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Old 07-18-2014, 06:00 PM
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I shell to make money on Era, this the math for shelling.

200 tnt = 24k
It takes roughly 2 and a half hours to shell 200 tnt.
4k cost for tnt
2.6k cost for workers potions.
profit 18.6k (roughly)
So that would be about 7.5k~ an hour extra... which would make digging the best job on Era by a mile (about 20k an hour) since it requires no leveling and is honestly the easiest job to macro/bot.

GGwp more shitty no-thought content by Zach!.
THA short LIST (of said content):
-SR Stands... enabled duping, had to be completely recoded.
-Unlimited Ammo... unanimously voted into deletion by competent management.
-Individual 200k guns for ammo shops that gave 100% profit... oh god remember this?
-No-Pk auto-healing... in process of being removed.
-Shell TNT... which is actually pretty alright I guess. edit

That's... about it, 6-8 hours of broken content in 2 whole years.
'Oy Vey... he still has a RC.

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Old 07-18-2014, 06:09 PM
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-Individual 200k guns for ammo shops that gave 100% profit... oh god remember this?
When was this? When I started playing again 3-4 years ago? The shops had 200k guns, but the shops only got 20k$, then they were removed a while ago when the pawn shop came out I think?
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:17 PM
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So that would be about 7.5k~ an hour extra... which would make digging the best job on Era by a mile (about 20k an hour) since it requires no leveling and is honestly the easiest job to macro/bot.

GGwp more shitty no-thought content by Zach!.
THA short LIST (of said content):
-SR Stands... enabled duping, had to be completely recoded.
-Unlimited Ammo... unanimously voted into deletion by competent management.
-Individual 200k guns for ammo shops that gave 100% profit... oh god remember this?
-No-Pk auto-healing... in process of being removed.
-Shell TNT... which I now have to spend a couple of hours balancing.

That's... about it, 6-8 hours of broken content in 2 whole years.
'Oy Vey... he still has a RC.

My disdain is matched only by the amount of periods I just typed.
you do not make 20k an hour digging shells with TNT rofl

it takes 2.5 hours of digging shells to make 20k.

i dont see your math adding up.

4k for 200 tnt, 2600 dollars for workers potion thats 6600 dollars investment.

in 2.5 hours you dig 200 tnt, earning you a profit of 19,000.

Where are you getting this magical 12k an hour of digging shells from?

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Old 07-18-2014, 06:40 PM
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you do not make 20k an hour digging shells with TNT rofl

it takes 2.5 hours of digging shells to make 20k.

i dont see your math adding up.

4k for 200 tnt, 2600 dollars for workers potion thats 6600 dollars investment.

in 2.5 hours you dig 200 tnt, earning you a profit of 19,000.

Where are you getting this magical 12k an hour of digging shells from?
You stated that using 200 tnt will give you 24k in 2.5 hours without including normal shells, take off the 7k~ for tnt/worker and that's 7.5k an hour. Added to my original amount gives 20k. I will re-math everything to check.

**At this point I check the shovel script again to realize there are multiple versions of digging, and I used the wrong freeze-time (.7) which will be corrected now (1)!

Normal shelling:
The shovel has a freeze/digtime of 1 second when the weapon is used.
So you can dig max. 3600 times per hour.
At a rate of 60% shellage (using workers potion) per dig, that's ~2160 shells.
The average rate per shell is $4 (3+4+4+5/4).
$8,640 an hour, ignoring any instance of Shell Clusters.

Just checking now, shell clusters appear at a 5% rate with a potion on. This rate is separate from regular shells, and thus it won't interfere with my previous amount/rate. That gives 108 clusters an hour (which matches your analysis.. sorta).
Clusters are random at 10-20 shells per. Which is an average of $60 a cluster (15*4).
This would tack on $6,480 an hour bringing your new hourly total to:
$15,120 - $2,160 for TNT. Which is fairly reasonable, thanks for helping or I wouldn't have realized I used a wrong variable.

Edit: Shell TNT now $15 like mining TNT. Woo Job Balance!!!
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:24 PM
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Normal shelling:
The shovel has a freeze/digtime of 1 second when the weapon is used.
So you can dig max. 3600 times per hour.
At a rate of 60% shellage (using workers potion) per dig, that's ~2160 shells.
The average rate per shell is $4 (3+4+4+5/4).
$8,640 an hour, ignoring any instance of Shell Clusters.

Just checking now, shell clusters appear at a 5% rate with a potion on. This rate is separate from regular shells, and thus it won't interfere with my previous amount/rate. That gives 108 clusters an hour (which matches your analysis.. sorta).
Clusters are random at 10-20 shells per. Which is an average of $60 a cluster (15*4).
This would tack on $6,480 an hour bringing your new hourly total to:
$15,120 - $2,160 for TNT
. Which is fairly reasonable, thanks for helping or I wouldn't have realized I used a wrong variable.

Edit: Shell TNT now $15 like mining TNT. Woo Job Balance!!!
Right there in bold.
According to Rogue's calculations, shell clusters increase your $/hr by exactly 75%
And by my calculations, it'll account for 48% of your total profit (6480 / (15120 - 1620) = .48) (the 1620 = $15 * 108tnt)
So unless you're spending 48% of your time picking up shells from shell clusters, it's a gain, not a loss.

Not having timed myself digging to see which percent of my time goes to picking up cluster shells, I'd say, subjectively, it feels like maybe 20-25% of the time.
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