. Always able to raid a base but can't capture or permanently damage it unless its one of the set times for gang war?
Kinda like WoE in Ragnarok I guess... xD

Zongui · #17 10-19-2014, 08:41 PM

Week 4: Lethal Securities won Gang Events.

MVP's:
Storm_P2P2 (LS)
Skyler10 (LS)
Johnstone15 (Otaku)
EP Divine (Trill Family)

Trill Family won Gang Wars. EP Divine won the new katana.

Frankie · #18 10-20-2014, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipse

era is dead... its not 2005 and were not 14 years old get the **** over it it wont be the same

you're right. it won't be the same to people who have been playing for years and years. it's extremely difficult to entertain a group of players who have been doing the same damn thing over and over for 5 - 10+ years. which is why era needs a big change in how the game is played and needs new players.

Cubical · #19 10-20-2014, 10:22 AM

classic styled era inc at lm

Zongui · #20 10-26-2014, 09:15 PM

Week 4: The 15 won Gang Events

MVPs:
SM (The 15)
Skyler (The 15)
Corey Braveheart (The 15)
SM (The 15)
Corey Braveheart (The 15)
SM (The 15)

The 15 Sweep. I don't think Gang Wars was hosted. There was some Gang drama with the Trill Family, so Gang Events ended earlier than expected or something.

Update about Gangs from GA:

Swift_Rocks (Gang Admin) (Sun Oct 26 16:24:27 2014):
Mass message:
Due to mass amounts of gang applications coming in each week, and everybody wanting their own gang, creating a gang is no longer 100% open for anyone to do.

In order to create a gang you must have 1,000 gang points in your inventory.

Creating a gang will NOT cost you these points, but only act as a requirement.

Godzilla · #21 10-26-2014, 10:36 PM

Events were hosted poorly this week.

The 15 were given without a doubt a bit of favoritism from swift, we (TriLL Family) refuse to play in events that are biased.

Demisis_P2P · #22 10-27-2014, 08:07 AM

Gang events are stupid anyway.
If you need mini-games inside of a game you're doing something wrong.

Work the fun/favourable aspects of gang events into the actual gang system or even just the server in general and PKing as a whole could be improved and you'd never need to host gang events again.

Fiberwyre_P2P · #23 10-27-2014, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Gang events are stupid anyway.
If you need mini-games inside of a game you're doing something wrong.

Work the fun/favourable aspects of gang events into the actual gang system or even just the server in general and PKing as a whole could be improved and you'd never need to host gang events again.

So, in your opinion, pretty much every graal server has been doing it wrong from the beginning, since pretty much all of them have had events?

Good_Ol_Daze · #24 10-27-2014, 09:08 PM

Most servers have events that are substantially different from the server's actual gameplay.

Era's events are almost all just doing things that people should be doing in the wild: raiding, sparring, etc.

edit: He even specifically said "gang events" what are you doing dude

Fiberwyre_P2P · #25 10-28-2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Good_Ol_Daze

Most servers have events that are substantially different from the server's actual gameplay.

Era's events are almost all just doing things that people should be doing in the wild: raiding, sparring, etc.

edit: He even specifically said "gang events" what are you doing dude

I know he's specifically talking about gang events, but the statement "If you need mini-games inside of a game you're doing something wrong." is pretty general.

Good_Ol_Daze · #26 10-28-2014, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

the statement "If you need mini-games inside of a game you're doing something wrong." is pretty general.

Right, if you ignore the context his first sentence gives it.

Zongui · #27 11-02-2014, 10:46 PM

Week 6: The 15 won Gang Events (I think).

MVPs:
Bloodwork (The 15)
SM (The 15) - (Raid Gang Event where only SM won. His gang didn't get anything from it I think).
Godzilla (Trill Family)
Fuubaz (The 15)

This week felt kind of unorganized/weird, so I dunno much about what happened. I just know that those guys won MVPs. I don't even know if Gang Wars was hosted.

Godzilla · #28 11-03-2014, 12:41 AM

*insert useless cry*

Edit; Yeah, Staff Rented weapons should be disabled in all PK Events, I think that could allow you to unban the AA12 from Events.

Tim_Rocks · #29 11-03-2014, 12:56 AM

Staff should not be using the rental system unless it's to test a gun. If that's the case though, then I've disabled it to be safe.

BrentWood · #30 11-03-2014, 12:14 PM

No moar abuse for me?!

Zongui · #31 11-09-2014, 12:28 AM

mini gang events was hosted tonight.

MVPs:
Godzilla (TF)
Rams (LC)
GodZilla (TF)

Zongui · #32 11-10-2014, 12:52 AM

Week 7: Dunno who won

MVPs:
Skyler (The 15)
Storm_P2P (Sir Family)
Jesse B. (The 15)
Godzilla (TF)
Bloodwork (The 15)
Bloodwork (The 15)
GodZilla (TF)

TF won Gang Wars.

Godzilla · #33 11-10-2014, 01:24 AM

I got 3 MVPs this week and won Gang Wars for us (TriLL Family)

I would say over all The 15 took it this week

Zongui · #34 11-10-2014, 05:35 AM

I wasn't sure if I should be adding people that have won MVPs, without their gang winning coins. Like Bloodwork for example, who is listed twice on my list. Her gang didn't get coins in any of her wins, so I assumed that they weren't Gang Events. Maybe they did get coins, but I missed it. From now on I will just add anyone that wins MVP during the Gang Events period. I just idle and look at the messages at the bottom right corner of the game. If I see that a gang gets coins, followed by someone from that gang getting an MVP, then I know for sure that it was a Gang Event..

Anyways, I think I'm going to get involved now that you can get $150 per gang point. And the info about gang points when you press "=" has been fixed. Nice update.

Godzilla · #35 11-12-2014, 02:30 AM

mini events were hosted again; i got 2 mvps, some other kids got some mvps

Zongui · #36 11-16-2014, 11:06 PM

Week 8: Fantasy Football won Gang Events.

MVPs:
Corey (Fantasy Football) - KoTH
Rogue (Purrrfection) - Gang FFA
Corey (Fantasy Football) - TDM
Ooger (Sir Family) - TDM
Wil (Purrrfection) - Raid Simulator
Bloodwork (Fantasy Football) - Raid Simulator
Skyler (Fantasy Football) - Raid Simulator
SM (Fantasy Football) - CTF
Wil (Purrrfection) - Gang Wars

Raid Simulator wasn't part of Gang Events, so I didn't count them in my tally (winning gang didn't get any coins, just the top 3 players). Though Rogue won the Gang FFA, his gang didn't get any ECs (so I dunno if that should be counted as a Gang Event).

Purrrfection won Gang Wars.

Fantasy Football had the most gang points for this week.

Supaman771 · #37 11-17-2014, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zongui

Week 8: Fantasy Football won Gang Events.

MVPs:
Corey (Fantasy Football) - KoTH
Rogue (Purrrfection) - Gang FFA
Corey (Fantasy Football) - TDM
Ooger (Sir Family) - TDM
Wil (Purrrfection) - Raid Simulator
Bloodwork (Fantasy Football) - Raid Simulator
Skyler (Fantasy Football) - Raid Simulator
SM (Fantasy Football) - CTF
Wil (Purrrfection) - Gang Wars

Raid Simulator wasn't part of Gang Events, so I didn't count them in my tally (winning gang didn't get any coins, just the top 3 players). Though Rogue won the Gang FFA, his gang didn't get any ECs (so I dunno if that should be counted as a Gang Event).

Purrrfection won Gang Wars.

Fantasy Football had the most gang points for this week.

Yay! Week 1 of Purrrfection on the board. I kinda feel like it was an overall tie though.
We won 3 events; they won 3 events.

But we never got to play CTF which is kinda silly; they got a whole extra event played over us. Otherwise it would've been 3 to 2.

Purrrf is now leading the pack to open this week; watch out for the sweep boys!

Zongui · #38 11-21-2014, 08:31 PM

I'm taking a break from Era. Feel free to post.